Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-10 Thread John Miles
Did you ever run any tests on those UCT double oven OCXOs? Only to the extent of running a short (10-minute) HDEV test after a ~2 hour warmup, to see if it was capable of anything interesting near t=10s to t=30s. It showed about 2E-12, and the PN was nothing special, so I didn't do anything

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-10 Thread Don @ True-Cal
- Original Message - From: John Miles To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level? Did you ever run any tests on those UCT double oven OCXOs? Only to the extent of running

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
Don't be afraid and open up your MV89. I have done this with many MV201 without problems. On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I just powered up one of my MV89A's and measured ~7 dBm into my HP 8920B, but as Tom has mentioned some MV89A's develop a dry joint

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It's a solder seal can and if you have the right gear it comes open easy. If you happen to have a 1KW RF induction heater they are very easy to open. If by the odd chance you don't have one of those, a nice big soldering iron (or two) can come in handy. Solder wick and working your way

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Stan, W1LE
Would it be better to apply heat the metal shell or to apply heat the bottom part with the I/O pins ? I would start using a propane gas torch. Heating quickly till I saw the solder flow. Stan, W1LECape Cod On 2/9/2012 6:04 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Don't be afraid and open up your MV89.

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
I use a hot gun directing heat on the soldered edge. Use a soldering iron and the solder wick as suggested gives the best result, in my opinion. It helps if more than 1 working around the OCXO as at some moment you have to use one or two pins to lift the bottom cover using pliers. I have done this

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Sam
If you do open it up Scott, Don't forget to take some photos of the guts of it. I wouldn't mind seeing inside one of these. Sam ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: ...but as Tom has mentioned some MV89A's develop a dry joint around the output bypass capacitor Now that I think of it, it is surprising to me that OCXOs even work. About the worst thing you can do to kill the

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Camp
-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:47 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level? Would it be better to apply heat the metal shell or to apply heat

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Camp
: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: ...but as Tom has mentioned some MV89A's develop a dry joint around the output bypass capacitor Now that I think of it, it is surprising to me that OCXOs even work. About

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Are you worried about phase noise at 100 Hz and above (Trimble OCXO) or about sort term stability at 1 to 100 seconds (MV89)? Two different things, and you don't get both at the same time on the crop of what's up for auction at

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Scott Newell
At 11:20 AM 2/9/2012, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I would avoid super heat type approaches. The risk is getting the glass to metal seals on the base to hot to fast. Normally the can needs more heat than the base, but not always. A lot depends on just how thick each one is and what they are made of.

[time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Sims
John, Did you ever run any tests on those UCT double oven OCXOs? I've found them to be freaky-stable long term. I have retrofitted a lot of Tek DC510/5010 counters with them and after over two years, the last digit is still right on. They are capable of great

[time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-08 Thread Scott Newell
Got my replacement FE-5680 and a MV89 in from Nichegeek. I figured I'd better power up and check the MV89 before I let 'em know everything was ok. The MV89 is warming up nicely, the current is down to 290 mA (and still dropping), but the output seems low; about 40 mV RMS as measured on a

[time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-08 Thread Tom Miller
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Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-08 Thread Erno Peres
Hi Nevell, FYI my one delivers almost +5dBm on 50 Ohm.Ref Voltage +4,86 Volt. Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Scott Newell newell+timen...@n5tnl.com To: time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 5:16 am Subject: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level? Got my

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89 output level?

2012-02-08 Thread Sam
I just powered up one of my MV89A's and measured ~7 dBm into my HP 8920B, but as Tom has mentioned some MV89A's develop a dry joint around the output bypass capacitor http://www.hellocq.net/forum/showthread.php?t=283551 What is the date and revision number on yours? I have 2 here 07/34 and