Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread James D.Dougan
Hi, Tipsters! I have been looking at the "unofficial" results of the Florida recount, and they seem odd from a statistical point of view. But, I typically don't do statistical analyses on political data, so perhaps someone can tell me where my reasoning is wrong (if indeed it is). The total

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread Paul C. Smith
James D.Dougan Because the statewide Bush/Gore split is essentially even, then one would expect that the undercounted ballots would be evenly split between Bush and Gore. Thus, our expected number of undercounted ballots would be about 1750 for each candidate. Only if the undercount

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread Paul C. Smith
To add to that question, it should be noted that the "swing" resulting from the recount was not uniform across counties. Here are the numbers (change in votes from count1 -- count2, with one county yet to report): Towards Gore: Bush: Alachua + 65+ 62

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread Louis_Schmier
Well, Paul statistics never say anything, only people do. There are white lies, lies, biggies, whoopers, and then statistics. Personally, I think people have to take responsibility for their actions. If they voted quickly rather than deliberately, they're paying the consequences; if they were

Physiological, Biopsychological, and Behavioral Neuroscience Faculty

2000-11-10 Thread Rob Flint
I am in the process of developing an NSF grant to build a behavioral neuroscience laboratory. Do any of you currently teach these classes with laboratories? I need to find programs that include exercises that I may adapt. I am particularly interested in knowing if any of you use: 1.

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread QuantyM
My admittedly limited understanding of this process is that some of the older technology like punch cards are unreliable but not predictable. In other words, if you do a recount using the same set of ballots and the same machine to count them, you will likely get a different count but it is not

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread David Wasieleski, Ph. D.
Louis: In general, I stay out of any threads mentioning politics or religion (they only get messy), but I must admit some degree of surprise, Louis. Your assertion of people taking responsibility for their actions and the need for the individuals in West Palm to be responsible enough to ASK

RE: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Sylvester
how does regression towards the mean figure out in all this? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida

Buchanan/Jewish votes

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Sylvester
One of the issues raised in Palm Beach County voting is how did Buchanan get about 3500 votes in a county that is predominantly elderly,Jewish and black. Some think that there must be an error. Is it fair to assume that Jewish and Black folks won't vote for Buchanan? Well we know that black

Regression towards mediocrity

2000-11-10 Thread Wuensch, Karl L.
Michael asked: how does regression towards the mean figure out in all this? As the years go by, the quality of our presidential candidates regresses towards mediocrity. grin + Karl L. Wuensch, Department of Psychology, East Carolina University,

Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Stephen Black
Those of our American friends, such as Louis Schmier, who are already congratulating themselves at having avoided tanks and blood in the streets over the election results may be a bit premature in their assessment. I understand that an American President still governs, and will continue to for a

Regression to the mean (Was: Recounts and Statistics)

2000-11-10 Thread John W. Kulig
I have no idea about how regression to the mean figures into the voting issue - but I do know a little about regression the mean. It refers to the fact that when predicting one thing (Y) from another (X), and the correlation between X and Y drops, predictions of Y from X converge on the mean of

A Note on the Voting Irregularities in Palm Beach, Florida

2000-11-10 Thread John W. Kulig
Tipsters: If you have not seen this yet, here is a snapshot of the Palm Beach "outlier" http://madison.hss.cmu.edu/ -- --- John W. Kulig[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Psychology

Re: Buchanan/Jewish votes

2000-11-10 Thread Paul Brandon
At 10:35 AM -0500 11/10/00, Michael Sylvester wrote: One of the issues raised in Palm Beach County voting is how did Buchanan get about 3500 votes in a county that is predominantly elderly,Jewish and black. Some think that there must be an error. Is it fair to assume that Jewish and Black folks

Smell of success

2000-11-10 Thread Ron Blue
http://www.newscientist.com/conferences/confarticle.jsp?conf=soneu200011id= ns149 The lemon odor only phase shifts the neuromodulation of the brain away from a current oscillon of pain. Pain is two or more incongruent stimulation interacting relative to the current learned neurological

Re: Recounts and Statistics

2000-11-10 Thread Linda Woolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My admittedly limited understanding of this process is that some of the older technology like punch cards are unreliable but not predictable. In other words, if you do a recount using the same set of ballots and the same machine to count them, you will likely get

Re: Following directions

2000-11-10 Thread Richard Pisacreta
What bothers me is the way its done around here. At my voting place, we face a liquid crystal display with "touch" technology. You touch the name of the person that you want to vote for. There is no receipt, punch card,or record of who you voted, for so a recount is impossible. I don't like

voting for the dead

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Sylvester
with Missouri's "show me" motto,can they really distinguish between the dead and the alive? what if the day before an election a Presidential candidate dies, will his /her name still remain on the ballot? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida

My only comments... really

2000-11-10 Thread G. Marc Turner
Okay, I've kept quiet but I feel compelled to mention a few things. First, the US national election of our president has little to do with the teaching of psychology as I see it. I would ask that those who continue to feel compelled to debate this issue, please let us know how we can integrate

Relevance to Psychology?

2000-11-10 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Tipsters, I find the voting thread very relevant to psychology and the case can serve in the classroom. I refer to the issue of standardization in testing - i.e., the requirement that when people answer a questionnaire, they should do so under conditions that are as uniform as possible.

Re: Following directions

2000-11-10 Thread Paul Brandon
At 6:44 PM + 11/10/00, Richard Pisacreta wrote: What bothers me is the way its done around here. At my voting place, we face a liquid crystal display with "touch" technology. You touch the name of the person that you want to vote for. There is no receipt, punch card,or record of who you

How I used the election for teaching

2000-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Nagelbush
G. Marc Turner wrote: Okay, I've kept quiet but I feel compelled to mention a few things. First, the US national election of our president has little to do with the teaching of psychology as I see it. I would ask that those who continue to feel compelled to debate this issue, please let us

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Mike Scoles
Stephen Black wrote: Those of our American friends, such as Louis Schmier, who are already congratulating themselves at having avoided tanks and blood in the streets over the election results may be a bit premature in their assessment. My concern is that other countries may take advantage

The psychology of ballots

2000-11-10 Thread Stephen Black
(I hope Marc Turner approves of my header) We seem to be having a Bishop's moment on TIPS, as I reply to the comments of my colleague, Stuart Mckelvie, who wrote: I find the voting thread very relevant to psychology and the case can serve in the classroom. I refer to the issue of

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Stephen Black
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Mike Scoles wrote: Stephen Black wrote: Those of our American friends, such as Louis Schmier, who are already congratulating themselves at having avoided tanks and blood in the streets over the election results may be a bit premature in their assessment. My

Re: The psychology of ballots

2000-11-10 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Tipsters, Steve is right. Funnily enough, I was going to allude to this event in my earllier post, but decided to stick the the issue of uniformity of content, particularly since I was speaking about elections at the Federal level. Steve's post refers to a vote in Quebec only.

RE: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Gary Klatsky
But they are there to keep the Americans from running away from the United States Gary J. Klatsky, Ph.D. Department of Psychology[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oswego State University of NY http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky Oswego, NY 13126Voice: (315) 312 3474

RE: How I used the election for teaching

2000-11-10 Thread Gary Klatsky
The ballot is the first thing my students will see in my human factors class next semester Gary J. Klatsky, Ph.D. Department of Psychology[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oswego State University of NY http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky Oswego, NY 13126Voice: (315)

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread jim clark
HI On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Stephen Black wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Mike Scoles wrote: My concern is that other countries may take advantage of our confusion. For example, Canada already has amassed its population along the border. Hey, that's not warmongering. We only do it to keep warm.

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Paul Brandon
At 2:28 PM -0600 11/10/00, Mike Scoles wrote: Stephen Black wrote: Those of our American friends, such as Louis Schmier, who are already congratulating themselves at having avoided tanks and blood in the streets over the election results may be a bit premature in their assessment. My

Re: My only comments... really

2000-11-10 Thread Jim Dougan
At 12:54 PM 11/10/00 -0600, G. Marc Turner wrote: Okay, I've kept quiet but I feel compelled to mention a few things. First, the US national election of our president has little to do with the teaching of psychology as I see it. I apologize for bringing this up in the first place. I saw it

Clarifying relevance...

2000-11-10 Thread G. Marc Turner
I did not mean to imply that the election events were not related to psychology. In fact, I agree with many of the posts pointing out issues of ballot design, test standardization, etc. as well as integrating current events into our lectures. However, I also feel that some of the posts strayed

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Paul Brandon
At 3:25 PM -0600 11/10/00, jim clark wrote: HI On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Stephen Black wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Mike Scoles wrote: My concern is that other countries may take advantage of our confusion. For example, Canada already has amassed its population along the border. Hey, that's

official Florida ballot

2000-11-10 Thread George D. Goedel
I received this attachment in an e-mail today. I just thought ya'll should see what the fuss is all about. ;-) George Floridaballot.jpg George D. Goedel Professor Chairperson Department of Psychology Northern Kentucky University Highland Hts., KY 41099-2000 (859) 572-5574 fax (859) 572-6085

RE: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Paul C. Smith
Paul Brandon wrote: pop quiz: What is the biggest US city on the Canadian border? Which direction do you go from it to get to Canada? Off the top of my head, and at the risk of confirming the notorious US ignorance about geography... Detroit MI, and you travel north from Windsor Ont.

Re: Presidential election and civil disorder

2000-11-10 Thread Mike Scoles
I have a sad story that is related to this. One day, I was talking to the chair of our department about Detroit and Windsor (for reasons that I probably shouldn't go into). A student walked by, and he asked her, "Hey, if you leave the U.S. by driving directly south from Detroit, what country

RE: Personality test for counselors

2000-11-10 Thread Claudia Stanny
I would like to broaden this thread a bit by posing several related questions. UWF has a Master's program in counseling psychology, places students in supervised practica, and requires an internship experience in a counseling setting as part of the degree requirements. The questions about

Re: relev to psych teaching

2000-11-10 Thread Diana Kyle
Ahhh how sweet it is - Type I or Type II? Diana Kyle - Original Message - From: Gerald Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: relev to psych teaching I agree that the thread seems to wander a bit. I find however,

RE: relev to psych teaching

2000-11-10 Thread Charles M. Huffman
Perhaps I differ from the majority (which has never stopped me before), but I find everything about the U.S. Presidential election relates to the teaching of psychology. If one accepts that psychology connects to the behavior and mental processes of all persons, then I think the relevance is