Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 201011090430.oa94up7y046...@stenn.ntp.org, Harlan Stenn writes: Using USB serial introduces amusing amounts of jitter. This is usually not a problem for the NMEA sentences, but I wouldn't want to be detecting the PPS signal via USB1 or USB2 serial devices. I've heard that USB3 should

[time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-09 Thread Mark Sims
It's not exactly a USB dongle,  but if you have a Thunderbolt,  Lady Heather has a time sync command that sets the system clock to Tbolt time.  You can have it set the clock periodically or whenever the system clock diverges from Tbolt time by a specified amount (including 0 milliseconds).  

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-09 Thread Kasper Pedersen
On 11/09/2010 03:07 AM, Hal Murray wrote: The Garmin USB 18 was much better. Unfortunately, it wasn't as sensitive as competing units and it's been replaced by the 18x which has the typical horrible jitter problems. I don't have a graph of the 18x handy, but here is data from a USB 18.

[time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread jim s
This is probably the thousandth time this was asked, but I googled and didn't get a direct answer. I want to do a crude (as in to the second or so) time server inhouse to add into a group of high accuracy servers. This is so that I can go off grid and still get updates. I see that there is

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha is that the NEMA string has a poorly defined transit due to the USB stack. The jitter is still there. On a loaded system it can be fairly large. The next layer to the onion is that the location of the PPS within the NEMA string is also poorly defined on a lot of the cheap(er)

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread Hal Murray
I want to do a crude (as in to the second or so) time server inhouse to add into a group of high accuracy servers. This is so that I can go off grid and still get updates. since USB by its nature won't have an accurate exact dedicated line to let the GPS toggle to do a time hack to the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread jimlux
jim s wrote: This is probably the thousandth time this was asked, but I googled and didn't get a direct answer. I want to do a crude (as in to the second or so) time server inhouse to add into a group of high accuracy servers. This is so that I can go off grid and still get updates. I see

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Conlen
On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:58 PM, jimlux wrote: jim s wrote: This is probably the thousandth time this was asked, but I googled and didn't get a direct answer. I want to do a crude (as in to the second or so) time server inhouse to add into a group of high accuracy servers. This is so that I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread Harlan Stenn
Using USB serial introduces amusing amounts of jitter. This is usually not a problem for the NMEA sentences, but I wouldn't want to be detecting the PPS signal via USB1 or USB2 serial devices. I've heard that USB3 should be much better. I haven't touched any of these yet. -- Harlan Stenn

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread jim s
On 11/8/2010 5:14 PM, jim s wrote: This is probably the thousandth time this was asked, but I googled and didn't get a direct answer. Here is the reference to the PPS that made me make statements about RS232 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=16507 Here is an actual implementation

Re: [time-nuts] GPS USB dongle for time server

2010-11-08 Thread mike cook
Le 09/11/2010 06:50, jim s a écrit : The other thing I didn't state was that I got the USB receiver out of a discard frenzy at the place I'm working, and got it to work with a freebe program on windows XP. It's a Holux GM-210. They do make an RS232 version, but I got the USB one. It