Re: [time-nuts] Distributiuon Amlifier Altinex DA1804NT

2015-05-29 Thread Vlad
Bob, You are correct. I am using HP 5386A. And its only HP counter I have. I set Gate time equal to 10sec. May be this gate time is an issue ? The other settings is .1s, and 1s. Meantime, I did switch ref signal source from Trimble TB to Oscilloquarz 8663-SX OCXO and connected MV89A to

Re: [time-nuts] Distributiuon Amlifier Altinex DA1804NT

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi *IF* I’m understanding you correctly, you are measuring this data with an HP 5386. That’s only a 4 ns counter. I agree with Tom that there is something weird in your setup, but that still does not help the basic limit of the counter’s resolution. You will need to be out around 1,000

Re: [time-nuts] Distributiuon Amlifier Altinex DA1804NT

2015-05-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 28 May 2015 23:21:31 -0400 Vlad t...@patoka.org wrote: You are correct. I am using HP 5386A. And its only HP counter I have. I set Gate time equal to 10sec. May be this gate time is an issue ? The other settings is .1s, and 1s. Meantime, I did switch ref signal source from Trimble

Re: [time-nuts] AGC or manual attenuator

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi You *could* do other things. Some form of switched attenuator is still the best bet. Bob On May 29, 2015, at 10:09 AM, xaos x...@darksmile.net wrote: Hello everyone, In the past there have been several posts about amplifier input and AGC. As many have pointed out this is always a

Re: [time-nuts] AGC or manual attenuator

2015-05-29 Thread paul swed
Absolutely a good answer. You could mess with lots of things. But the fact is they are pretty much a mess. You have to linearize and right size etc. So why mess with a great answer? Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:09 AM, xaos x...@darksmile.net wrote: Hello everyone, In the

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Thees units were made for the phone company, and phone companies are big on hot-swapping modules. The shorter pins are shortened to make sure that their circuit doesn't make contact until the longer pins have made contact. Don't fix them! -Chuck Harris billriches wrote: Hi Ulli, I heard

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread billriches
Hi Ulli, I heard some comments that the short jumper cable between the two units would make an intermittent connection. You will notice that some of the pins in the connector are shorter than the others and hopefully that is the problem. I don't know if the plugs are wired 1 to 1, 2 to 2 and so

[time-nuts] How Microsoft cloud services will handle leapseconds...

2015-05-29 Thread Mark Sims
Sounds like very poorly to me... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/29/windows_azure_second_out_of_sync/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Distributiuon Amlifier Altinex DA1804NT

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think that looks about as good as your counter can do. The slope down at the start is the resolution of the counter. The slope up on the right is the actual stability of the oscillator. Bob On May 29, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Vlad t...@patoka.org wrote: Hello, I've finished the test.

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, when the interconnect cable goes out, the boxes simply do not boot up or they boot to some strange pattern of LED’s. I have not seen the 15 pin cable impact the number of sat’s. It certainly *could* do so if the serial interconnect pin is messed up on either end. I’d try another

Re: [time-nuts] MTI 260 Oscillator question.

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The traditional approach was to seal the unit up at the base. You then baked it out (possibly at 125C) for some period of time (maybe 24 to 48 hours). After that you sealed off the magic hole in the package. In some cases there was indeed a magic pot under the solder hole that was used to

Re: [time-nuts] Manuals heading for the dumpster

2015-05-29 Thread Didier Juges
I think the main contributor to the death of their business is that new equipment comes with usually worthless manuals, and even for those who have somewhat better manuals, the instruments are still not repairable by the amateurs. I realize that free sites (like mine) probably did not help,

Re: [time-nuts] MTI 260 Oscillator question.

2015-05-29 Thread Dan Rae
On 5/29/2015 11:53 AM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that there is a soldered area on the top of the module that appears to be covering a hole. Has anyone taken one of these apart, and if so is there a trim cap or pot under this hole to allow adjustment??? Corby, it looks more like

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread Mod Mix
Wall, again some hours later at least the LED show the normal picture. Though, Ulrich's program is still showing no more than two satellites. Do I have to be more patient? Ulli Am 20.05.2015 um 20:59 schrieb Mod Mix: Hi, my KS-24361 REF 1 / REF 0 combo was running nicely for many weeks. To

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Tom Van Baak
I'm coming to time-nuts because I remember that at least one member had a very large number of adapters on one computer, so I'm hoping to find some help. I don't generally seem to have trouble with other USB devices, just the serial adapters. Cash, True, it's somewhat off-topic but a lot of

Re: [time-nuts] Manuals heading for the dumpster

2015-05-29 Thread DaveH
Have they talked with archive.org? These people have all kinds of scanners and are putting some amazing things online. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Muir Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 09:01 To: time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread bownes
Typically the pins are two or three lengths. The longest pins are ground, the next are power, then signal pins. Quite often used for things that are hot swapped. Take a look at a USB cable for example. On May 29, 2015, at 19:01, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Thees units were

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Brent Gordon
Lately, I've been seeing blue screens that I think are caused by my serial-USB adapters. Because I haven't updated by serial drivers since before the driver update fiasco a while back, my feeling is that this was caused by some other update. Regarding the COM ports, here is a article on how

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I’m not sure I can be of much help. I typically run several dozen serial ports on various machines without much trouble at all. They *all*: 1) Are under XP or Win-7 (no Vista) 2) Run FTDI drivers and nothing else 3) Get the drivers straight from FTDI My case is so far off from your case

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 29 May 2015 13:17:40 -0600 Cash Olsen radio.kd5...@gmail.com wrote: I have been plagued with hard crashes of the computer when plugging in and unplugging USB devices. I have generally determined that some of the USB to serial devices are the worst offenders. I am also suspicious of

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread W2HX
I would avoid vista like the plaque! Windows 7 is much more reliable. I am willing to bet your USB problems are because of vista.   73 Eugene W2HX   -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Cash Olsen Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:18 PM To:

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Vlad
If its really number of USB devices, directly connected to the PC, then it could be issue with overload of 5V bus on USB hub. It has certain limitation. As a workaround, you could try to use external USB hub with its own PSU. -- WBW, V.P. On 2015-05-29 15:17, Cash Olsen wrote: I have been

Re: [time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 29.05.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Cash Olsen: I have been plagued with hard crashes of the computer when plugging in and unplugging USB devices. I have generally determined that some of the USB to serial devices are the worst offenders. I am also suspicious of some of the hubs. I wander if even the

[time-nuts] KS-24361 NO GPS - again

2015-05-29 Thread Mod Mix
Hi, my KS-24361 REF 1 / REF 0 combo was running nicely for many weeks. To check a newly received REF 0 it was connected instead of the nicely runnning one. Did almost fine - except: NO GPS stayed solid on for about an hour. At leat, i saw 1 or 2 satellites from time to time. When I put back the

[time-nuts] USB problems and solutions - Some what Off Topic

2015-05-29 Thread Cash Olsen
I have been plagued with hard crashes of the computer when plugging in and unplugging USB devices. I have generally determined that some of the USB to serial devices are the worst offenders. I am also suspicious of some of the hubs. I wander if even the operating system is partly to blame. I'm

[time-nuts] Manuals heading for the dumpster

2015-05-29 Thread Gregory Muir
To all, Am not sure if any news of this has been posted in prior times or not but will pass it along just in case. Manuals Plus (http://www.manualsplus.com/) will be closing its doors the middle of June. The proliferation of available PDF documents available plus the increasing number of

[time-nuts] AGC or manual attenuator

2015-05-29 Thread xaos
Hello everyone, In the past there have been several posts about amplifier input and AGC. As many have pointed out this is always a bad idea since the AGC circuit tends to add phase noise, etc. So my question today is: Is this still true? My old Panoramic spectrum analyzer (yeah, she's a

[time-nuts] MTI 260 Oscillator question.

2015-05-29 Thread cdelect
Hi, I've noticed that there is a soldered area on the top of the module that appears to be covering a hole. Has anyone taken one of these apart, and if so is there a trim cap or pot under this hole to allow adjustment??? Thanks, Corby Dawson ___

Re: [time-nuts] Distributiuon Amlifier Altinex DA1804NT

2015-05-29 Thread Vlad
Hello, I've finished the test. Here is the links to charts: http://www.patoka.ca/OCXO/OCXO-8663ref-MV89A-AD.png http://www.patoka.ca/OCXO/OCXO-8663ref-MV89A-PD.png http://www.patoka.ca/OCXO/OCXO-8663ref-MV89A.png It looks different, but its not better, I think. Regards, Vlad On 2015-05-28