Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread Chris Howard
Maybe not exactly, but I use an app on an old Android cell phone as my UTC wall clock. Large characters in horizontal mode; NTP via WiFi. ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On Jun 14, 2018, 20:15, at 20:15, David Andersen wrote: >I'd hoped that ebay or aliexpress would yield a bounty given how

Re: [time-nuts] Einstein Special on PBS

2015-11-29 Thread Chris Howard
The mountain thing has been done. Someone needs to take their clock to the bottom of the deepest mine (2.4 miles). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] Racal Dana 1992 universal counter

2015-01-22 Thread Chris Howard
I have used the Prologix USB GPIB device with mine. On 1/22/2015 6:14 AM, christophena...@virgilio.it wrote: Hello everybody, i am looking for an interface pc card for a Racal-Dana Model 1992 Nanosecond Universal Counter Timer 1.3 GHz.Please could someone give me some suggestions about a

Re: [time-nuts] Sun Outage

2014-10-09 Thread Chris Howard
If you had an exact timing for the outage, would that have told you the beam-width of your antenna? -- project for next spring :-) On 10/9/2014 1:04 PM, Mike Feher wrote: Bob - I do not believe it has any effect. The DirecTV satellites are geostationary at about 22K miles. I used to

Re: [time-nuts] Crude Survey Technique

2013-11-21 Thread Chris Howard
Southward (toward equator) deflection would actually improve the geometry. All non-north vectors would be lengthened in proportion. On 11/21/2013 6:37 PM, Bill Beam wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:28:32 -0800, Chris Albertson wrote: If you need a very tall pole that is 100% vertical then

[time-nuts] systron donner 6153 corpse picking

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Howard
I have a Systron Donner 6153 counter which has burnt out diodes on the fast channel. The display board has a big edge connector which looks like it accesses all of the nixie and power lines. I am going to disassemble to make a nixie clock. I may saw the display board in half in order to trim it

Re: [time-nuts] DIY GPS antenna...

2013-09-29 Thread Chris Howard
There was a GPS antenna project in QST OCT 2006. (but I never built one) BTW: if you want to build your own GPS antenna, the easiest designs are ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] hp 05328-60018 board for free mostly

2013-08-28 Thread Chris Howard
You all talking about putting oscillators into counters... I took the oscillator out of a derelict 5328A and used it in my GPSDO. I have the little adapter board, part # 05328-60018 which I will send to anyone who wants it and will pay the shipping. Chris w0ep

Re: [time-nuts] hp 05328-60018 board for free mostly

2013-08-28 Thread Chris Howard
Item has been claimed. Chris Howard ch...@elfpen.com wrote: You all talking about putting oscillators into counters... I took the oscillator out of a derelict 5328A and used it in my GPSDO. I have the little adapter board, part # 05328-60018 which I will send to anyone who wants

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 update

2013-07-25 Thread Chris Howard
On 7/25/2013 8:32 PM, paul swed wrote: Well lucks not so good do have the voltage closer but as Bob C said. That ain't the issue. this may is a dumb question: Lower than expected frequency means some extra capacitance in parallel or not enough in series with the crystal... ? Would that put

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - Does it work?

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Howard
On 7/15/2013 10:09 AM, Bob Stewart wrote: In this case, I was using the 10MHz output from the GPSDO as the reference and measuring the 5MHz output from the GPSDO. So, even if the GPSDO is off in frequency, the relationship between the 10MHz reference and the 5MHz signal are mathematically

Re: [time-nuts] GPDSO is working

2013-07-12 Thread Chris Howard
what you are using for the F, M, and S parameters. What kind of receiver are you driving yours with, and do you have it in position hold mode? Bob From: Chris Howard ch...@elfpen.com To: Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6

Re: [time-nuts] Beaglebone NTP server

2013-06-19 Thread Chris Howard
On 6/19/2013 1:52 PM, Gabs Ricalde wrote: Are you using the original BeagleBone or the new BeagleBone Black? Will you have any details available about what parts are needed to set it up? Thanks! Chris Howard ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] New to list and GPSDO questions

2013-06-14 Thread Chris Howard
I like that explanation. I think I get it. I don't think it is likely to cause me any worry. My actual measurement of ADEV on my VE2ZAZ device gave me a 100,000s sigma of just under 1E-10 and that works for me (best is at 1000s, 4E-11). Maybe the strength and the danger of the VE2ZAZ design

Re: [time-nuts] Fw: New to list and GPSDO questions

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Howard
I'm with Bob in that I don't really understand this description. And what are we trying to be in phase with? the 1PPS? Is it possible to reproduce the actual phase of the clock in the GPS birds once it has been through my GPS and come out as 1PPS? I picture the EFC steering the car straight

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera thanks options

2013-04-15 Thread Chris Howard
The online obit at http://www.santafefuneraloption.com/sitemaker/sites/santaf0/obit.cgi?user=949646Shera says, Memorials may be made to the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, the Sierra Club, or any organization of the Donor’s choice. University of Chicago Laboratory Schools

Re: [time-nuts] Releasing sources

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Howard
My very-limited experience in releasing code was being very excited when I heard from someone that they had found a bug. That's the only communication I've ever received. It's hard to know whether to be happy (no bugs!) or sad (no users!). Chris Howard

Re: [time-nuts] Found at a surplus store

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Howard
Looks like an @ROAD iLM2700 http://www.smb.road.com/corp/shared/pdf/SpecSheet_iLm2700_25Oct06.pdf On 3/5/2013 9:57 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: I did not get any, I will see if any are still there and get them, once I do I'll let the list know how many etc. and send what there is out at

[time-nuts] cesium for sale - you know where

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Howard
I've decided to list my FTS-4060 on ebay, item# 151004036331 No reserve, 10 days. Notices tacked on the local telephone poles just have not resulted in much interest. Chris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] GPIB counter logging / plotting software?

2013-02-25 Thread Chris Howard
I have the USB/GPIB Prologix thingy also. My Racal 1992 on talk mode just sends the readings down the wire. I can collect them with regular serial port work on the PC side. I don't really understand GPIB or talk mode. But the readings show up on my serial port. Chris On 2/25/2013 10:44 AM,

[time-nuts] GPSDO - 8 days of data (and FTS-4060 for sale)

2013-02-13 Thread Chris Howard
would like to sell the FTS-4060 and use the money to buy a better HF radio, and get back to the part of my hobby activities I enjoy more. No offense, but time-nuts stuff sure takes a long time. Chris Howard W0EP Columbus, Mississippi ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] systron 6153 troubleshooting

2013-02-09 Thread Chris Howard
Any advice on troubleshooting the D channel of a Systron 6153 counter? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] measuring my GPSDO : length of TimeLab run?

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Howard
than X hours will only be measuring the fine properties of the oscillator and not the whole system. The question is, how many hours of data collection are needed to capture a characterization of the GPSDO as a whole? What do people to with Thunderbolts and other similar systems? Chris Howard w0ep

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-12 Thread Chris Howard
On 1/12/2013 7:40 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: At 250 ps you use interpolators. The typical coarse counter would be 100 MHz and that means 10 ns in raw resolution, but you would then use an interpolator to get higher resolution. By getting a start and stop measure, roughly tau time

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Howard
The manual states that loosing the settings on a 6680 is no big problem , but on the 6681 you loose the interpolator calibtation. And it sounds like that's not a good thing. I didn't know you had to watch out for Battery on a PM6680/81. CFO - Tnut-Beginner Denmark Would loss of

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO compare FTS-4060

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Howard
On 12/29/2012 8:28 PM, Adrian wrote: Chris, patience is the key to successfully trimming your Cs unit. You will really want to compare it to your GPS for a week or so. You might be surprised about your findings. Actually, you're in need of a third high performance source... how else can

[time-nuts] GPSDO compare FTS-4060

2012-12-29 Thread Chris Howard
Today I arrived home from a trip to Cleveland to pick up my FTS-4060 Cesium standard. About 45 minutes after power-up the lock light came on. This is unit S/N 1253. I think the only option it has is the 1 MHz/100 kHz output. I connected both my GPSDO and this thing to my O-scope and can see

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO compare FTS-4060

2012-12-29 Thread Chris Howard
On 12/29/2012 7:17 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: I would recommend to use a TIC and TimeLab to assist you on that task. It is recommended to look at the phase plot (P), frequency plot (F) and modified Allan deviation plot (M) every once in a while. A benefit is naturally that you can share

[time-nuts] any time nuts in Cleveland ?

2012-12-20 Thread Chris Howard
Surplus FTC-4060 which needs collecting in the next 10 days. ch...@elfpen.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] any time nuts in Cleveland ?

2012-12-20 Thread Chris Howard
On 12/20/2012 11:48 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: fts or ftc FTS-4060 (you're right) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] any time nuts in Cleveland ?

2012-12-20 Thread Chris Howard
On 12/20/2012 11:35 AM, Chris Howard wrote: Surplus FTC-4060 which needs collecting in the next 10 days. Sorry, this is causing more trouble than I was expecting. I will be more clear. I bought a surplus FTS-4060. The thing sits in Cleveland and I have 10 days to secure it. I'm looking

Re: [time-nuts] Strange DCF77 master clock data

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Howard
If it were me, I'd suspect that my window of bits is off to the left or right by one bit. The old first bit is called zero problem. And the relationship between 7- 3 and 5- 1 makes me wonder. Chris On 12/10/2012 5:00 AM, Tom Harris wrote: I am logging the data from this strange master

[time-nuts] Thanks to all

2012-12-09 Thread Chris Howard
I just want to say thanks to all who participate on this list. You guys are way above my batting average and I learn a lot just by hanging around. Thanks for being patient with newbies and dummies. p.s. my GPSDO (the VE2ZAZ design and board) is running great thanks to advice from you all.

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (maybe fixed)

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Howard
It's been running a few days now and everything looks good. I usually fail on the side of optimism, but hope things continue. Thanks very much to the group for patience and support. Chris Howard ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Howard
The picture, if attached, did not come through. Probably it was stripped off by the mailing list software. I did located what I believe you were speaking of. A small white donut placed in the circuit board which was an attachment point for the trimmer and a smaller fixed capacitor and the blue

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-16 Thread Chris Howard
Maybe that is my problem. I definitely have a problem. I am able to get the EFC to work on some occasions. Usually it will work if I run the trimmer all the way out and toggle the power. I can then adjust the trimmer and get things working. But if I give the box a rap the frequency jumps and

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-15 Thread Chris Howard
You all were right, my targeting of the 50 ohm resistor across the oscillator output does not seem to have solved the problem. A good thing to do, probably, but not the answer. While I was all excited about the resistor change I also mapped out the control voltage (EFC) vs frequency change. I

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-15 Thread Chris Howard
On 11/15/2012 3:49 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: .90 VDC 9,999,999.90 How and where are you measuring the EFC voltage? Are you sure the voltage on the EFC pin of the 10811 (Pin 6) was the same as you measured? Was the EFC return pin (Pin 5) connected to the oscillator supply return

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ishquestion)

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Howard
My perpetually drifting 10811 pretty quickly made it to the negative voltage rail on the control voltage. I was looking at the oscillator output with an O-scope and it looked pretty nasty. My equipment is not so hot, so I first chalked that up to bad probes. But I did some google work on that

[time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Howard
of behavior an indication of dire problems with my 10811 oscillator? Chris Howard w0ep ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Howard
has move approximately 1 volt. That fits within your 0.05 volts per day. Thanks to everyone. Lots of interesting and helpful information. Chris Howard ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

[time-nuts] antenna restrictions

2012-09-28 Thread Chris Howard
I don't see what the problem is with HOA's and antenna restrictions. I just put a mag-mount antenna on the car that's up on blocks in the driveway. ( a bit of Mississippi humor for your Friday afternoon :-) ) peace! Chris Columbus, MS ___

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Howard
Yes, I have done so. You need a level converter. And the DSPMon software from the trimble web site is very informative. The Resolution T manual is also available on that web site. Chris On 8/6/2012 11:57 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves wrote: Hi! I'm looking at the Resolution T from Trimble

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution T

2012-08-06 Thread Chris Howard
From the URL you had given, just find the Support tab and you will have the manual and the software. On 8/6/2012 2:00 PM, Chris Howard wrote: Yes, I have done so. You need a level converter. And the DSPMon software from the trimble web site is very informative. The Resolution T manual

Re: [time-nuts] Pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module 12ns 1pps

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Howard
On 5/17/2012 2:24 AM, Ken Kubick wrote: Does anyone have or know where I can find the pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module 12ns 1pps? Thankyou I have a Resolution T User Guide PDF file which has that info. I found it on the Trimble web site. If you cannot find it, I can

Re: [time-nuts] Pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module 12ns 1pps

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Howard
On 5/17/2012 2:24 AM, Ken Kubick wrote: Does anyone have or know where I can find the pinouts for a Trimble Resolution T Timing GPS module 12ns 1pps? Thankyou I have a Resolution T User Guide PDF file which has that info. I found it on the Trimble web site. If you cannot find it, I can

Re: [time-nuts] Pretty ADEV/Tau plots

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Howard
These pretty ADEV/Tau plots, do people have an automated system to produce these things? How much work is involved? How many samples are taken? Sample for a month, omputer crunching for weeks? I have no feel for what the process is like. I have two oscillators and a Racal 1992 counter. If

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a Counter - msg for Chuck

2011-10-10 Thread Chris Howard
On 10/8/2011 10:43 AM, Roy Phillips wrote: Chuck If you failed to get the Racal - don't worry, the HP is a better product without all that aggravation that comes with doubts about the front panel buttons that frequently fail, and the symbols that wear off. The HP 5334A or B are a better bet,

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-23 Thread Chris Howard
On 9/23/2011 3:23 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi again: What is the speed of light in rock? Outside of a cave the answer is C. Inside a cave, it's too dark to read my watch. (With apologies to Grocho Marx) ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] seeking a time/clock software architecture

2011-09-23 Thread Chris Howard
Seems like a lot of unknowns. You would have to have sensors monitoring the sensors. Do you lose too much by just maintaining a lifetime worst-case number, or maybe some kind of probability function? On 9/23/2011 3:45 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: And then it gets nasty: Vehicle

[time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-21 Thread Chris Howard
I'm building a GPSDO using the VE2ZAZ board, an HP 10811 oscillator and a Trimble Resolution T GPS. My goal is a simple and cheap 10 Mhz standard for my little home electronics bench and ham shack. I have my power supply parts finally gathered up, now I have these boards that need

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO - internal connections question

2011-09-21 Thread Chris Howard
On 9/21/2011 4:08 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Twisted pair is fine for the EFC. Shielded twisted pair (one end grounded on the shield) might be slightly better). A lot depends on how many yards long the EFC wire is :) Bob Thanks! Would it do any good to have the control board, GPS, or

[time-nuts] Lightsquared, time-nuts and the press

2011-07-07 Thread Chris Howard
I just had a phone conversation with someone who said she was a reporter for the NY Post about the comment I put in at the FCC regarding the Lightsquared report. I told her I heard about the issue at time-nuts. Chris ___ time-nuts mailing list

[time-nuts] Loran C generator - FAA Atlantic City.

2011-02-16 Thread Chris Howard
FAA has some stuff for sale in Atlantic City, NJ on the GSA auction website, including a Loran-C generator which is still at 0 bids and $10. Just FYI. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Mains as time-reference

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Howard
http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/Data/Realtime/Frequency/Freq60.htm There's a beautiful screensaver available at http://gridwise.pnl.gov/technologies/ which shows the US WECC ( or so it seems ). Chris ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Mains as time-reference

2010-12-30 Thread Chris Howard
On 12/30/2010 4:58 PM, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: There's a beautiful screensaver available at http://gridwise.pnl.gov/technologies/ which shows the US WECC ( or so it seems ). I tried running the monitor program (not the screen saver), and it says that I have no Internet connection available.

[time-nuts] 10811 EFC load question

2010-10-28 Thread Chris Howard
What is the current requirement for the 10811 EFC +/- 5Vdc ? Is there any advantage to having it served by batteries? Chris w0ep ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] hammarlund TM700-A document

2010-10-07 Thread Chris Howard
found in an old pile of stuff: Hammarlund TM700-A Secondary Frequency Standard Operating Instructions 7 pages and a cover letter. Free, if anyone wants it. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-09 Thread Chris Howard
1) Your own LORAN? 2) MASERS! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-09 Thread Chris Howard
Radar calibration: You could do a clock calibration if you knew some fixed reference points to sweep. Put some towers up on a few of the taller peaks in the area. Measure them while the GPS is running and use them for reference to keep the clocks right when GPS is down. But masers sound

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: homebrew H maser

2010-09-01 Thread Chris Howard
Given the quality of vacuum the manual seems to imply, I'm guessing this wont cut it. I'll bet that even low impurity Teflon has a long bakeout period. Too bad they don't have some kind of getter to allow lower vacuum specs. I expect they thought of that. The thing does sound like a

[time-nuts] radioactive decay rates change?

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Howard
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/sun-082310.html It's a mystery that presented itself unexpectedly: The radioactive decay of some elements sitting quietly in laboratories on Earth seemed to be influenced by activities inside the sun, 93 million miles away. Any implication for CS