Re: p = .051

2005-06-25 Thread Paul Smith
get with the hypothesis test and more. Consider the following two possible outcomes: A. p = .051, and a 95% CI for d runs from -0.135 to 8.5415. B. p = .051, and a 95% CI for d runs from -.0002 to .0782. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send

Re: p = .051

2005-06-25 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: p = .051 Could you comment on how this comparison would look to you if instead of just the p-value from the hypothesis test, you also included a measure of effect size

Re: p = .051

2005-06-25 Thread Paul Smith
: p = .051 Could you comment on how this comparison would look to you if instead of just the p-value from the hypothesis test, you also included a measure of effect size? This is a very interesting discussion. Thanks, Paul Smith Karl L. Wuensch wrote: My point is that the CI gives you

p = .051, p = .049, and Equivalence Testing

2005-06-25 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
: Re: p = .051 Okay, that does clarify things quite a bit for me. If I'm reading your argument correctly, you're saying that the difference between the two examples in the upper ends of the CIs (8.5415 versus .0782) does a better job of illustrating the differences between the examples than does

Re: p = .051, p = .049, and Equivalence Testing

2005-06-25 Thread Paul Smith
Karl L. Wuensch wrote: Yes, Paul, fair reading -- of course, in general, one should not ignore the lower end of the CI, but in this case, they don't much differ between examples. Yes, as I assume was part of your intention in picking those particular examples. In case A the CI

p = .051

2005-06-24 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
would find ways to screw up the interpretation of CIs every bit as much as they now do with hypothesis tests. Sigh. My point is that the CI gives you everything you get with the hypothesis test and more. Consider the following two possible outcomes: A. p = .051, and a 95% CI for d runs

Re: p = .051

2005-06-24 Thread Todd Nelson
on 6/24/05 2:03 PM, Karl L. Wuensch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was all: Consider the following two possible outcomes: A. p = .051, and a 95% CI for d runs from -0.135 to 8.5415. B. p = .051, and a 95% CI for d runs from -.0002 to .0782. These two possible outcomes paint very different