I. don't think there have been many changes since then (if any).

I can always use the help!

I'll figure out how to get a CVS going so we can keep the project current.

Thanks,

Pete


Richard Houston wrote:
No problem. We have a Java developer her who got the code you posted a few
months ago working and I am sure we can help out getting things ironed
out.

We found a few issue and are interested in seeing the newest version.
Maybe our Java guy can give you a had with some coding.




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On Tue, October 18, 2005 11:19 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
  
Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet.  Still
plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta.

I'll send the link when it is ready...


Pete



Richard Houston wrote:


    
That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this
for.




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On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote:



      
Richard,



I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download
and setup instructions.

Pete




Richard Houston wrote:





        
Hey Peter,



Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but
in it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had
to do several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was
able to get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a
programmer at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you
already are using WebSphere.



For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I
get a copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up?




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On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote:






          
Richard,




HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another.
Web5250 is
more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common
last month in Orlando.  Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a
browser, pretty much all.  Now, iSeries Access for Web does a
heckofalot more than that, but basically, that is it.

Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on
the list or not so I'll try it):



That is really all the Web5250 is.




I need to get a live link established and get my website updated
to show where this project is.  But, the concept is 5250 in a
browser. HATS (I
think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area.

Pete





Richard Houston wrote:








            
Hi all,




Just wanted to chiming on this topic.




I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/




It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The
development env only works on windows right now which suck for m
400 based
client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is
 that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You
can customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing
like your green screen apps at all. Kind of cool.

I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out
there and I think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with
enough effort web5250 could do the same. Just a thought.




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On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:









              
Thanks Wim.





This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of
years ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be
fairly straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it
sounded...) This
is very cool and Swing would be a good fit.



Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all?  I saw a demo of
a JSF
app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly
a server side implementation.  I have been meaning to take a
look at it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is.
The
JSP/Struts/Tiles
approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to
 simplify that.  I need to take a look at it soon but it
might give you a richer-looking UI without the client side
hassles of Swing.  Mapping
to JSF components might be a possibility.  I'll look into it
when I
have a chance to see what you are doing.

One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a
"static"
mapping option that would allow you to actually change the
component layout at the client end.  Rather than doing the
transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and
use that instead.  Not sure how to implement that though.

Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good
news on the code page support in JT400.  That should take care
of it!

Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....





Pete Helgren







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Hello Pete,





great to hear some acitivity from this corner.

The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is
tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some
bugfixes for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on
the list to give an idea to what it looks like. We were now
discussing internally whether we were going to apply the
scraper to our own screens, or build some kind of Swing gui
components on top of the stream: a table for a subfile, a
label for static text, a textfield for fields etc. The idea
is to be able to build swing panels that read and write
their data from the screen. The buttons and menu's would
call function keys etc to do screen transitions and move to
the next swing panel. What do you think? For us it is just
to be able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time
to reengineer the apps in full GUI apps.

The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not
find the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if
they're not in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here
not the AS/400 numberings?


Regards,
wim




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Gee....been kinda quiet around here.  Must mean we are all
gainfully employed and busy?

A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):





1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper
project you were involved in that used tn5250j components.
Where are
you on that?  I'd love to know what you are doing in that
area since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that
would be useful.

2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page
support, specifically for 1200 and 1208?  There was a post
in midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that
supported those code pages.  I didn't see it in the list of
supported code pages (not in JT400 either). I'd like to help
this guy out if I could, I just don't know how difficult it
is to support other code pages.

Thanks!





Pete Helgren





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