[time-nuts] new gps sat prn30 svn64

2014-03-06 Thread tom jones
I've done the math subtracting both skips and my clock bias's and frequency drifts from sirf msg30 (prn30) that were posted on timenuts earlier this week; 1.3331348485e-006 3.6930953087e-012 my data 1.3294251003e-006 3.6977287551e-012 skips .0037097482e-006 -.0046334464e-012

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
https://www.febo.com/pages/gps_pps/ It appears the implementation of the sawtooth error correction severely degrades the performance of the system. There could be many reasons, which is why it is important to nail down as many of the error sources as possible. severely degrades??

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
Tom and Bob, It is not obvious to me that it is easier to simply apply a correction in nS increments with a range as wide as 100nS. How is this done? Using switched delay lines or delay gates? Didier, If you intend to measure the 1PPS there is no need to correct or adjust it prior to

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Agree. If you steer so you keep to be off frequency so you have plenty of sawtooth you get better resolution. I've been pondering about maybe write an article to illustrate the effect. Cheers, Magnus On 04/03/14 23:45, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Be careful of what you wish for. One way to

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, You still get hanging bridges, but smaller in amplitude and for the same oscillator stability much more short-lived. Cheers, Magnus On 06/03/14 00:03, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you are going to decode and use the sawtooth data out of the receiver, there’s no need to eliminate the hanging

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In modern GPS modules the sawtooth error is no longer truncated at the 1 ns level. The have been giving you far more resolution than that for 10 years now. The resolution is not just useless bits. If you compare the result to a cesium standard they do improve the GPS. Bob On Mar 6, 2014,

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
To the Mike that posted: http://www.pst.netii.net/patents.htm - I tried going to your site - can't reach it. Is the site operational? I wanted to take a look at your patents. Thanks, John Westmoreland On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi In modern GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-06 Thread David J Taylor
To the Mike that posted: http://www.pst.netii.net/patents.htm - I tried going to your site - can't reach it. Is the site operational? I wanted to take a look at your patents. Thanks, John Westmoreland == Jon, It's working OK from Edinburgh at 07:08 UTC.