Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Palij
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:03:01 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: Mike Palij started his response (below) to my pointing out that his assertion that Heisenberg was well connected to high ranking Nazi Heinrich Himmler is misleading as follows: Well, as you say, it depends upon what one means by well

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-26 Thread Allen Esterson
--- Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science Mike Palij Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:47:41 -0700 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:03:01 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: Mike Palij started his response (below) to my pointing out

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-24 Thread Allen Esterson
- Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science sblack Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:28:41 -0700 On 23 Aug 2010 at 17:26, Christopher D. Green wrote: Psychology was also a victim of politicization under the Nazis. Which brings

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-24 Thread Allen Esterson
://www.esterson.org [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science Mike Palij Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:36:27 -0700 Robert Park, professor of physics at the University of Maryland, author of the book Voodoo Science, and editor

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-24 Thread Mike Palij
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:58:22 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: Mike Palij writes: It's an interesting story but, of course, Deutsche Physik fell out of favour even with the Nazis, Werner Heisenberg (yes, the uncertainty Heisenberg, not the Breaking Bad Heisenberg) was a proponent of Einstein's theory

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-24 Thread Allen Esterson
- -- Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science Mike Palij Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:21:45 -0700 On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:58:22 -0700, Allen Esterson wrote: Mike Palij writes: It's

[tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Palij
Robert Park, professor of physics at the University of Maryland, author of the book Voodoo Science, and editor of the weekly enewsletter What's New, had the following entry in the last issue of What's New: |2. CONSERVAPEDIA: OMINOUS ECHOES OF DEUTSCHE PHYSIK. |Last week I commented about

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-23 Thread Rick Froman
What are some scientific assumptions and beliefs as opposed to ideological ones? Rick Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Mike Palij wrote: All of these can be used as examples of ideologically driven attempt to corrupt the scientific enterprise and to substitute

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Palij
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:52:47 -0700, Rick Froman wrote: What are some scientific assumptions and beliefs as opposed to ideological ones? Let me start by first trying to identify what ideology refers to: |Ideology today is generally taken to mean not a science of ideas, |but the ideas

Re: [tips] Conservapedia and the Deutsche Physik: When Ideology Drives Science

2010-08-23 Thread sblack
On 23 Aug 2010 at 17:26, Christopher D. Green wrote: Psychology was also a victim of politicization under the Nazis. Which brings to mind one of its more famous victims, Sigmund Freud, and the supremely sly and ironic comment he is claimed to have added when asked to sign a document attesting