Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2013-01-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
David, Hal, Thank you very much for the pointers, and the hand-holding. I ordered a unit from Sure last month, which arrived last week. I used David's excellent instructions, and I am happy to report that the unit (cabled to a 1U Linux server, Debian testing) is working well (or so I think).

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-15 Thread Hal Murray
gha...@gmail.com said: You mention low cost units which require you to add a power connector, etc. Could you recommend any that can be bought online? With RS-232, please? There are two obvious choices. A bit of googling may find more details and/or other boards. -- The new

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-15 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 12/15/2012 12:19 AM, Hal Murray wrote: gha...@gmail.com said: You mention low cost units which require you to add a power connector, etc. Could you recommend any that can be bought online? With RS-232, please? There are two obvious choices. A bit of googling may find more details and/or

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-15 Thread Hal Murray
c...@omen.com said: Does this provide 10 MHz or 1pps? None of the low-cost units that I know about provide 10 MHz. Most of them provide crappy timing via NMEA over a serial port. The ones I mentioned include PPS. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Big enough that Synergy Garmin have pricing for anywhere from 1 to 1000 units I don't know of any GPS units with PPS that are both low cost and no soldering. There are several low

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-14 Thread David J Taylor
Thank you, nice summary. One of my problems is that I am in Singapore. Soldering is not an issue in itself, but I cannot just order transistors and other small components online. You mention low cost units which require you to add a power connector, etc. Could you recommend any that can be

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-12-14 Thread Mats Engstrom
How can being in Singapore be a problem for acquiring components online? Element14/Farnell have their Asian warehouse there, they even have free overnight delivery by courier to Malaysia where I currently live. ( Or just go offline and get down to Sim Lim tower and get your parts there ^_^_ )

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james === It looks idea, James, but ... with the 15 mm square patch antenna it seems deaf compared to similar devices with 25 mm antennas. Perhaps

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Jim Lux
On 11/15/12 4:30 AM, David J Taylor wrote: i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james === It looks idea, James, but ... with the 15 mm square patch antenna it seems deaf compared to similar

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:02:54 -0800, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/15/12 4:30 AM, David J Taylor wrote: i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james === It looks idea, James,

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Jim Lux
On 11/15/12 5:33 AM, David wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:02:54 -0800, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/15/12 4:30 AM, David J Taylor wrote: i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:07:28 -0800, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/15/12 5:33 AM, David wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:02:54 -0800, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/15/12 4:30 AM, David J Taylor wrote: i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success.

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: David [] So the 16x manual says. As far as I know, all of the Garmin LVC, HVC, and 5Hz versions of their receivers have a timing pulse output. The GPS18 series that I have was replaced by the GPS18x series. Some of their receivers have TIA-232-F (RS-232)

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread james machado
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:30 AM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: i just used this to with a raspberry pi with good success. https://www.adafruit.com/products/746 james === It looks idea, James, but ... with the 15 mm square

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
From: james machado [] all good points David. I originally had place mine close to a window to get a lock as it could not acquire any satellites in my home office otherwise. I don't have a south facing window and my office is on the first floor of a two story house. That may or may not have

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: ALl good ideas.. but I was looking more for something a bit more packaged.. like a hockey puck with wires coming out. Garmin GPS-18x. The GPS-18x is the newer version. The GPS-18 (no x) is no longer in production. There are several versions. Check the fine

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Hal Murray
david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk said: Well, after 5 hours the Adafruit unit finally locked - must have been just the right combination of satellites! I was slightly surprised by the difference in antenna size. It would have to be placed near a window for normal use. .. There is another

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: ALl good ideas.. but I was looking more for something a bit more packaged.. like a hockey puck with wires coming out. Me too, please. Something with a PPS, and an RS-232 output, withour soldering. -- Sanjeev Gupta +65

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Hal Murray
gha...@gmail.com said: Me too, please. Something with a PPS, and an RS-232 output, withour soldering. I don't know of any low cost no-soldering solutions. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:06:10 -, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: David [] So the 16x manual says. As far as I know, all of the Garmin LVC, HVC, and 5Hz versions of their receivers have a timing pulse output. The GPS18 series that I have

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Not much of a market for that sort of stuff. Bob On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: gha...@gmail.com said: Me too, please. Something with a PPS, and an RS-232 output, withour soldering. I don't know of any low cost no-soldering solutions.

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Jim Lux
On 11/15/12 4:10 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Not much of a market for that sort of stuff. Bob Big enough that Synergy Garmin have pricing for anywhere from 1 to 1000 units ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi ….. but not at the same sort of price as a consumer grade GPS. Bob On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/15/12 4:10 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Not much of a market for that sort of stuff. Bob Big enough that Synergy Garmin have pricing for anywhere

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread gonzo .
...@megapathdsl.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps Message-ID: 20121115225909.289b5800...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii gha...@gmail.com said

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: Big enough that Synergy Garmin have pricing for anywhere from 1 to 1000 units I don't know of any GPS units with PPS that are both low cost and no soldering. There are several low cost units that come in a nice small package. But you can't just plug them into

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread DaveH
, 2012 17:08 To: time-nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps The Sureelectronics board may be worth a look. RS232, USB and a claimed Time Accuracy of a rather optimistic 20nS. ian http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=98 http://www.sureelectronics.net

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread John Miles
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps Hi Not much of a market for that sort of stuff. Bob On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: gha...@gmail.com said: Me too, please. Something with a PPS, and an RS-232 output

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Hal Murray [] There is another variable to consider: cold start vs warm start. If it doesn't know the time or doesn't have a recent copy of the satellite orbit info, it has to search a lot harder to get locked up. When you get a chance, disconnect it for an

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-15 Thread Hal Murray
Tried you suggested test, and re-acquisition was fast - yes, it has battery backup; a feature I now consider essential! Has anybody done any studies on acquisition time vs time since solid contact? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-13 Thread james machado
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: Looking for a non-surplus ( e.g. A current catalog item) gps module, with serial ( ttl or rs232) and 1 pps. Doesn't need high performance(100ns is fine), but should be $100 ish. Something with an integrated antenna

[time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-12 Thread Jim Lux
Looking for a non-surplus ( e.g. A current catalog item) gps module, with serial ( ttl or rs232) and 1 pps. Doesn't need high performance(100ns is fine), but should be $100 ish. Something with an integrated antenna would be great. ___

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-12 Thread Eric Garner
the Ublox LEA-6 is pretty cheap and has good performance. and the SUP500F that Brad has been doing group orders on has worked pretty well for me. eric On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: Looking for a non-surplus ( e.g. A current catalog item) gps module, with

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2012-11-12 Thread Naelcom Luc Gaudin
Hello You could have a look to the Trimble Anapala and Silvana. http://www.trimble.com/embeddedsystems/antenna-companion-modules.aspx Regards Luc Le 12 nov. 2012 à 19:45, Eric Garner garn...@gmail.com a écrit : the Ublox LEA-6 is pretty cheap and has good performance. and the SUP500F that