Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-03-04 Thread Jose Camara
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:39 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI I have been leaning more toward Agilent and away from Tektronix for this very reason. On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:17:54 -0700, Tom

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2012-02-27 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:07:04 -0500 Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net wrote: Do you believe there may be a problem for those who are reverse-engineering, and posting on the open net, items which may be covered under these regulations? Not unless you live in the US. Then you are bound by the

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-18 Thread shalimr9
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI One thing to keep in mind is that FEI is very largely a defense contractor, so their customers, marketing, and motivation are a bit different than the typical business-to-business model. John On 2/17

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2012-02-18 Thread Peter Gottlieb
time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI One thing to keep in mind is that FEI is very largely a defense contractor, so their customers, marketing, and motivation are a bit different than the typical business-to-business model

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2012-02-17 Thread d . seiter
will want to reverse engineer them. -Dave - Original Message - From: Mike McCauley mi...@open.com.au To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI Hmmm

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2012-02-17 Thread Steve
: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI Hmmm, Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public reverse engineering of it? On Friday, February 17, 2012 05:43:49 PM Gerald Molenkamp wrote: I have

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2012-02-17 Thread paul swed
, no one will want to reverse engineer them. -Dave - Original Message - From: Mike McCauley mi...@open.com.au To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact

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2012-02-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 2/17/12 5:27 AM, paul swed wrote: The used market makes no difference to them. No revenue stream. In fact I would say you are swatting at the behive. It would be wise to leave them alone since several have reached out and already had a poor experience. As someone else pointed out this is what

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2012-02-17 Thread Bill Riches
they... 73, Bill Riches, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact

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2012-02-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 2/17/12 7:02 AM, Bill Riches wrote: Good points made - no income for the company, However on the other side of the coin - look at Agilient having available all of the old HP manuals for download even though there is no income to them. I wonder if it was a requirement of them to supply HP

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2012-02-17 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I'm an EE manager and buy Agilent equipment whenever I can over other brands. This is strongly influenced by their obsolete equipment manual policy. On 02/17/12, Bill Richesbill.ric...@verizon.net wrote: Good points made - no income for the company, However on the other side of the coin -

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Gottlieb
mi...@open.com.au To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:02:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI Hmmm, Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to protecting

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2012-02-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:43 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI On 2/17/12 5:27 AM, paul swed wrote: The used

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2012-02-17 Thread Tom Knox
Knox From: mi...@open.com.au To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:02:28 +1000 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI Hmmm, Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public

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2012-02-17 Thread David
I have been leaning more toward Agilent and away from Tektronix for this very reason. On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:17:54 -0700, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: I think that for many of us, we are both professional and hobbyist Time Nuts and companies that encourage the hobbyist will find it pays

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2012-02-17 Thread Bob Camp
-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:25 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI I am not so sure they have a lot of influence on what happens to equipment once they sell

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2012-02-17 Thread paul swed
to the scrap merchants and be parted out. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:25 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI I am

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2012-02-17 Thread Don Latham
-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:25 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI I am not so sure they have a lot of influence on what happens to equipment once they sell

[time-nuts] Fwd: FE-5680A Contact FEI

2012-02-16 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
I have written to them on several occasions about 56 Sent via Gerald's iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net Date: 16 February 2012 10:58:10 AEDT To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A

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2012-02-16 Thread Mike McCauley
Hmmm, Seems they dont realise that their lack of cooperation will lead, not to protecting their product, but rather to the massive, public reverse engineering of it? On Friday, February 17, 2012 05:43:49 PM Gerald Molenkamp wrote: I have written to them on several occasions about 56 Sent