Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-18 Thread Ulrich Bangert
measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401 So we are on the same page You tie the reset through a 1 K r to vcc and you still see the reset signal? And you do not see the 7 Khz coming from the switching regulator?? Thanks On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Ulrich Bangert df

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-18 Thread paul swed
: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401 It only resets the earth referenced micro (8051) on power up and when pulses on the optocoupler output arent present. There is no other connection to the reset pin of this micro. The floating logic is reset by the LM2925 5V

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-17 Thread Ulrich Bangert
-Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Bruce Griffiths Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 22:46 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401 It only

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-17 Thread paul swed
- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Bruce Griffiths Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 22:46 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401 It only resets the earth

[time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, I own a dead HP34401. On switching it on the display stays dark. It will however react on pressing the SHIFT key. By changing pcbs against a working one the display board has shown to be ok. There must be a problem with the main board. Without knowing whats inside the ASICs make

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread paul swed
Ulrich, Yes indeed modern stuff is tough. I believe what you are seeing is a dead man timer. The system is not booting correctly, times out and resets and the process keeps going. Typically a good place to look is at the interrupt lines to see what is triggering the behavior. If neither of these

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Ulrich Bangert wrote: Gentlemen, I own a dead HP34401. On switching it on the display stays dark. It will however react on pressing the SHIFT key. By changing pcbs against a working one the display board has shown to be ok. There must be a problem with the main board. Without knowing whats

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread paul swed
Two comments the manuals available on agilent What on earth is a crossguard? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Ulrich Bangert wrote: Gentlemen, I own a dead HP34401. On switching it on the display stays dark. It will however react on

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
paul swed wrote: Two comments the manuals available on agilent What on earth is a crossguard? Crossguard comms (Agilents term) refers to the optoisolators used for serial communication between the floating and earth referenced logic sections. Bruce

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
At 21:40 11/12/2012, you wrote: Two comments the manuals available on agilent What on earth is a crossguard? Data exchange between a floating, guarded circuit and a ground referenced one? Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread paul swed
OK but why would it tie to the reset line? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Marco IK1ODO -2 ik1...@spin-it.com wrote: At 21:40 11/12/2012, you wrote: Two comments the manuals available on agilent What on earth is a crossguard? Data exchange between a floating, guarded circuit and a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread steve heidmann
  Long shot remedy : There is a front pannel push button sequence to turn off/on the display. --- On Tue, 12/11/12, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: From: Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401 To: Time nuts time-nuts@febo.com Date

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Question on dead HP34401

2012-12-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
It only resets the earth referenced micro (8051) on power up and when pulses on the optocoupler output arent present. There is no other connection to the reset pin of this micro. The floating logic is reset by the LM2925 5V regulator reset output. There is no connection to this reset line aprt