Re: [time-nuts] Slightly OT: interest in a four-output, ultra-low jitter, synthesizer block?

2018-01-25 Thread wb6bnq
for reading, 73BillWB6BNQ John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Hi Bill -- I should have been more clear: this design will be for a simple case: one reference clock input, four outputs. The chip can do all sorts of fancy tricks, but I'm looking for a source of four low jitter outputs derived from

Re: [time-nuts] Slightly OT: interest in a four-output, ultra-low jitter, synthesizer block?

2018-01-25 Thread wb6bnq
to using the non-crystal inputs. Perhaps you could indicate what you are attempting to do with it and how you are going to accomplish your goals ? 73BillWB6BNQ John Ackermann N8UR wrote: After the recent discussion about Silicon Labs clock generators, I looked at their Si5340A part

Re: [time-nuts] Charles Wenzel GPSDO

2017-06-21 Thread wb6bnq
Chuck, It is an analog version of the BROOK SHERA approach from almost 20 years ago. BillWB6BNQ Chuck / Judy Burch wrote: I have been waiting for Charles Wenzel to get around to designing and building a GPSDO. Well, he has done it now and you can see it at <http://www.techlib.

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5650A option 58 tuning word for 10 MHz output

2017-01-10 Thread wb6bnq
the output frequency. BillWB6BNQ Clint Jay wrote: Yes, in the 5650 there's only DDS on opt 58, in the 5680 there is one in the main loop too, my bad for not being precise/muddled. On 10 Jan 2017 01:43, "wb6bnq" <wb6...@cox.net> wrote: HI Bob & Clint, If yo

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5650A option 58 tuning word for 10 MHz output

2017-01-09 Thread wb6bnq
n 58 being discussed. BillWB6BNQ Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi In most Rb’s (including the FE 56xx’s) the DDS is mixed with a fixed microwave frequency signal. The DDS only has to make up “part” of the total offset. You get roughly a three orders of magnitude improvement because of this. Rick has

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5650A option 58 tuning word for 10 MHz output

2017-01-09 Thread wb6bnq
. This method does not give a lot of confidence as to preciseness. The real value in these Rb units is they have a much lower drift rate than a reasonably good quality Quartz oscillator. Typically less then parts in 10 to the minus 10th or minus 11th per month. BillWB6BNQ Mathias Weyland

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5650A option 58 tuning word for 10 MHz output

2017-01-04 Thread wb6bnq
. Hopefully the above helps to clear up your query ? BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Problem with HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator stepping up/down 100 Hz when not wanted.

2016-12-22 Thread wb6bnq
purchasing a second expensive 20 GHz signal generator. They are around $10,000 each, so a bit out of my price range. Dave Dave, I would not automatically assume that the problem is at your end of things. It could well be something has gone wrong at the other end. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Temperature weirdness with Thunderbolt & Lady Heather 5

2016-12-16 Thread wb6bnq
? The available number of SATS is quite low and could be a matter of concern. BillWB6BNQ Pete Stephenson wrote: On 12/15/2016 7:45 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Tom wrote: There's something very odd going on here, either with Pete's TBolt, and/or with Mark's Heather v5. 2) It also

Re: [time-nuts] OT: ExpressPCB (cross-post from volts-nuts)

2016-12-09 Thread wb6bnq
as well. BillWB6BNQ Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: On 9 December 2016 at 19:58, BIll Ezell <w...@quackers.net> wrote: Sorry if I'm behind the times, just did a new project that required a pcb, and ExpressPCB is my go-to vendor for one-off boards. I just noticed th

Re: [time-nuts] Jim Miller simple GPSDO

2016-09-12 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Bryan, No ! Assuming you mean R1/R2/C1/C2 of the Miller schematic, those values are already set for the comparison frequency (10KHz) of the PLL phase comparator (U2). BillWB6BNQ Bryan _ wrote: Hello: I have been following the Jim Miller simple GSDO build project at http

Re: [time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.

2016-08-13 Thread wb6bnq
Hello Orin, Like I mentioned before http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml will accept the ExpressPCB program file and their prices are very reasonable compared to having the work done through ExpressPCB themselves. BillWB6BNQ Orin Eman wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Brooke

Re: [time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.

2016-08-12 Thread wb6bnq
otroom.com/CopperConnection/index.html ) It is a bit more involved than the ExpressPCB program and does have GERBER files as a selection. However he charges for the program but it seems the prices are reasonable ( http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/Buy.html ). 73....BillWB6BNQ Di

Re: [time-nuts] Temperature controlled TCVCXO

2016-05-13 Thread wb6bnq
the radical slope. In addition you will also have to consider the elevated temperature effects on the other components. It is a never ending battle. BillWB6BNQ Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok, with a TCXO you have a temperature sensor that tries to servo the crystal on to frequency. You also have

Re: [time-nuts] What is "accuracy"? (newbie timenut, hi folks!)

2016-05-06 Thread wb6bnq
th respect to the shooting) is if all the bullets were directly in the bulls eye (center of target). And if you can consisterntly repeat hitting just the bulls eye then you have stability. BillWB6BNQ BJ wrote: Hi Time Nuts, I'm fairly new to the fascinating world of time and frequency, so I

Re: [time-nuts] 1 PPS 50-ohm driver

2016-04-17 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Douglas, Blowing up the picture shows some lettering in the white bar at the bottom of the display (fairly fuzzy). It looks like it is saying 2 volts for the signal with the scope set to 0.5 volts per division. BillWB6BNQ Douglas Bercich wrote: I was looking but can't find a V

Re: [time-nuts] MTI 260-0624-D OCXO

2016-02-19 Thread wb6bnq
set it to near the turnover point and the pot's small value may have just enough range to make it just past the turnover point. My two cents, BillWB6BNQ time...@metachaos.net wrote: I have just about finished trashing this OCXO. I was able to run it outside of its case, and I have

Re: [time-nuts] MTI 260-0624-D OCXO

2016-02-19 Thread wb6bnq
Mike, Way more likely that "POT" set the temperature of the oven. BillWB6BNQ time...@metachaos.net wrote: Bob, The vendor has said that they did not want the unit back. So... I opened it up. Crudely, I admit. I learned a few things. I was concerned about the outer case heat

Re: [time-nuts] Valpey-Fisher VFT22H OCXO Output

2016-01-30 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Logan, My guess is there is some second or third harmonic energy present. I have observed the very same thing on another oscillator. Look at it with a spectrum analyzer and see what kind of harmonic energy is there. BillWB6BNQ Logan Cummings wrote: Hi All, Curious what

Re: [time-nuts] Newbie questions

2016-01-27 Thread wb6bnq
into 600 Ohms which is 0.7745966692414834 Vrms. More commonly referred to as 0.775 Vrms. As for your GPS questions, I will leave that up to others to answer. BillWB6BNQ time...@metachaos.net wrote: Hi, I am a newbie to this list. I have downloaded the archives and read about 5,000

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air

2016-01-01 Thread wb6bnq
A whole year ago ? ? ? ? ? paul swed wrote: The Wildwood, NJ eLoran transmitter will be continuously broadcasting from 0900 (EST) on 05 January 2015 through 1500 (EST) on 15 January 2015. Wildwood will be broadcasting as 8970 Master and Secondary most of the time but occasionally may operate

Re: [time-nuts] Tuning a Trimble Thunderbolt

2015-04-22 Thread wb6bnq
it shows you are only receiving two sats at the time of screen capature. BillWB6BNQ Pete Stephenson wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Backing up a bit to “getting a TBolt running”. 1) instal Lady Heather and get it connected to the TBolt 2) does

Re: [time-nuts] OXCO insulation

2015-02-25 Thread wb6bnq
on the product at this URL : http://www.aerogel.com/_resources/common/userfiles/file/Data%20Sheets/Spaceloft_MSDS.pdf It is not dangerous, but can cause medical problems if mishandled. BillWB6BNQ Dave M wrote: Great find, Arthur. I had already convinced myself to use fiberglass insulation

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread wb6bnq
frequency range requirements. BillWB6BNQ d0ct0r wrote: Hello, I would like to ask some advise about the signal distortion I get from my DDS project. The T-Bolt GPSDO is in use as a REF signal source (10Mhz) for AD9858 DDS. This chip has two COS analog outputs which opposite to each

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-45A is alive!

2014-12-08 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Bob, I think using a latching relay is a very good idea and prudent. Besides while it is reacquiring lock you would probably be busy resetting VCR's and so forth. BillWB6BNQ Bob Stewart wrote: Hi Pete, I don't have any way of knowing. I've asked the seller if he has a copy

[time-nuts] 5 to 10 MHz Quad Driven Mixer doubler article

2014-11-19 Thread wb6bnq
list of manuals and other papers etc.. 73BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz Rubidium reference source for frequency counter

2014-10-27 Thread wb6bnq
(up to days) is last, again, with respect to accuracy. BillWB6BNQ Karen Tadevosyan wrote: Many thanks for all your recommendations. Let me provide more details for understanding of my task. I am playing with a GPSDO project on base of uBlox NEO-7M (http://www.ra3apw.ru/ublox-neo-7m-ocxo

Re: [time-nuts] Yokogawa TA320 Time Interval Analyzer

2014-10-06 Thread wb6bnq
Dave, Should have included the main page for that instrument. Here it is: http://tmi.yokogawa.com/us/discontinued-products/other-test-measurement-instruments/time-interval-analyzers/ta320-time-interval-analyzer/ BillWB6BNQ Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: I see

Re: [time-nuts] Yokogawa TA320 Time Interval Analyzer

2014-10-06 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Dave, Here is a link to the manual for that unit. http://tmi.yokogawa.com/files/uploaded/ta320spec.pdf BillWB6BNQ Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: I see this on eBay http://m.ebay.com/itm/220505574616 Note that the seller has misspelled the manufacturers name. Has

Re: [time-nuts] DIY FE-5680A lobotomy (disable temp compensation)

2014-06-28 Thread wb6bnq
and is electrically NON-conductive. Food for thought, BillWB6BNQ Scott Newell wrote: Bert asked me to send an update on the FE-5680 tempco mod progress. It appears that the FE-5680A temperature signal (or maybe it's really a current sense signal?) can be disabled by removing a single 10k

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller

2014-06-19 Thread wb6bnq
is. But as I recall it was covered in a couple of PDF files by people who were showing how to connect and other such data about the older version. BillWB6BNQ Charles Steinmetz wrote: Bill wrote: There are two types of FE5680's. The older style used an ANALOG approach to controlling

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller

2014-06-18 Thread wb6bnq
frequency. The digital version does not permit any ANALOG control. Bert's board is for the newer style DIGITAL version. BillWB6BNQ Dave Brown wrote: Hi Bert Will this work with all 5680s? I understood (but may be wrong) that there are several versions of the 5680. I guess if the serial

Re: [time-nuts] Is it Hz or MHz ?

2014-06-02 Thread wb6bnq
that is +/-0.00025 Hertz error. At 1 MHz it is +/-0.5 Hertz error. And, finally, at 1 Hertz it is +/-0.005 Hertz error. BillWB6BNQ Kit Scally wrote: Team Nutters, GPSDO's are often specified for stability as so many parts per x. Using a Symmetricom 8040C as an example, this has

Re: [time-nuts] Is it Hz or MHz ?

2014-06-02 Thread wb6bnq
as to the purpose of the specification. Although I probably should have qualified a bit more. It goes without saying that one should be careful when it comes to specmanship no matter who it is. BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote: The value of 5E^-11 refers to the resolution that the precision

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 rubidium on eBay

2014-05-10 Thread wb6bnq
Corby, It would be nice to have included the eBay item number. BillWB6BNQ cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, I'm selling a nice PRS10 on eBay if anyone is interested. With manual and schematics. Works great! Cheers, Corby Dawson ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread wb6bnq
Hello Samuel, Well, I just got done designing and building the very same thing. If I recall correctly it is the same as the HC4046 which is 4 MHz. The 9046 VCO will only go up to 20 MHz absolute maximum. So you will need an external oscillator and dividers. BillWB6BNQ sg sg wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-01 Thread wb6bnq
Bob, I am curious, a week or so ago I sent you an email that gave links to some publications that would serve you very well in helping you to achieve your goals. Did you ever get that email and look at the linked PDF files ? ? ? ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: Chris, Okay you want

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread wb6bnq
of the fundementals of which your questions to this list are centered omn. 73BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: My TS-940S acts as though it receives okay at 60 kHz. Not great sensitivity but it does receive. Most HP GPS receivers are expensive ($400?). I was hoping to get some results

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread wb6bnq
There are plenty of other publications, but no need to overload you too early in the game. The stuff above will give you a basic understanding of the fundementals of which your questions to this list are centered omn. 73BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: My TS-940S acts as though it receives okay

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-20 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Zim, With but a very few exceptions most broadband Amateur radfio trancievers do not do well below 500 KHz even though many allow for tuning below 500 KHz. BillWB6BNQ Graeme Zimmer wrote: I have a Kenwood TS-940S transceiver that can receive 60 kHz but I have never heard anything

Re: [time-nuts] strange behavior of 53230A or is the light on, but nobody in?

2014-02-17 Thread wb6bnq
cover how those connections work. Otherwise, perhaps someone that owns one could provide further insight. BillWB6BNQ mike cook wrote: Something that must be simple to explain, but that I can't get my head round. I got a new 53230A. When first using it, I measured my T-Bolt 10MHz using

Re: [time-nuts] Is this measurement for real?

2013-12-08 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Dave, Well, the question is do you think that is good or bad for the sound card ? BillWB6BNQ quartz55 wrote: I've been testing my soundcard measurement capability with Speclab, so I hooked my LPRO Rb to lock my Moto Service Monitor, fed the 1K audio out into the sound card and I

Re: [time-nuts] Is this measurement for real?

2013-12-08 Thread wb6bnq
incoming signal and the computer's sound card stability. If both are tied to your House Standard, then it is totally up to the quality of your local standard's stability and accuracy. BillWB6BNQ quartz55 wrote: Well, Bill, I just don't know. I think that's why I asked. However, I did

Re: [time-nuts] Is this measurement for real?

2013-12-08 Thread wb6bnq
for the suggestions, BillWB6BNQ Magnus Danielson wrote: Bill, On 12/09/2013 02:30 AM, wb6bnq wrote: Hi Dave, My question was more centered on determining your expectations. I ran into an even worse condition with the cheap sound card, in my shop computer, I used for the Frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble 34310-T EFC Question

2013-11-06 Thread wb6bnq
Bob, Most EFC circuits are relatively high impedance, i.e., around 50K. So, we are talking micro amps of current flow. If there is jitter it is most likely somewhere else in the circuitry OR you are seeing the natural noise in the GPS system. BillWB6BNQ Bob Stewart wrote: I think

Re: [time-nuts] Self-correcting crystal

2013-11-05 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Mike, Far more interesting, at least to the Time-nut community, is the article just above the one you reference. BillWB6BNQ Mike Naruta AA8K wrote: An interesting NIST brief: Perfect Faults: A Self-Correcting Crystal May Unleash the Next Generation of Advanced Communications

Re: [time-nuts] Need a schematic of Trimble 2003 era Thunderbolt RX

2013-10-23 Thread wb6bnq
the signal output. BillWB6BNQ Bob Burchett wrote: Anyone have a link or PDF of the T-Bolt schematic? We are never satisfied with how things that seem to be working fine might fail one day in our critical environment SO: The object of the game is so if the T-Bolt fails to provide the 10

Re: [time-nuts] HP5061B Beam Tubes

2013-09-23 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Bert, Any chance of some high resolution photos ? BillWB6BNQ ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Twelve years ago I did disassemble a regular and a high performance tube, the only negative effect was I joined time nuts. The guts still decorate my window sill. The only parts inside that may

Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display - Update

2013-09-12 Thread wb6bnq
their efforts to the list. But, I do mind when it seems that is the only purpose of their involvement. So, I would vote to have him removed from the list. BillWB6BNQ Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Adam, If you do not normally monitor this email reflector or contribute to it, why are you using

Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display - Update

2013-09-12 Thread wb6bnq
. Your petty, vindictive, verbally abusive and very nasty attack on Mr. Robert Atkinson shows a serious lack of maturity and was totally uncalled for. So, my NO vote still stands as you are not worthy of our company. BillWB6BNQ Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Adam, I have copied

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO questions...

2013-09-05 Thread wb6bnq
know that, just a feeling. If you got it right, perhaps there are other issues like part values that have drifted. BillWB6BNQ Alan Kamrowski II wrote: Hi, Well, I had it apart so I went ahead and tried the heating process on the lamp. I don't see any splattering on the lamp at all

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO questions...

2013-09-05 Thread wb6bnq
would gather together as one glob. Perhaps, those who have rejuvenated these bulbs could provide a keener sense on this point. BillWB6BNQ Alan Kamrowski II wrote: Hi Bill, Where is the dimple? The bulb end looked circular and smooth? Do you mean the other end (back end which is visible

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages of differential oscillator structures?

2013-08-10 Thread wb6bnq
oscillators. BillWB6BNQ Attila Kinali wrote: Hi, While reading up on oscillator circuits i stumbled over differential oscillator structures (see [1] for example). But sofar i have been unable to figure out what the exact advantages of a differential oscillator strucutre in general

[time-nuts] Rb video - UPDATE video for you critics

2013-08-10 Thread wb6bnq
To the Group, Here is a link of Gerry's update video addressing some of the concerns expressed here and other places. http://gerrysweeney.com/10mhz-rubidium-frequency-standard-and-signal-distribution-amp-follow-up/ BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] SDR Radio Opinion- Next Question

2013-08-05 Thread wb6bnq
://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.htmlThe Spectrum Lab software. BillWB6BNQ J. Forster wrote: OK. Thanks everybody. Can you please reccomend a make/model? I'd like something like: 75 to 1300 MHz USB Ability to function as a crude SA. Not crawling w/ birdies or aliasing issues. Will run on Win XP

Re: [time-nuts] How quartz crystals are (were) fabricated

2013-08-02 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Brooke, The can style should be marked on it. The designation CR41 or 2 is hanging around the back of my mind. I would have to drag up the few I have around here somewhere and look at them again. 73BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: Speaking of old crystals, I found

Re: [time-nuts] RS 232

2013-07-25 Thread wb6bnq
, especially at short distances. Irrespective of all that, the power source has no relationship to the RS-232 or USB for that matter. 73BillWB6BNQ ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: I do not understand your question, I am referring to low noise applications like counters for dual mixers

Re: [time-nuts] Spectrum Analyzer Suggestions

2013-07-13 Thread wb6bnq
expensive and unless you actually need it, it is a complete waste of money. If it comes with a battery, expect it to not be in very good shape. The battery pack is made up of large round 2 volt lead acid cells and when left discharged will leak acid. BillWB6BNQ Perry Sandeen wrote: List

Re: [time-nuts] Spectrum Analyzer Suggestions

2013-07-13 Thread wb6bnq
Perry, I did not pay attention to bottom frequency of the hp SpecAn in my last post. Do you actually do something below 100KHz ? BillWB6BNQ Perry Sandeen wrote: List,  I just purchased a HP 3585 spec analyzer on E bay for a reasonable price. I wanted this instead of the 181 series

Re: [time-nuts] +12 Volts 1A (plus a bit) supply?

2013-06-27 Thread wb6bnq
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Re: [time-nuts] Carrier meter

2013-06-13 Thread WB6BNQ
Perry, Just out of curiosity, who the hell are you talking to and more importantly what are you talking about ? ? ? ? BillWB6BNQ Perry Sandeen wrote: List, Wrote: I have noticed that my Carrier meter doesn't consistently go to Zero. The Meter itself seems fine. Your questions

Re: [time-nuts] Carrier meter

2013-06-13 Thread WB6BNQ
AH-HA, thank you Bob. Now it makes some sense ! BillWB6BNQ Bob Camp wrote: HI He's answering a question from about a day ago on the R-390 list. Bob On Jun 13, 2013, at 7:59 PM, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: Perry, Just out of curiosity, who the hell are you talking

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap 9.8Mhz Sa.22c's

2013-06-02 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ Mark C. Stephens wrote: These are 9.8304Mhz, is possible to move them to 10Mhz? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Symmetricom-SA-22c-9-8304MHz-Precision-Rubidium-Oscillator-5V-and-15V-NICE-/261223397404 -marki Kind Regards, Mark Stephens Mark Clemens Stephens | Customer service engineer | Non

Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX

2013-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
the thermistor as they easily break and the leads are most certainly brittle after all these years. Sounds like you need to verify all the power supply voltage levels are correct before anything else. Most importantly, do not jump to conclusions to quickly. BillWB6BNQ Mark C. Stephens wrote

Re: [time-nuts] 10Mhz Sine from Square Wave Synthesizer

2013-05-20 Thread WB6BNQ
the replacement crystal oscillate. The 9.8304 MHz is related to various baud rates and also some clocking frequencies for sound cards. So, don't throw it away as it is still useful. If nothing else you could phase lock a 10 MHz oscillator to it as there is a connecting ratio. BillWB6BNQ Andy

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Adjustment Question

2013-05-08 Thread WB6BNQ
you could disassemble the Cushman oscillator and replace the variable capacitor. That would improve things a little but no where near what can be done with the Marion 89A. Hope this is helpful, BillWB6BNQ Frederick Bray wrote: This might be slightly off-topic, but probably

Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1

2013-04-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Devices has an exact replacement. For my use, I have been working on a layout that would duplicate it but also add the TOSLINK feature so I can get the house standard over to the radio room from my (so-called) Lab. JUst food for thought, BillWB6BNQ Kevin Rosenberg wrote: On Apr 22

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-23 Thread WB6BNQ
. No matter your view point about eBay, their concern is real and should be of concern by everyone else. Particularly, as it is being handled to push it through so fast without the proper vetting. BillWB6BNQ J. Forster wrote: Hi, I recieved a very odd communication, apparently from eBay

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Alexander Wright wrote: On 07/04/13 21:55, WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Alec, I am going to agree with Robert (G8RPI) on his assessment, particularly as the dip switches are clearly visible in one of the pictures. Although I wonder why Robert feels unfortunate about the [ two chip DDS

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-07 Thread WB6BNQ
of it on a short term basis. Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Alexander Wright wrote: On 07/04/13 17:56, Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Alex, These units were used as timing references for secure communication systems (Havequick). see ebay item 130832014630. Unfortunatly they are an older design

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-06 Thread WB6BNQ
that will help you get familiar with the family line. If you have problems with the link let me know. Also, after you get a successful download let me know so I can reduce the FTP storage level, thank you. http://pages.suddenlink.net/stevewingate/cryptic1/for alec on 5650-option-58.zip BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Time shown as two horizontal bars

2013-04-01 Thread WB6BNQ
. A second row would have 5 for the 10 minute marks. The third row would be the hours with just the 12 LEDs but by using dual color LEDs you could cover day and night. Just thought I would complicate your project BillWB6BNQ Bill Hawkins wrote: Looking for a long, thin horizontal

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: snip I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping included TI is losing

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A DDS Board/PIC Code

2013-02-18 Thread WB6BNQ
system is really two different processes. The FEI-5680A number is the generic case and layout style, etc. and another order number is attached that tells what is actually arranged inside. So, the upshot is the older arrangement is easier to play with. Hope this has been helpful, BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-05 Thread WB6BNQ
as they talk about checking motors and buzzer noise from the watch. That being the case it is more likely the 18 MHz should be right on frequency. Well, unless we hear back from the guy and he answers questions put to him, we really won't know whats up. BillWB6BNQ Ed Breya wrote: How do you know

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-05 Thread WB6BNQ
study of the circuitry. Good luck, BillWB6BNQ john wrote: Hi Some very good questions - thanks for the responses. No schematic (or documentation of any description - Ebay purchase), but I've done some dismantling and had a poke around with a multimeter. This is what I find

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-04 Thread WB6BNQ
some of the circuit parameters to make sure things seem proper. BillWB6BNQ john wrote: Hi I'm hoping to get some information on the VCXO that sits in my watch timing machine. The timer is a Chinese clone of a Witschi timer - the heart of the thing is an 18MHz VCXO marked 'SCTF 03

Re: [time-nuts] question for expert time guys

2013-02-01 Thread WB6BNQ
, as well as, going direct to the manufacturers for such OEM products. I do not know if you are aware of it, but and finale product that transmits over the air may need FCC certification. Other sections might apply in certain circumstances. BillWB6BNQ Rick Harold wrote: To time experts

Re: [time-nuts] question for expert time guys

2013-02-01 Thread WB6BNQ
, as well as, going direct to the manufacturers for such OEM products. I do not know if you are aware of it, but and finale product that transmits over the air may need FCC certification. Other sections might apply in certain circumstances. BillWB6BNQ Rick Harold wrote: To time experts/EE's

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise power supplies?

2013-01-30 Thread WB6BNQ
YUP, The C-130 aircraft uses larger than car battery size wet NiCd to fire up the Genset that is used to start the Tubo-prop jet engines. Definitely has lower resistance then the Lead-Acid wet cell. BillWB6BNQ Arthur Dent wrote: But the only NiCd I know about are the AA sized ones. I

Re: [time-nuts] How far can I push a crystal?

2013-01-17 Thread WB6BNQ
and pushing things around trying stretch components. BillWB6BNQ Ed Breya wrote: I've got to make a very clean 10.0594... MHz VCXO for a redo of one of my old circuits. I previously used a 10 MHz ceramic resonator, which was easy enough to push around in frequency. Of course, I have a couple

Re: [time-nuts] hammond 77589

2013-01-15 Thread WB6BNQ
just like your unit. Is your roughly the same size ? Do you know or have a picture of what it came out of ? BillWB6BNQ Jean-Louis Noel wrote: Hi all, Will someone know what it could be? http://www.stben.net/DSC_0338.JPG http://www.stben.net/DSC_0339.JPG Thanks for your help. Bye

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Fabio, I am not crazy about your 10 MHz input circuit. You might want to consider investigating John Miles input arrangement at the following web site: http://www.ke5fx.com/ac.htm I used it to drive an input to a divider chip without the output resistor or capacitor. BillWB6BNQ fabi

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-10 Thread WB6BNQ
would be a reasonable goal. BillWB6BNQ Sarah White wrote: On 12/10/2012 6:10 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: I believe that the high temperature alarm you see is triggered at 50 degrees C. If that is what you're seeing without artificially raising the temperature of the Thunderbolt

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-10 Thread WB6BNQ
to the air conditioning cycle. BillWB6BNQ Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: That temperature sensor does have an effect on the final outcome as it is part of the internal equation. So buffering the ambient temperature is important. I've heard this before, but the evidence I have seen does not seem

Re: [time-nuts] Switching oscillators

2012-12-09 Thread WB6BNQ
generator that is automatic when the shore power drops. My two cents, BillWB6BNQ Joseph Gray wrote: For my use, I don't think the switching glitch will be a concern. Most of the time, the equipment will be in a standby mode. There is a high probability

Re: [time-nuts] Switching oscillators

2012-12-09 Thread WB6BNQ
, usually most things get to nominal room temperature inside of 24 hours. So, in that case RETRACE and WARMUP would mean virtually the same thing. BillWB6BNQ Bob Camp wrote: Hi That's one interpretation and one method of measurement. The other method is to measure frequency shift

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives - Bert's boards

2012-12-07 Thread WB6BNQ
Hello Bert, The boards look nice but tell me nothing of the circuitry. How about sending the schematics ?? That way I can appreciate what it is that you have. BillWB6BNQ p.s. By the way, what ever happen with that DMTD you were going to produce about three years ago ? ewkeh...@aol.com

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread WB6BNQ
mount types. Do yourself a favor and look at the following URL and download the reprint of the QST article. http://www.rt66.com/~shera/index_fs.htm BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: Now you can see the problem with designs that require both a PCB and a programmed uP. Most people can't

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB new modulation

2012-11-22 Thread WB6BNQ
, BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Actually, I think the developing company does have patents on some of the receiver implementations. You can probably design around them. What's the fine print in this area? Does NIST have any PR blurbs covering patents

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
. As for the FE-5680 Rb, it would require some filtering and such. Instead of trying to modify the radio for a direct feed from the Rb it would serve you better as a source in a PLL type arrangement. Just my two cents. So give us more details. BillWB6BNQ Joseph Gray wrote: I know that some here

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
a linear relationship for off frequency. I still need to figure out how to measure these voltages with an ADC and interface to a R-Pi. Just a fun project, I thought. Joe Gray W5JG On Nov 4, 2012 4:15 PM, WB6BNQ [1]wb6...@cox.net wrote: Hi Joe

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring gpsdo vs itself

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Tom, I think you missed the point. He is trying to measure the noise floor of the counter itself. So what he wants to know is if using the same signal for the time base and input, would that cancel out the signals contribution to the noise measurement. BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate timestamping on computers (previously: For mywhole life timezones have been weird)

2012-11-03 Thread WB6BNQ
to me your clock should not be an issue in of itself. However, I am retired, as such, do not have a watch and pay little attention to the wall clock. BillWB6BNQ Sarah White wrote: On 11/3/2012 5:32 AM, Sarah White wrote: So, at or around 1981 (the year I was born) there was a cool concept

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK and M100 question

2012-10-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Corby, Will it start when it gets cold ? How long do you have to let it cool before it will re ignite ? Perhaps the lamp oscillator has a problem where it will not oscillate when hot with the momentary lost of power. BillWB6BNQ cdel...@juno.com wrote: It's been a few years since I

[time-nuts] WWVB Format Ownership

2012-09-27 Thread WB6BNQ
. That certainly wouldn't do, so instead it is done in quasi secret and sprung on the unsuspecting as a done deal. Clearly, DO IT and ask for forgiveness afterwards. So much for government transparency ! BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] WOT: Identify this movie

2012-09-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Bill, Seems to me the movie Fifth Element had some kind of living quarters similar to what you are suggesting sans the bicycle thing. BillWB6BNQ Bill Hawkins wrote: It's a dark and quiet night, and list traffic is way down, so please forgive me for this way off topic request. I'm

Re: [time-nuts] cozevolosjce

2012-09-22 Thread WB6BNQ
True-cal, This is a blantant AD. John should see to it this guy is removed from the list. BillWB6BNQ true-...@swbell.net wrote: http://stockage.elfangelis.fr/cash.php?kxnc%9x%77%1h%08xpidio%4e=943 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

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