Re: [time-nuts] Need help with transformer core

2014-08-31 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Attila Any opinion or observation on Mean Well's SD series, they are a key component on most of our projects. Bert Kehren In a message dated 8/31/2014 6:51:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 01:58:40 + Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Need help with transformer core

2014-08-31 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Aug 2014 07:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Bert Kehren via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Any opinion or observation on Mean Well's SD series, they are a key component on most of our projects. I never had the pleasure to measure any of the Mean Well DC/DC converters. Looking at their spec, they seem

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-09-04 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Tom Thank you for the information on the OSA 3210 This is what I know. OSA 3000 is the Cs module only with three OCXO versions B-5400, 8602 and 8612. All the pictures and information I have seen and the modules that I have, show identical boards and assemblies. I am not aware of a later

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-09-04 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
, On 09/04/2014 12:56 PM, Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: Tom Thank you for the information on the OSA 3210 This is what I know. OSA 3000 is the Cs module only with three OCXO versions B-5400, 8602 and 8612. Later versions of the OSA 3000 also had 8613. I have seen 8613 and 8602.11 myself

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-09-08 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Can you post a picture of the board Bert Miami In a message dated 9/8/2014 2:20:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, adrian.valentin.constantine...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I have a OSA-5585 cesium PRS and it is not working. On the local manager i have a cesium module alarm. I opened it and

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard

2014-09-08 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
or send it off list if you can not compress it. Bert In a message dated 9/8/2014 2:20:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, adrian.valentin.constantine...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I have a OSA-5585 cesium PRS and it is not working. On the local manager i have a cesium module alarm. I opened it

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Voltage Input? (Bob Camp)

2014-09-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I have on purpose stayed out of this discussions but I think it is time to mention some benchmarks. Last year we did a work over of the Shera controller when we where allowed to release assembly and hex code. In order to make sure that the code was solid we ran extensive tests using a 1 pps

Re: [time-nuts] Hi all

2014-09-15 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Jason, we just did one using the ublox at 1 KHz and I have some boards extra so if you contact me off list I will gladly send you some data and schematic .Can be modified for 10 KHz. Bert Miami In a message dated 9/15/2014 9:46:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ja...@ball.net writes: I

[time-nuts] Trimble P/N 28367-00 Antenna Info

2014-09-16 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Trying to help a friend with a ublox using an external antenna. Does any one know what the voltage range on this antenna is. Trimble P/N 28367-00 Thank you Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Any simple way to get 200 MHz from 10 MHz?

2014-09-28 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
In my opinion the simplest and cheapest way is to use an ICS 570 it is specked for 180 MHz but we use it repeatedly at 200 MHz. Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/28/2014 6:37:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p...@phk.freebsd.dk writes: In message

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Bob we are using digital mixers in some other applications but what surprised me is your comment on the Riley DMTD. We have a couple of slightly modified Riley's and see any where from 1.44 to 3.84 E-14 at 1 second. Bill also sows data below 1 E-13 at 1 second. Presently looking at braking

Re: [time-nuts] Wine cooler as temperature chamber

2014-10-14 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Attached a picture hope it goes through Bert Kehren You can, however, make large stacks of Peltier coolers, hot to cool, and cool them down to liquid air temperatures. This is done on very low noise LNA's. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Take a look at Potato chips yes Potato I have used them with good results Bert Kehren 330551715157 In a message dated 10/15/2014 6:44:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@n1k.org writes: Hi Most ECL families have more trouble with 1/F noise than fast silicon saturated

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite module

2014-10-19 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
With all the work around if you want very good performance use a Shera. We have super results with a Morion, Shera and ublox M7 Bert Kehren In a message dated 10/19/2014 4:08:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@n1k.org writes: Hi On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Charles Steinmetz

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite module

2014-10-19 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We did the same using a 1 KHz out of the $ 14 ubolx M7 and a Morion . Results better than 1 E-10. Some time nuts are now assembling and testing the same. Total cost less than $ 10 not counting OCXO or GPS. Most expensive item is the filter capacitor. Bert Kehren In a message dated

[time-nuts] GPSDO versus GPSPLL

2014-10-20 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Having build GPSDO's since Brooks came out with his in QST I learned a few things and always worked on improving its performance And hopefully the FE 405B project that lasted over nine month will top any thing in GPSDO's. The FE5680A is nearing final Beta test and hopefully will soon be out

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite module

2014-10-20 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Allow me to clarify. I started out with 7 MV 89 one of it a total loss. The remaining 6 after 3 month + burn in show better than 1 E-11 aging per day, 2 closer to 5 E-12. Only two have been tested for ADEV and are close to 1 E-12, 2X not 10 X. Bert Kehren In a message dated 10/20/2014

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz Rubidium reference source for frequency counter

2014-10-26 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Karen To a large degree it depends on what you want to use it for. HP 5065 is considered top of the line and PRS 10 is a very nice Rb but lately I have seen lamp oscillator failures. I like FRK, well documented easy to modify and if done right super performance. As part of a GPSDO project

Re: [time-nuts] float chargers for oscillator backup power

2014-10-26 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Living in south Florida backup power is short term and long term. As lab batteries I use T 105 also known as Golf Cart batteries. Costco has those 6 Volt 200+A batteries for less than $ 80. Super price. Yes I have Costco stock. For charging I use a VIctron Energy Phoenix 12 V 30 A charger.

Re: [time-nuts] Mercury Ion Clock

2014-11-02 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I respectfully disagree. Before getting totally submerged in time nuts issues I did extensive work on signal sources up to 40 GHz as a hobby. So I have since the early 90's sweeper, synthesizer, power meter, mixer for the HP 7 series, attenuates and most important frequency counter and

Re: [time-nuts] Mercury Ion Clock

2014-11-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk writes: On 3 Nov 2014 02:59, Bert Kehren via time-nuts _time-nuts@febo.com_ (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com) wrote: I respectfully disagree. Before getting totally submerged in time nuts issues I did extensive work on signal sources up to 40 GHz as a hobby. So I have since the early 90's

Re: [time-nuts] Divide by five

2014-11-08 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We do most our projects with Altera G/A. The biggest benefit is that if something does not work on first pass changing the G/A logic is much faster, less costly than a new board layout. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/8/2014 6:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kb...@n1k.org writes: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 antenna trick

2014-11-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I did it at the antenna connector at the front panel for the reason that you just stated. At the same time I inserted a SMA connector since all my cables and splitters are SMA. There is a pinout for SMA. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/9/2014 8:28:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Joe It is not clear to me what your goal is. Simplicity, cost or performance. A PLL based on 1 pps is not optimum. I call this approach GPSPLL versus GPSDO. Thanks to work done by Karen in Moscow I found out that you can program a $14 ublox M7 to frequencies above 1 KHz. If you use 200 KHz

Re: [time-nuts] Quad Driven Mixer 5 to 10 MHz Doubler Article

2014-11-13 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We are using Wenzel with two filters see attached if it will pass. 20 Mhz is down more than 60 db and 5 MHz 55. Distribution Amp takes care of the rest. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/12/2014 8:13:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dgmin...@mediacombb.net writes: Just a few days

Re: [time-nuts] 10811

2014-11-17 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I ground one side of the tuning diode and use the 2 to 12 V as the external OCXO for my FRK's along with increasing the time constant. I have not verified it but I think removing the zener Voltage should also improve ADEV. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/17/2014 8:46:34 P.M. Eastern

Re: [time-nuts] RFTG-u REF 0 Z3812 as cleanup module for FEI5680A

2014-11-18 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I would not mess with the power management of the unit, HP did know what they where doing. Any clean up I would move off the unit if you want to stay with the same OCXO you have one in the second unit. As to phase noise before time nuts issues took up all my time low noise signal generators

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 24V DC power requirements

2014-11-21 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I think Bob mentioned it before Laptop power supplies make good power sources. Older units like in my case an old Dell 20V 3.5 A is perfect. They still have plenty of input and output filtering and build for lomg term operation. Never throw away a laptop supply. Late models are lower power

Re: [time-nuts] anyone tried the cheap Lea-6T modules seen on eBay?

2014-11-25 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
A Lea-6T is only worth any extra money if you are using the sawtooth correction data coming out of it. With out correction a $ 14 unit is just as good. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/25/2014 11:25:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.c...@sfr.fr writes: You may have seen them as

Re: [time-nuts] What's best an HP 58503A, Z3805A, or Z3801A upgraded to 58503A?

2014-11-30 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I would not buy any of them unless I want a HP case on the bench. They are all used! The present Lucent unit is HP and you get two for the price of $ 150 will do the best job for you. They are new and with all the activities presently going on at time nuts you may well end up with mods like

Re: [time-nuts] What's best an HP 58503A, Z3805A, or Z3801A upgraded to 58503A?

2014-11-30 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Rob attached is a picture of the case with the lucent in it. Just to make sure it fits. I use these cases extensively and have gotten some in the past for my Swiss friend. I have two tbolts in them and in one case have fan control. Use an analog temp. control with 12 V fan. Where and how

Re: [time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Oncore m12+t PPS sawtooth correction board.

2014-12-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
In the recent past I did offer a board and parts for some one to take on the PIC programming for a saw tooth correction board. No takers.My offer still stands. One of our tem members has a nice working unit in PIC Basic not understanding code it does how ever look very simple. I think what

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-45 Cs Standard

2014-12-06 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Provided the unit works one simple way to get an idea as to the health of the tube is to insert a plain multi meter in the 200 mV position. That inserts a 10 M resistor in series and you can calculate beam current. Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/5/2014 8:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-06 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I am looking forward to long term data on the Lucent unit. GPSDO's are getting closer and closer to Cesium. Having worked for 18 month on two GPSDO projects we find that the limiting factors are the Cesium Standards. Working presently on a Cesium GPSDO. Short term OCXO, medium Rb and long

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-06 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Be careful you are touching on two subjects that can turn in to long lasting discussions. Legal shipping will be very expensive and rebuilding tubes has been looked at in the past but short of a sophisticated lab in Russia I doubt it could be done, the real issue who would buy one people

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-07 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We are concentrating on FRK and M 100 but as I mentioned we have been sidetracked by GPSDO work for the FE 5680A and FE 405B for the past 18 month. We just got back to our RB's and today I did finish the GPSDO board for the FRK and M 100. These are analog and have a place to insert in the

Re: [time-nuts] Linear voltage regulator hints...

2014-12-08 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We solved that problem by attaching the regulators to the FRK back plate which is with fan control is kept within 0.01C. We did not do it for that purpose but found that we needed some more heat in order to keep the fan in an optimum fan speed. Rb, OCXO and Fan power transistor are on the

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-45A is alive!

2014-12-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
16 Minutes is normal. First FTS tubes do not leak as much as the old HP tubes. Second the seller most likely did run a test which means the tube was pumped down. Unless there is software that tells beam current the only way I know to get some idea of health of tube is as I mentioned before

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
With the exception of the HP 5065 where the Rb cell actually is the ADEV contributor as Corby has repeatedly demonstrated with tests and if you check the filter time constant. Most Rb's will be well served with a cleanup OCXO. The PRS 10 has good performance as is, but is limited by DAC

Re: [time-nuts] Errors on HP 58503A GPS time frequency reference receiver b...

2014-12-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
who did you buy it from? In a message dated 12/11/2014 4:47:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk writes: On 11 December 2014 at 01:10, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi I suspect that if you look closely at the board in the unit, it’s got water stains on it ….

Re: [time-nuts] Errors on HP 58503A GPS time frequency reference receiver b...

2014-12-13 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Ebay does not protect buyers and it is understandable. Look at the # of your buys and the # of the seller. I can tell you horror stories and in the case of _ggg*fitting_ (http://www.ebay.com/usr/ggg*fitting?_trksid=p2047675.l2559) when I posted a negative review refused me a refund after I

Re: [time-nuts] Connections for FE-5680A rubidium sources

2014-12-16 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I suggest you go to http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/ back a couple of years and you will find every thing you ever want to know about the FE 5680A. Similar to the recent Lucent activity Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/16/2014 7:21:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Re: [time-nuts] Milliren 260-0544-C

2015-01-07 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Are those not the ones that have no EFC In a message dated 1/7/2015 3:02:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, erm1ea...@ermione.com writes: Hello! I would like to buy 4 or 5 Milliren 260-0544-C from Excess Solutions as it was discussed 22 october 2014, but their shipping rates are really

Re: [time-nuts] GPS disciplined FE5680A

2015-11-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
The GPSDO is alive and well. We have run and are running in excess of 15 units in Beta test on FE 5680, 5650 and 405 with very good results. There are several reasons for the release delay also doe to the fact that I have moved along with s a significant down sizing. I will not be in the kit

Re: [time-nuts] UBLOX LEA-5T Programming?

2015-10-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
The 1 pps and the output frequencies are all derived from the same XO in the module. Up to 7 the difference in a T is that the saw tooth correction factor is brought out for correction purposes . 7 has a much higher XO frequency than the 5 so the saw tooth is smaller. So use a ublox 7 if you

Re: [time-nuts] UBLOX LEA-5T Programming?

2015-10-10 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We did a GPS PLL using ublox M7 not for time nuts but for Hams no u processors, simple to build with readily available parts with performance of 1 E-10.. Hams still have get to gether and it would make sense to order the parts. Boards would be less than $ 2 in quantity 10. 5X5 cm board

[time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-05 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
At my new home the GPS antenna location has turned in to a challenge. May have to splice RG 6U. Has any one done measurements on couplings and the loss associated with them. Right now I am considering a female, female coupling. Is there a better alternative? Thanks Bert Kehren Palm City

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-05 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
harm, then consider installing an additional LNA inline with the antenna. Hope it sort itself out for you. Cheers, Magnus On 12/05/2015 09:28 PM, Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: > At my new home the GPS antenna location has turned in to a challenge. May > have to splice RG 6U. H

[time-nuts] FE 405/5680/5650 caution !!!!

2015-12-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
A word of caution. In the last three years we have experienced problems with the RS 232 interface. We know that wrong messages can contaminate the code in the controller permanently preventing lock. We suspect switch bounce or connect or disconnect while under power. With the cost of these

[time-nuts] One more info on FE 405

2015-12-12 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
The date coming with the units was plotted at 5 MHz using DD FF and EX OR divide by 3 with symmetrical output Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] FE 405/5680/5650 caution !!!!

2015-12-12 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Shortly after joining time-nuts on Corby's recommendation I announced that I wanted to build a complete Dual Mixer for less than $ 200. Richard McCorkle offered to help me with the code for the counters. After completion we started talking about GPSDO's which I had previously worked with

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO and oscillator steering - EFC vs DDS schemes?

2015-12-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Some of the suggestions offered here are incorporated in the FE 205/405/505. We have done extensive work using a 405 with very good results. Tom did some tests on the 406 and we traced issues back to the temperature control. We disabled it and continue to have an excellent GPSDO. Tests are

[time-nuts] Old HP power cord

2016-06-20 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Did finally complete my lab at the new location all instruments survived the move. As a result of downsizing found, that I have quite a few of the old oval shaped 3 pin power cords used by HP and Wavetek. Noticed them on ebay for $ 25 plus shipping. I will charge time nuts $ 15 shipping

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-25 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
ernal crystal in a VCO to clean it up before you multiply it > to 1200 MHz. > > And you can get up to four other frequencies out of the part at the same > time. > > 150 fs class jitter. > > $13 cost, quantity one. > > --- Graham > > == > > > > > &

[time-nuts] Racal Dana 1992 GPIB

2016-02-29 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Move, downsizing and clean up I ran across a GPIB adapter for the Racal Dan 1992. It is available to a time nut for the cost of shipping not for resale. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] R D 1992 GPIB is taken

2016-02-29 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5370B & HP5345B Front-End IC Redesign Effort

2016-01-25 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Getting back to the original question, years ago I was told but could not confirm that HP was buying up 5345's because of a Government commitment to replace front ends. If they had to go to such matters I doubt we will be able to find a solution. In my home counter work I tried but ended up

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-25 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Bruce > > > On Monday, 25 January 2016 11:00 AM, Bert Kehren via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > > > With all the discussions in a small 100 MHz source I asked my project > partner Juerg in Switzerland to run some data on the ICS 570 that we use on the > majo

Re: [time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-26 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
to head the pads the rest of the way to molten. No need for soldering irons. Practice on junk boards until it becomes natural. -Chuck Harris Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: > We have looked at the LMK devices but with my 74 years would not try to > solder it. There are other neat par

[time-nuts] low noise multiplication to 100 MHz

2016-01-24 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
With all the discussions in a small 100 MHz source I asked my project partner Juerg in Switzerland to run some data on the ICS 570 that we use on the majority of our projects with excellent results. Using the HP53132A we see + - 1 count at E10-11 ignore the large jumps those come from the

Re: [time-nuts] Best Rubidium Frequency Standard

2016-03-12 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Having used FRK for over 35 years I am partial to FRK/M100. More later. We have had some bad experience with PRS-10 failing lamp module and others have shared the same observation. Clear sign of oxidation and we know the unit has never been exposed to water! Back to FRK. Previously mentioned

Re: [time-nuts] Best Rubidium Frequency Standard

2016-03-12 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Corby the M100 have conformal coatings but non of the M100's that I have tested had potted Lamp modules. Conformal coating is a pain but so far all we have worked on is the coil section and scraper and brass brush did do the job. will send you off list pictures of a bad disassembled lamp

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Am I missing something? KISS. If you start out with a 10 MHz OCXO use a tvb PIC to divide down to a lower frequency a 74HC74 to get symmetrical output of a $ 10 u-blox 6 and the PIC and 86 XOR. If no PIC capability ebay has LS90's for a one off. Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/9/2016

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-09 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I do not know what U blox does but I know when we use 200 KHz out of the 1 pps output on a $ 10 ublox 6 we consistently get better than 1 E-10 closer to 1 E-11 out of the Morion have the data Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/9/2016 10:01:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@n1k.org

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-06 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Having been a time nut for almost 50 years knot knowing it I like to add my thoughts. Starting in the late 60's I won second place at IEEE student contest for my counter design using 7 segment lamp and Motorola RTL in the 70's I buried a Sulzer using bank coin bags filled with sand to close

Re: [time-nuts] Old Dual oven OCXO

2016-03-21 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
That is also my suspicion Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/21/2016 4:00:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, j...@febo.com writes: I don't need it myself, but that looks an awful lot like a Sulzer 2.5 or 5. On 3/21/2016 9:01 AM, Bert Kehren via time-nuts wrote: > Attached is an old Dual O

[time-nuts] PRS 10 proble

2016-03-02 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We have two PRS 10 units, one with the 1 pps disciplining circuit. Its lamp module failed. Moving the controller board to the one without the 1 pps circuit did not work. Does any one have done the move successfully. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing

[time-nuts] HP 53132A Display

2016-04-01 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Did buy a HP53132a counter mainly to use with the RS 232 for high resolution and to have a backup for my very favorite 5345a with 40 GHz head. Sadly the very clean unit has a very weak display to the extend that an 8 looks like a 9. Have the option for a full refund but would like to

[time-nuts] Ublox GPS

2016-03-21 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Attached is a picture of the Ublox GPS with 1 pps correction. It is clear that its on board limitation is the Maxim DS 1124. An alternative would be two Micron SY89279UMG's. It brings up the question I had raised before control of the TCXO. Using the house reference, a $ 4 ICS 570 and a $

[time-nuts] Old Dual oven OCXO

2016-03-21 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Attached is an old Dual Oven Flask high performance OCXO. I do not have the flask any more (broke) and no more info but if some one recognizes it and wants it for the shipping, please let me know. Moving, downsizing results in many items ending up in recycle. Bert

[time-nuts] HP 53132a

2016-04-13 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Did buy display from yixunhk got here in 3 days via DHL installed works great. Thanks for all the help on and off list but decided to buy a replacement. The other one is readable so if some one wants it for the cost of shipping please let me know off list. Thanks again Bert Kehren

Re: [time-nuts] Have I wrecked my FE-5680A?

2016-04-29 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Sadly yes The reason we have not released our GPSDO for the FE5690/50 and FE405 is that we have experienced the same on all three devices. You are the 9th case that I know of. We know very little as to what exactly causes it but we are incorporating circuitry to prevent it. What we know is

Re: [time-nuts] Last Call Group Buy Ublox LEA-6T

2016-05-19 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
That is why we stay with Ublox 5T for saw tooth correction and 6M for what I call PLL applications where you can change the 1 pps to higher frequency to be used in a PLL. Maybe we will one of these days see 1 ns on ebay. I am sure NDA's prohibit the company from resale of chip Bert Kehren

Re: [time-nuts] Last Call Group Buy Ublox LEA-6T

2016-05-19 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Today GPS receivers are getting better by the year due to the fact that in order to save silicon the chips are getting smaller and the clock frequency goes up reducing saw tooth excursion. If it was not for hanging bridge filtering it on the input of a GPSDO would be simple without info from

Re: [time-nuts] GPS on Science Friday, Marconi Prize

2016-05-22 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Col. /Professor Parkinson definitely deserves the prize, pushing GPS was not the best career move but he had a vision and we have to thank him for his commitment. Attached a picture of one of his visit with his boss at TI. A peace of trivia because of my security clearance I had to brief the

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A environmental sensitivities

2016-05-22 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I know Corby is working on it and he will share his results. I think he is right now on vacation that is most likely why he is not commenting. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/21/2016 10:02:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes: Hej Poul-Henning, On 05/20/2016

Re: [time-nuts] Maser 0.7 nsec jumps solved

2016-05-24 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I like to disagree. In the late 90's I started to work on high efficiency boat air conditioners for my boat, written up in Power and Motor Yacht "COOL" January 2003. To reduce inverter load and eliminate the power of the relays I went to zero crossing opto couplers and triacs. Used it also

Re: [time-nuts] 10khz gps board

2016-05-16 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
You do not have to purchase an expensive 6T to get 10 KHz out even a $ 10 unit has adjustable output some rely on the battery to memories the setting more expensive ones have EEPROM Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/16/2016 7:03:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, step...@tompsett.net writes:

Re: [time-nuts] Last Call Group Buy Ublox LEA-6T

2016-05-18 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Attached is a picture of our ublox board that we plan on making available to time-nuts once we have the FE 5680/50 GPSDO under control so it does not wipe out under any circumstances the memory. We will if any one is interested in a board also make the board only available for less than $ 10

[time-nuts] HP 53132a is gone

2016-04-13 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
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[time-nuts] Shera revisted

2016-08-10 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I get repeated requests for info on Shera mainly for Rb applications. Shera has a successful history controlling Rb's. Two things are a problem. The AD 1861 is not only unavailable but also never intended for precise DAC applications. The LTC 1655 makes a perfect replacement ,16 bits is

[time-nuts] There is a Tracor 527E on ebay

2016-07-15 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Have been using mine for over 15 years, very handy tool and using the 1 MHz output for very high resolution measurements. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Agilent 53132 Power module

2016-07-20 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
My Agilent 53132 power module went bad, does any one have one for sale or info or schematic. Thanks Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-22 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
The reason I made the post is after bad experiences I found a vendor with genuine product and willingness to send you data sheets and my tests confirm data within 3%. Can not ask for more. Can tell all the stories mentioned, been there done it, that is why I felt it will be useful for time

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-22 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
reliable sources, based on disappointing past experiences. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/22/2017 10:00:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, att...@kinali.ch writes: Hoi Bert, On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:08:22 -0500 Bert Kehren via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > purchased _2x Sa

[time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-21 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
In the seventies I used F size NiCad’s in applications like OCXO’s later Rb’s for power backups. Later switched to Ni-MH in all cases needed complex charge control and cutout to protect batteries. Today I have switched to Li-ion mainly because of the low cost reliable power management

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Batteries

2017-01-23 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
The biggest mistake you can make if you plan to use them in series not to equalize them before use. They come in different state of charge. Maybe close if from the same lot but not close enough and I do not count on the equalizer. I start with a discharge to 2.5 V and charge two at a time in

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-02 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Charles, would you please share your settings, this is exactly what we are looking for. We are doing it by trial and error but your expertise will help greatly. English not being my native language linguistics are some time a problem Thanks Bert In a message dated 9/1/2016 6:26:32 P.M.

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-01 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
maybe some one smarter than us can working with the parameters that Tbolt makes available better performance can be achieved but it is a fact that the frequency is being changed to compensate for time and Tom's frequency data matches our's and we do not care about ADEV, we care about the

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-01 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
TBolts that I see. Something is wrong. > > /tvb > > - Original Message - > From: "Bert Kehren via time-nuts" <time-nuts@febo.com> > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 9:54 AM > Subject: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

[time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-01 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
We have been following the Tbolt power discussions but what I am missing is the main problem with Tbolts. All the power work will not improve the frequency performance of the unit because the frequency is constantly changed to correct time. Tbolt is an excellent time device but not good for

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-10 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Charles would you mind sharing 1 second frequency data that you get out of the tbolt to get an idea what is possible. Looks like we are not the only ones trying to improve frequency performance and hopefully some one will share settings. Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/10/2016 6:42:17

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt issues

2016-09-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Yes Charles I was not part of or following the original Tbolt discussions. My setup at the time was Loran C with Austron 2110, backed up with Cs and 60 Khz using a Tracor 599H. My work was focused on FRK FRS Rb’s using Shera with very good results. At the same time Juerg was using a

[time-nuts] Rare HP clock

2016-10-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
There is a rare HP clock on ebay for the collectors among us. I am to old. RARE HP H20 115BR FREQUENCY DIVIDER & DIGITAL CLOCK STANDARD VINTAGE TEST Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Rare HP clock

2016-10-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
ebay 351861979923 In a message dated 10/3/2016 10:15:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ka2...@aol.com writes: Were is it ? Is it working ? 73 de Ulrich In a message dated 10/3/2016 10:12:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, time-nuts@febo.com writes: There is a rare HP clock on ebay for the

Re: [time-nuts] Nutty time-nuttery with WWVB

2016-11-10 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
I lived till last year in Miami which is a s far away from the 60 KHz transmitter. In the 90's Junghans came to test their 60 KHz products for that reason and as long as I lived there in my concrete slab home with steel re enforcement I never had problems receiving 60 KHz on my multiple

Re: [time-nuts] Cs tube pics

2016-11-01 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Has any one opened a FTS tube it is smaller than the new HP tube, would be nice. If not I will gladly make one available for the cost of shipping. Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/1/2016 1:19:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t...@leapsecond.com writes: > Thanks for the other good links as

[time-nuts] Thinking outside the box a super reference

2016-11-03 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Over the past there has been talk about building from scratch high performance references. I think consensus was that it is out of reach. In the mean time Corby is reworking an active maser which takes a lot of know how. But let us look at his work on the super HP5065. It is able to

[time-nuts] OCXO's

2016-11-02 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Still downsizing down to 20 Costco Premium Apple boxes found a box with OCXO's. One HP 105, a Piezo 10 Mhz looks like a HP 10811/544 knock off an Ovenaire CSC 85-50 and a CTC 15 MHz WP-93744L1 all available for the cost of shipping. All at one time tested, working as far back as

[time-nuts] HP 105 and Piezo gone

2016-11-02 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
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