Re: [time-nuts] My DIY frequency counter and a request for help

2010-03-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Gerard, Gerard PG5G wrote: I have had a few replies, both on list and off list, including some offers for help and some suggestions regarding the capabilities of my counter. Thanks to everyone who took the time to write. I understand from various replies I had that I cannot measure ADEV the

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I checked a few newer RPD-1's (actually MPD-1's, but I believe they are the same thing). The two ones I have here from who knows where have about 20% more output (2.4 V p-p) than a typical unit (2.0 V p-p). Bob On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Whilst your corrected

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10638A degausser

2010-03-04 Thread wje
I did the replacement degausser you found the zip file for. I use it for my 5061s quite successfully. It fairly closely duplicates the time and current profiles used by the original. If you have any questions, please ask. Bill Ezell -- They said 'Windows or better' so I used Linux.

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Perhaps they changed the diodes used in MPD/RPD phase detectors over the years. Minicircuits also make a ZP10514 which may use monolithic quad diodes. These may be noisier at 100Hz offset than the genuine HP10514. Bruce Bob Camp wrote: Hi I checked a few newer RPD-1's (actually MPD-1's,

[time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Don Collie jnr
I`m not sure that questions like these is welcome on this list, but here goes anyway : 1/ What are the the 10 sources of the most constant [invariant] frequencies known to man, in order of decreacing constancy? Four immediately come to mind. 2/ What is the mechanism in an oscillator, that is

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C (?) antennna in low sun

2010-03-04 Thread paul swed
So many people think antennas are ugly Its in the eye of the beholder And the creativity of the person taking the pix Really nicely done. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I wonder if the no antennas covenants on my lot cover one of those modern sculptures ?

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The best answer to the second one is That depends. There are *lots* of different oscillators out there. Earth - sun, Helium atom floating in space ... Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Collie jnr Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Termination

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Looks a lot like what they do in most of their packaged mixers. Standard product, a PCB, and a housing. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:16 AM To:

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
1/ There are no sources of constant frequency. Approximations to that goal may be measured by their cost. 2/ There is no single mechanism, unless it's quantum mechanics. Bill Hawkins This message has been fact checked by a 9 year old with a Twitter account. -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
I`m not sure that questions like these is welcome on this list, but here goes anyway : 1/ What are the the 10 sources of the most constant [invariant] frequencies known to man, in order of decreacing constancy? Four immediately come to mind. 2/ What is the mechanism in an oscillator, that is

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Tom: In the last slide you show a sand timer. Do you have accuracy data for it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Tom Van Baak wrote: I`m not sure that questions like these is welcome on this list, but here goes anyway : 1/ What are the the 10 sources of the most constant

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations

2010-03-04 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 03/03/2010 10:56:46 PM: From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: 03/03/2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations Sent by:

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The specifications for the maximum output given on the datasheet are so wide that the 20% higher than typical beat frequency amplitude may well be within spec. The RPD-1's were being over driven by about 2.5dBm or so, which would also tend to increase the output. A test made with 500 ohms to

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Mixer Terminations

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Camp
HI In other words the hard part of the task still remains to be done. Bob On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: The specifications for the maximum output given on the datasheet are so wide that the 20% higher than typical beat frequency amplitude may well be within spec.

[time-nuts] For Bruce Lane...

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Sims
Hello Bruce, I tried to send you an email directly, but your spam filtering seems to be getting in the way again. Ebay item 150418469678 has a Magellan 5000 GPS board on it... might be handy to have a spare for your unit. It is from an Odetics unit. Mark

Re: [time-nuts] For Bruce Lane...

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
In the last slide you show a sand timer. Do you have accuracy data for it? Hi Brooke, The past 3 hours the one hour timer measures 56:24, 56:19, and 56:30. That's at 67 F room temp. Somewhere I have enough clean data to compute the ADEV; it's more stable than accurate. It also has a tempco