RE: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-09 Thread Shearon, Tim
: Michael Smith [mailto:ersaram...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sun 2/8/2009 8:07 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job What if the pass cuttoff is the equivalent of 80%? Then minimal performance would

RE: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
Wednesday 2:00-3:30 From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:31 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

RE: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Claudia Stanny
As Marie notes, he did give grades and the grades were uninformative about the quality of student learning. Schools that use narratives rather than grades do provide information about the quality of student learning. In addition, there is an implicit grade associated with the decision about

Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Christopher D. Green
Jim Clark wrote: One year I decided to make the assignments voluntary (I can't remember why although I am now being taken to task for using too many TA hours for the course, and this might have been the case earlier as well ... much of TA time is spent marking assignments). Guess what?

Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I think the secret to the difference (assuming there is a difference in the actual doing of assignments) is the 4 tests for Chris versus my 2 tests over an entire year. That is, students would not find out until Dec in my full-year course that they should have done the 3 assignments during

Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Ken Steele
My experience is closer to Chris'. I have a set of assignments that are voluntary. I don't take them up or grade them. The assignments are to help students identify whether they understand some topic. I have been pleasantly encouraged by the number of students (both strong and weak) who

Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Joan Warmbold
I thought there was empirical data relative to how students perform in classes that only have a pass-fail approach. I should be able to cite this but recall how it became clear fairly clearly that most students performed at the minimum level to get a pass. Ergo, the brief trial with pass-fail

Re: [tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-08 Thread Michael Smith
: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 5:15 PM I thought there was empirical data relative to how students perform in classes that only have a pass-fail approach. I should be able

[tips] globeandmail.com: Professor makes his mark, but it costs him his job

2009-02-07 Thread Christopher D. Green
It is too bad that this (now former) professor's politics obscures the critical educational question he poses: Would students work harder on their courses if there were no grades (i.e., if knowledge was the ONLY thing they could hope to take away from a course)?