Re: [time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-03 Thread Bryan _
GPS Monitor can be downloaded from my one drive account. Two files, not sure which is which though as they are both GPS monitor. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmMj2HdT5zCUhLckfpNYGebG0Js-bw -=Bryan=- From: time-nuts on behalf of James

Re: [time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I have a nasty suspicion that the “GPSMon" Zyfer is talking about is not the same program that is part of the Linux package. It’s a fairly obvious name. I’d bet it got re-used a couple of times. The docs on gpsd refer to it’s own tangled history in this regard. It’s certainly worth trying.

[time-nuts] Zyfer Nanosync 380

2017-05-03 Thread Mark Sims
I got in my Zyfer Nanosync 380 GPSDO off of Ebay and have it working with Lady Heather. The documentation the Ed found is fairly decent. The 700+ lines of code I added to Heather worked the first time (damn, I'm good ;-) ) It is a small (< 4x4x1") GPSDO that runs off of 12V (< 1A). It was

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPS Receiver

2017-05-03 Thread Mark Sims
I also sent email to all the people in the Packrat slides. One email bounced and I have not heard back from the other 2. So far, I have had no luck finding any info on these devices. -- > I've got an e-mail into the authors of the Packrat GPS Receiver Project > slides asking

Re: [time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-03 Thread Chris Albertson
gpsmon is part of the gpsd package. http://www.catb.org/gpsd/ But you can try simply connecting the serial data to a terminal window and reading what comes out. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:40 PM, James Robbins wrote: > Has anyone gotten an FEI-Zyfer 380 to talk to a

[time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-03 Thread James Robbins
Has anyone gotten an FEI-Zyfer 380 to talk to a control program? Can't seem to get it to talk to GPSCon or TAC32. Supposedly, it wants a program called "GPSMon" but I do not find the program with Google. Jim Robbins N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition GPS Receiver

2017-05-03 Thread Ben Hall
On 5/1/2017 4:35 PM, Gregory Beat wrote: Interesting surplus GPS receiver / 10 MHz item on eBay Lots of parts :-) Hi Gregory, Thanks for the links! I've got one of each on the way to me. I've got an e-mail into the authors of the

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Bob, OK, I think I see my error.  I need to create a file of the successive phase differences in the timelab capture, right?  I haven't done this before, so... Bob - AE6RV.com GFS GPSDO list:

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you convert the data to +/- 50 ns, you will have a problem at the edges. Much easier to deal with unwrapped data. The same CSV approach works for taking the pps data from a module, logging the sawtooth info and combining them. There’s no practical way to get the “real” RMS of the

[time-nuts] 5370 problems, was Re: Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Tom et al, It looks like I've got a problem with my 5370 when collecting 10MHz data using an external arming signal.  I did some tests today, sending 10MHz through a ~10ft delay line (about 8.26ns) between the START and STOP inputs.  It's a mess, with some interval deltas being as high as 13

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Bob, Won't I have a problem with the phase wrap unless I convert the data to a range of +50ns to -50ns?  Or am I still looking at this incorrectly?  Bob - AE6RV.com GFS GPSDO list: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/GFS-GPSDOs/info

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, RMS is really a standard deviation estimation in classical context. This type of deviation estimation is however not useful for the types of noises we have, so that is why we needed a more powerful tool, and we ended up with the Allan Deviation in its place. Just as with RMS being the

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Dump it to a csv file and do it in Excel would be one way. You want to be able to control the process a bit so that would give you the ability to tweak the measurement. Bob > On May 3, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Bob Stewart wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > What I should have asked is

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Bob, What I should have asked is this: "how do I get that from a Timelab dataset?"    Bob From: Bob kb8tq To: Bob Stewart ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Tom Van Baak Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR GPS kit end plate - final call

2017-05-03 Thread Steve - Home
Right now the numbers are up substantially and I've asked P-M to hold off until later today before giving me a final quote. Steve WB0DBS > On May 2, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > Right now you are at 26 plates. There may be a price break at 25 there might >

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi RMS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_mean_square When we talk about things like “6 sigma” in QA, the sigma is the RMS. Bob > On May 3, 2017, at 1:44 AM, Bob Stewart wrote: > > Hi Tom, > Could you clarify the term RMS?

Re: [time-nuts] Three-cornered hat on timelab?

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Tom, Could you clarify the term RMS?  Is there some sort of calculation I need to do on the raw data to get the RMS value? I'm going to begin by doing a fresh 8 hour test of GPSDO Unit 1 vs GPSDO Unit 2, with the same conditions as the tests involving the PRS.  IOW, the 5370 is being clocked