Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
and accurate oven (10544) operation. Regards Roy -Original Message- From: Dave M Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:01 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO There is a section in the HP5334 Service manual on changes needed. The oscillator uses either

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
cool. Regards Roy -Original Message- From: Rick Karlquist Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:43 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO Roy Phillips wrote: Mark By chance I have just today installed a recently acquired

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
Thanks to Dave and Randall - - yes I did discover the change-over instructions, and hope to make the change over the week-end. Roy -Original Message- From: Dave M Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:01 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

[time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Allwright, Mark
Hello. I recently bough an HP-5334B counter with option 010 from the big E. A Google search seems to indicate the OCXO should be a 10811 type OCXO but mine has a type 10544. Other than taking longer to warm up does anybody see any problems with this? Basic testing shows the unit seems to

[time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread ed breya
I think the 10811 was the newer improved replacement for the 10544, with the same connections and external signals, and a little better performance. In that era of equipment you may see either one. They should be interchangeable, and the manuals and specs for both are readily available. Ed

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Karlquist
Hi Mark, I was the project manager for the 5334B counter. A rule at HP was that all 10544 sockets are required to work OK with a 10811 plugged in. There is no rule about the other way around, however its likely to be workable. The 10544 was long out of production in 1987 when the 5334B was

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Dave M
Hello. I recently bough an HP-5334B counter with option 010 from the big E. A Google search seems to indicate the OCXO should be a 10811 type OCXO but mine has a type 10544. Other than taking longer to warm up does anybody see any problems with this? Basic testing shows the unit seems to

[time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Sims
I have had several HP-5370's with the 10544 oscillator. They consistently have much less long term frequency drift than the 10811's. If they have not been powered on for a long time, they do take a couple of months of power-on aging before they settle in.

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Bill Riches
10544 is cool - earlier version than the 10811. Just make sure that the unit is getting warm - some of them have had oven controller problems - but haven't we all??!! Regards, Bill Riches WA2DVU -. Hello. I recently bough an HP-5334B counter with option 010 from the big E. A Google

[time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread ed breya
Could it be that since they are much older (on average) than the 10811s, that (if they've been running) they would have much more accumulated time, so in a more stable part of the long term drift curve? Ed Mark Sims wrote Mon Jan 30 18:50:36 UTC 2012 I have had several HP-5370's with the

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Karlquist
ed breya wrote: Could it be that since they are much older (on average) than the 10811s, that (if they've been running) they would have much more accumulated time, so in a more stable part of the long term drift curve? Ed This argument is frequently advanced, however there is no guarantee

[time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Arthur Dent
Other than taking longer to warm up does anybody see any problems with this?  Basic testing shows the unit seems to work OK.  It is reading 1.7 Hz low compared to my Thunderbolt at 10 MHz - I have not tried adjusting the trimmer on the 10544 yet. Comments and thoughts appreciated. Regards.

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Roy Phillips
be appreciated. Regards Roy -- From: Allwright, Mark mark_allwri...@kindermorgan.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:02 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO Hello. I recently bough an HP-5334B counter with option 010 from

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Randall Prentice
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO Mark By chance I have just today installed a recently acquired 10554 OCXO into my HP 5334B Counter. Its has been running for 5 hours and is yet to stabilize - my Manual suggest that 24 hours is the required time. Despite reading the manual, I

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Karlquist
Roy Phillips wrote: Mark By chance I have just today installed a recently acquired 10554 OCXO into my HP 5334B Counter. Its has been running for 5 hours and is yet to stabilize - my Manual suggest that 24 hours is the required time. Despite reading the manual, I cannot see any reference to

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Karlquist
Arthur Dent wrote:  At http://home.teleport.com/~oldaker/10mhz_construction.htm which has TAPR info, I found this description of the differences. If you have a Thunderbolt or rubidium to feed in to replace the internal oscillator, or you're not concerned about leaving the oven energized

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Dave M
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO Mark By chance I have just today installed a recently acquired 10554 OCXO into my HP 5334B Counter. Its has been running for 5 hours and is yet to stabilize - my Manual suggest that 24 hours is the required time. Despite reading the manual, I

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-01-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
I think the 10811 was the newer improved replacement for the 10544, with the same connections and external signals, and a little better performance. In that era of equipment you may see either one. They should be interchangeable, and the manuals and specs for both are readily available. Ed