Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Alex Pummer
and that magic timing machine was the vibrograph, more abot it here: https://www.google.com/search?q=vibrographclient=firefox-ahs=Kyhrls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialchannel=nptbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=iK6RVeX4FJTUoASf2KeIBQved=0CB4QsAQbiw=1024bih=507 we had one 73 KJ6UHN On 6/29/2015 12:16

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Bob Camp
-0400 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle Hi Just to clarify: In the “art” the watches all ran fast rather than slow. They *would* have run slow if the room temperature / skin temperature delta was an issue. Since they did not, one

[time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Sims
A friend of mine is the test engineer/clock guru for one of the major manufacturers of clock chips. Rest assured that all watch makers know the usage profiles for their customers quite well and they do indeed tweak the chip to compensate for the typical profile. If your usage pattern does

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Andy
If this was normal back at the turn of the 20th century, why wouldn't Casio, and others at least do as well? Especially now that all electronic watches have a microprocessor built in... complete with temperature sensing diodes, battery monitors, and other nifty gadgets. I am

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Andy, I think you would be guessing wrongly. The vast majority of watch owners don't want to ever have to set, wind, adjust the calendar, or in anyway think, or fiddle with their watch's time. They want it to just be right. In other words, their disinterest makes them the anti-time-nut.

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On Jun 29, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Andy ai.egrps...@gmail.com wrote: If this was normal back at the turn of the 20th century, why wouldn't Casio, and others at least do as well? Especially now that all electronic watches have a microprocessor built in... complete with temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Even back in the 1970’s we used computing counters to read the 32 KHz. You get 7 digits in about 10 ms these days. It will take you longer to power up the module and stabilize it than the frequency reading takes. The semiconductor process for the watch chips has always been a bit odd. They

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-30 Thread Andy
Measuring a 32kHz frequency to ~100 PPB accuracy takes some time, even for ATE. Time is money. I didn't think the hardware to do the computations and the digital offset was any problem. I thought the temperature and voltage sensors might be, since they are analog. But you can integrate them

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-29 Thread Bryan _
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:41:15 -0400 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle Hi Just to clarify: In the “art” the watches all ran fast rather than slow. They *would* have run slow if the room temperature / skin temperature delta

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Back in the day when mechanical escapement pocket watches, and wrist watches were state of the art, the jeweler would adjust the watch to run at a normal rate, and give them a daily wind. Everything looked nice in the display case. When a customer bought a watch, the jeweler would set the watch

Re: [time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Just to clarify: In the “art” the watches all ran fast rather than slow. They *would* have run slow if the room temperature / skin temperature delta was an issue. Since they did not, one assumes that Casio digitally compensates this model (and probably all their watches). The typical

[time-nuts] Casio Watches 13 Year Drift in Seattle

2015-06-27 Thread John Stuart
I think there may be a new Time-Nut in the Seattle area, , , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOMUhS8gV0 John, KM6QX ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts