[time-nuts] Time-nut for Congress?

2011-12-18 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello Time-Nuts, I would like to ask some public policy questions to Congressional Candidate Brooke Clarke, and because these questions deal with timekeeping matters, I argue that they are on-topic for this list. Question 1: Do you feel that legal time in USA should be anchored to a natural

Re: [time-nuts] Save Survey Data Question: Trimble T-Bolt

2011-08-23 Thread Michael Sokolov
Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote: I just got another T-Bolt, this time a Rev E. What is special / noteworthy about this rev? I have recently bought my first T-Bolt (from another listmember, and I have yet to power it up), and it's also a Rev E. MS

Re: [time-nuts] Why not TAI? (was: The future of UTC)

2011-08-10 Thread Michael Sokolov
Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: That is a very good question, the answers you get if you try to press this point starts with handwaving and ends with look, just don't, OK ? And what happens if you ignore their edicts and do it anyway? It's called Civil Disobedience. Using TAI is

Re: [time-nuts] UTR timescale draft spec

2011-08-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: The present specification outlines a low cost method for obtaining a low cost method is a potential goal, skip statement here. IOW, you are suggesting that the line in question read The present specification outlines a method for obtaining

Re: [time-nuts] UTR timescale draft spec

2011-08-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: You just got better wordings here. scalar and mononously are the key things, then say that. OK, I'm not a mathematics major, but aren't scalar and real number two different terms for the same thing? I admit to not knowing whether complex

[time-nuts] UTR timescale draft spec

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello again, I have just written up the formal spec for the UTR timescale which I'm seeking to implement on my rubber duckie timekeeping apparatus which I had discussed here earlier this week, and I have released the first draft for review:

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: It's even less logical than that. With rubber seconds tied to the Earth's rotation. You ultra stable cesium clock is no longer running at a fixed frequency. Wait a minute here, Chris... Weren't you just telling me the other day how

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello again, Thank you all for your recommendations. It looks like I will go with a ThunderBolt: I have found Trimble's manual online, read all of it, and it looks like the unit will do exactly what I am after. I will feed all 3 outputs from the TBolt (10 MHz, 1 PPS, EIA-232) to a custom

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Why such complex a system when you don't need it?An FPGA??? Fixing a logic mistake in an FPGA involves editing a Verilog source file and recompiling; fixing a logic mistake in discrete logic involves a board respin. I much prefer editing

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: NTP software can keep system time within a few milliseconds of UTC. No custom hardware, no FPGA or PCB. But I _*REFUSE*_ to do it that way. You've mentioned UTC: that's one thing I'm taking great care to avoid in my solution. I want my system

[time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello time-nuts, I've been on this list for several years now and I've made a few little comments on occasion, but this will be my first real technical post. I desire to build a timekeeping apparatus which I have nicknamed the rubber duckie, or a Rubber Time Generator. As I've voiced very

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: In engineering something like this it is very impotent NOT to mix up primary requirements, derived requirements, implementation details. primary requirements describe the thing you want, NOT how it works. Derived ones are the logical fallout

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I think you can do just fine without GPS and GPSDXO oscillators and the like. NTP over the Internet is an order of magnitude better then you need. No, I really don't want anything NTP-based. Or let's put it another way: part of my objective

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO for my rubber duckie

2011-08-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Henry Hallam he...@pericynthion.org wrote: The parameters you'll want for conversion between MCAT and mean solar time are given daily in the IERS bulletins: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/products/bulletins/bulletins.html Yes, I know. By making use of these you should be able to do much

Re: [time-nuts] Hyperterminal with variable baud rate

2010-11-18 Thread Michael Sokolov
Corby Dawson cdel...@juno.com wrote: At the lower clock rate I can't communicate as the corrected baud rate comes out to 955 baud. [...] Are there any terminal programs out there that allow you to select rates other than the standard values? The restriction to standard baud rates only is a

[time-nuts] How the nut bug bites (was oscillator choice question)

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Niels Lueddecke id...@abwesend.de wrote: Don't do it, it may drag you deep into nut territory... All i wanted was a clock based on a cheap LPro rubidium. Next thing i knew were strange things piling up on my desk. Now theres a custom power supply, 7 AVRs on a couple of boards, an FPGA

Re: [time-nuts] MTBF (was Rubidium standard)

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Sokolov
As I have learned in school from a department head, mean time between failures (MTBF) means anything only if you are being mean. If you are not being mean, it means nothing. MS ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS time, UTC and TAI

2009-10-22 Thread Michael Sokolov
Jean-Louis Oneto jean-louis.on...@obs-azur.fr wrote: If you take the leap seconds out of UTC (in fact UTC(GPS), steered close to UTC(USNO)), you will _not_ get TAI, just UTC(GPS)-34s...! You will get TAPF = Temps Atomique Pedant-Free! TAPF is identical with TAI in every respect except for

Re: [time-nuts] US ebay sellers who won't ship outside the US

2009-07-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Regardless of the reason as to why eBay sellers won't ship outside USA no matter how much you beg or how much you pay them, the solution is obvious: have an intermediate in the belly of the beast do the proxy buying and reshipping. I would be very glad to act as that intermediate for virtually

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sokolov
John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: Not everybody can stomach Google's perversion of Usenet (which admittedly was no small engineering feat in itself). Aren't there still non-Google ways of accessing Usenet? MS ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Google wrecked dejanews in the spirit of political correctness, the nanny state, and trying to pretend that usenet is just a part of google groups. Erasing all of the email addresses, and other things. Does anyone know exactly where (building, city,

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Michael Sokolov
Lux, James P james.p@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Things get done for funny reasons: After all, the physical size of France is why ATM cells (packets) are 53 bytes (48 byte payload) instead of either 32 byte or 64 byte payloads. Huh? Can you please elaborate? I thought the 48 octets of payload

Re: [time-nuts] Solstice question, about 5000 years ago

2008-12-21 Thread Michael Sokolov
Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote: The passage grave at New Grange, Ireland, is one of those astronomical wonders where the rising sun at winter solstice shines down a relatively long tunnel to shine on carved stone at the far wall of a chamber. We know that solstice has the shortest day and

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Frequency Stability of Trimble Mini-T

2008-10-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only guy who got it right was John Wakerly from Stanford. Yay, the author of my favourite book on digital design! MS ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Help with HP 8640B generator

2008-09-07 Thread Michael Sokolov
Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd have put a head in each cube if that had been possible. What kind of head? Or whose head? Curious, MS ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello again, Thanks to everyone who has replied to my query! I have a few additional questions though: 1. What about the tin whiskers? Will they be eliminated by using SnPb solder, or will they always remain a potential problem when one is forced to use a Pb-free part? 2. Several people have