Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-29 Thread Chris Albertson
On this product people are going to want holes drilled and I think a "D" shape hole for the DB type connector. The holes would allow easy clamping but in a two step operation.If I were making these I'd first clamp the stock over a pair of 123 blocks, mill the holes, then after I hade a batch

[time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-29 Thread Mark Sims
I'd say screw the gasket / inset crud and go with flat stock or pcb material (my Star-4 GPSDO came in a very similar housing and uses PCB endplates. It's much easier and cheaper. I doubt that very many people will be installing these outdoors, etc and need the fancy pants end plates and

[time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-29 Thread Mark Sims
OSHPARK has made several boards for me with cutouts. You put the cutout on the milling layer and they recommend putting the word "CUTOUT" within the cutout area. It's been a few years since I had any made that way... best to ask them. Also inquire about the milling bit radius... you can't

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Art Sepin
Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Hancock Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:20 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Is there a way I can help with this p

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Larry McDavid
I earlier sent Jerry a copy of the pdf that contains the drawings of the two end plates and we have corresponded briefly about his process. I have told Steve WB0DBS I will buy two sets of the two end plates. Yes, I could fabricate these but the real ones are die cast and have a sealing gasket

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Apr 28, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Dave Mallery wrote: > > hi > > i posted much earlier. status: the M12 works wonderfully with lady heather > v5 from mark sims. mine has completed its 48 hour precision survey and is > purring along. > > so far, i have had trouble

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Van Horn, David
Milling internally and externally to the perimeter of the board is a price adder, but is routinely done and not expensive. I've done round PCBs with large, oddly shaped "round" holes in the middle, impossible to drill. I've done PCBs where the outer corners had to be milled to a specific

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Dave Mallery
hi i posted much earlier. status: the M12 works wonderfully with lady heather v5 from mark sims. mine has completed its 48 hour precision survey and is purring along. so far, i have had trouble with the serial to usb converter i picked up. the one on my other pi3/Tbolt rig runs fine. can

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Well … keep in mind that my plan was to print the parts I need :) It sounds like there are enough people interested to get an order going for a couple dozen sets. I’d guess more interest in a fully hogged out set than in the “drill it yourself” approach. That assumes the cost does not go

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Hancock
One other point, if you have the plates and just need them milled, that is pretty easy work. I could make the model from the drawings and then just run them off. The only challenge is that something always goes wrong no matter how careful I am so ideally, it would be best to be able to

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Hancock
I would mill them for the price of shipping just to help out. It would take about 10 minutes of setup and machining for the front panel and maybe a little longer for the back. I could do two dozen pretty quickly on a weekend afternoon. I mill keyed BNC and DBx connectors all the time. >

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Hancock
do they need to be inset as in the drawing or will a flat piece of aluminum work? I have some .25 thick aluminum. I could mill a pocket which would add to the design and then mill the holes for the components. That would take more machine time is all. Generally, the way I mill plates such

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
> > NB, I don't work for a fab house, nor have I ever toured one. > > Bob > > > > From: Bob kb8tq <kb...@n1k.org> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 1:06 PM > Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The dimensions, including the holes that need to be CNC’d into the plates are attached an earlier message in this thread. The main link is: http://www.synergy-gps.com/index.php?option=com_content=view=54=73 The dimensions

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Hancock
Is there a way I can help with this project? If I had the specs to look at, maybe I would be able to run off a bunch of plates. If we could batch them up I would do them for the cost of shipping. Does anyone have a dimensioned print, picture, cad drawing of the plates? > On Apr 28, 2017,

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob Stewart
for a fab house, nor have I ever toured one. Bob From: Bob kb8tq <kb...@n1k.org> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Hi If you go with the

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Gregory Beat
I received a response from Karl Kvick at Digi-Key, they will not be stocking this specific model or part (panels). Greg w9gb Sent from iPad Air > On Apr 28, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: > > I have an e-mail inquiry at Digi-Key (Friday), > since they are a US

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread jimlux
On 4/28/17 10:09 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi If you go with the PCB approach, the nice thing is getting stuff like the slot for the D connector done at the PCB fab. That way you have something that drops right in and works. The downside is that not every pcb house is happy doing that sort of “CNC

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
gps.com/index.php?option=com_content; >> task=view=54=73 >>> >>> Art >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of >> Gregory Beat >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:48 AM

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Chris Albertson
Original Message- > > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of > Gregory Beat > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:48 AM > > To: Larry McDavid <lmcda...@lmceng.com>; time-nuts@febo.com > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ k

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Philip Gladstone
: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Message-ID: <802e38ff-adca-435f-866d-f821c6223...@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, To add to the excellent information Art has provided - I spoke with Candice Rincon at Phoenix Mecano and just received a quote from her

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Norm n3ykf
gt; N6BYU > > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 09:56:55 +0100 > From: Steve - Home <steve-kr...@cox.net> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit > Message-ID: <802e38ff-adca-435f-866d-

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
index.php?option=com_content=view=54=73 >> >> Art >> >> -Original Message- >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Beat >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:48 AM >> To: Larry McDavid <lmcda...@lmceng.com>

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Stan
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Message-ID: <802e38ff-adca-435f-866d-f821c6223...@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, To add to the excellent information Art has provided - I spoke with Candice Rincon at Phoenix Mecano and just received a quote fr

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Steve - Home
- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Beat > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:48 AM > To: Larry McDavid <lmcda...@lmceng.com>; time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit > > Larry - > > Interface Bo

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-27 Thread Art Sepin
me-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Larry - Interface Boards for Motorola (and Garmin) receivers have been discussed (and sold) by TAPR since late 1990s. TAPR archives all of this documentation, for discontinued GPS kits, can be seen on the left marg

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-22 Thread Dave Mallery
Hi Mark I was delighted to read about Heather's ability to talk to a timing M12. I have been having fits here trying to get the M12 to accept any command (using Perl.. a mistake it seems). i wanted to end up with a Linux capable utility and had previously used Perl to parse NEMA on my old TAC2.

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-22 Thread Dave Mallery
amazing. especially after a week of effort. thank you. dave On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dave Mallery wrote: > Hi Mark > > I was delighted to read about Heather's ability to talk to a timing M12. > I have been having fits here trying to get the M12 to accept any

[time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-22 Thread Mark Sims
Earlier somebody asked if these were M12's or M12T's.I powered mine up and connected it to Lady Heather. It appears to be an M12T. It responds to the survey and position hold commands and outputs the sawtooth correction value. Also the hardware ID returned is P373T12T12.

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-21 Thread Gregory Beat
Motorola Oncore VP/UT+/GT+ Interface Board SemiKit by McKinney Technology Instructions and Schematic diagram by Doug McKinney, KC3RL (SK, 2006) http://www.tapr.org/pdf/vpguib.pdf greg w9gb Sent from iPad Air > On Mar 28, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Gregory Beat wrote: > > Larry - > >

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-06 Thread Dave Mallery
... an hour later... of course, the power was reversed!!! positive now pin 8 on the DB9 going to the mobo. perhaps i should go back to writing software! suitably humiliated. 73 dave - k5en On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Dave Mallery wrote: > hi > > after carefully

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-06 Thread Dave Mallery
hi after carefully crafting the suggested db9mf cable (with 16vdc on 7 & 8+) i powered up, but no green led... the db9 to chassis seems ok. but am still engaged. there is no voltage across the backup battery (the holder seems slightly bent). the lack of a schematic for the mobo is a big

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-06 Thread Dan Rae
Worth looking closely at these if you've bought one. On mine, apart from the connector to the DB9 being pulled off and some pins bent, which I could fix, there are two tiny SM ceramic caps that have been knocked off the M12 GPS board, both hanging by one of the detached PC traces. This I

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-31 Thread Art Sepin
Norm n3ykf Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:11 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit Bob, Couldn't find a part number on the .jpg of the gps rx to to cross reference. Have a few +T's. Don't need another

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-30 Thread Norm n3ykf
Bob, Couldn't find a part number on the .jpg of the gps rx to to cross reference. Have a few +T's. Don't need another timing rx. Would take a few positioning rx's as the M12+ units are good for balloon launches. Reads out >65535ft. See top comment. Norm n3ykf On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:33 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-30 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi At least from a quick read of the TAPR page it’s not real clear if the GPS modules are M12+T or just M12+ boards. I believe that if they don’t have the T on the end, they don’t have sawtooth / PPS (?). Bob > On Mar 30, 2017, at 2:11 AM, Mike Cook wrote: > > I would

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-30 Thread Mike Cook
I would like to add mention of the M12+ interface board that Tom Wimmenhove offered on this list. I am using them to lock PRS10s. Very happy with it. Here is a link to some of his performance measurements. < http://tomwimmenhove.com/otherstuff/Oncore/ > > Le 28 mars 2017 à 20:47, Gregory Beat

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-28 Thread Gregory Beat
TAPR list of experimenter kit "parts" Housing without end plates Synergy manual (hyperlink on TAPR kit page) "GPS receiver and required support electronics in a robust, IP68 rated (IP65) extruded aluminum housing." Synergy purchased that extruded aluminum housing case: 3.22” W x 5.10” L x 1.37”

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-28 Thread Gregory Beat
Larry - Interface Boards for Motorola (and Garmin) receivers have been discussed (and sold) by TAPR since late 1990s. TAPR archives all of this documentation, for discontinued GPS kits, can be seen on the left margin. https://www.tapr.org/gps_exp-kit.html Tom Clark, W3IWI Total Accurate Clock

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-27 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi That’s a very good price for what it is !! Bob > On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Gregory Beat wrote: > > The TAPR offering is a "partial kit" from the Synergy's SynPaQ/E product. > Here is that data sheet: >

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-27 Thread Gregory Beat
The TAPR offering is a "partial kit" from the Synergy's SynPaQ/E product. Here is that data sheet: http://www.synergy-gps.com/images/stories/pdf/synpaq%20product%20data%20sheet%20040110.pdf Blank aluminum end-plates can be fabricated, or purchased from the OEM supplier. w9gb Sent from iPad Air

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-27 Thread Norm n3ykf
M12+ or M12+T? There are two different versions of firmware, same hardware. The M12+ does NMEA and Moto bin, the +T does Moto Bin only. Norm n3ykf On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > TAPR has announced a new kit that may be of some interest here: > >

[time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-03-27 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
TAPR has announced a new kit that may be of some interest here: https://www.tapr.org/gps_exp-kit.html It's certainly well worth the $30. --msa ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to