Re: trouble to run servlet

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
I would suspect it is because you are running Apache on port 80 and not Tomcat. You will need to set up a mod_jk (or mod_jk2) connector to have Apache forward specific URL requests to Tomcat. Why are you putting a HelloServlet inside the admin application anyway? - Original Message -

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Hello, Steve. Before JSP files can be compiled by javac, they have to be translated to Java source files by a JSP compiler. I doubt you really need to compile the JSP yourself as Tomcat will automatically compile JSP files when they are requested by a browser. Move your calendar.jsp into the

Re: Tomcat complains: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Remember that your classpath in your environment which is used by the java compiler when you issue a compile command from the command line is not the same classpath that Tomcat uses when it is running. Move the JAR into $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib. I don't believe that Tomcat supports loading JAR

Re: War files / codeBase and security permissions (v4.0.4)

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
You should not have to make any changes to policy files for this to work. It is Tomcat itself that is unpacking the WAR files--so assigning permissions to the WAR file itself won't do anything. What does your server.xml file look like? How did you determine that WAR files weren't automatically

mod_jk config

2003-02-09 Thread Carlos Godoy
Hello, I'm new in Tomcat. I'm using Apache+Tomcat: Apache/1.3.22 jakarta-tomcat-4.1.18-LE-jdk14 mod_jk I have configured Tomcat and it's working. I can view and execute servlets in the /examples folder. Now I want to execute servlets under the url: http://www.myurl.com/servlets/ I've tried to

Re: Help: JNI, mod_jk2 , Apache 2 not working

2003-02-09 Thread Rahul Bhargava
Found my problem after building a debug build of mod_jk2 and going thru the debugger. It was failing to create a shm slot b'cos I didn't have a shm config block!! Even though I was not running a multi-proc server, just a single proc yet ...#4%^ documentation... [shm:] info=Scoreboard. Required

Security manager, velocity and logging - access denied

2003-02-09 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Hello, I'm a tomcat newbie running debian and trying to use tomcat 4.0.3-3woody2 and velocity-1.3.1-rc2. So far I haven't managed all that well. =) If I disable the java security manager everything works fine. But I kinda figure that the security manager is there to serve a purpose. I would

Re: Apache vhost + Tomcat sharing the same document root

2003-02-09 Thread Chris Davies
Hi, Ah, thanks. That worked. Actually, this was the first thing I tried, but I realised I was defining the Host tags inside the localhost one. (Oops :) Unfortunatly, it still leaves me with a problem. I really don't want to have to shut down tomcat and restart everytime I add a new user to the

Re: Problem making Tomcat 4.1 invoke servlet from Apache 2.0.44

2003-02-09 Thread fred
Hello, you must have in the 'web-inf' directoty of your servlet a mapping like this one: web-app servlet-mapping servlet-nameinvoker/servlet-name url-pattern/servlet/*/url-pattern /servlet-mapping /web-app and you can invoke all servlets in the directory: WEB-INF/classes by the request:

RE: setting CATALINA_HOME

2003-02-09 Thread Turner, John
Thanks for the tip. John -Original Message- From: Bill Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: setting CATALINA_HOME Actually, the recommended way to go is to create $CATALINA_HOME/bin/setenv.sh (or

Re: Problems with mod_jk

2003-02-09 Thread fred
Hello, you must download the mod_jk2.0.43.dll. Install your Apache 2.0.43 not in program Files !! For me, i have an ApacheGroup with Apache2 and Tomcat4. Without spaces !! Install Tomcat4 not in service NT !! Load this module in your httpd.conf... You must create in your Apache/logs 3 files:

RE: mod_jk config

2003-02-09 Thread Turner, John
The Invoker servlet is disabled by default. Assuming your request is getting to Tomcat, you must either enable the Invoker servlet or explicitly map your servlet in your webapp's web.xml file. Check the docs and archives. John -Original Message- From: Carlos Godoy [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Turner, John
That won't work. You need something like this within your Context: Resources className=org.apache.naming.resources.FileDirContext caseSensitive=true allowLinking=true docBase=myApp / John -Original Message- From: Mike Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday,

Compile my .java directly in the Webapps directory....

2003-02-09 Thread fred
Hello, can somebody tell me if i can compile the .java drectly in the directory of my webapps. Is it an option in the sever.xml ? It's Apache 2.0.43 with Tomcat 4.1.18 with the JK2 but i think that is the same with Tomcat standalone... Thank you. Fred

RE: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Turner, John
Tomcat does not follow symlinks as a rule, by default, for security reasons. Creating a filesystem symlink with recent versions (4.1.12+, I believe) of Tomcat will have no effect, you need to declare an additional Resource in server.xml with the correct attributes if you want Tomcat to follow

RE: RH 8.0 Tomcat 4.1.18 and Apache 2.0.43

2003-02-09 Thread Turner, John
You can do this in Linux. RH 8 runs a munged version of Apache 2.0.40. Instead of following the Apache versions (latest of which is 2.0.44), RH has decided to continue to ship 2.0.40, but with all of the .41, .42, .43 and .44 fixes backported to their 2.0.40 PROVIDED you have ALL of the latest

Re: Tomcat - Apache install document

2003-02-09 Thread Thijs Thiessens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Op vrijdag 7 februari 2003 19:40, schreef Kenny G. Dubuisson, Jr.: Jonathan: Here are two links (one to a Word and one to a PDF version of the document): http://myweb.cableone.net/kdubuisson/Install.doc

Re: Tomcat complains: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC

2003-02-09 Thread Mark Liu
Thank you, Sean, But you did not finish reading my message, in which I said I even copied the BC bundle jar file to C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Tomcat 4.1\common\lib, but Tomcat still keeps complaining: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC Mark. --- Sean

Re: Compile my .java directly in the Webapps directory....

2003-02-09 Thread David Garamond
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Sorry, please ignore previous post (Re: Compile my .java directlyin the Webapps directory....)

2003-02-09 Thread David Garamond
please forgive me previous post. i was replying to the wrong message. fred wrote: Hello, can somebody tell me if i can compile the .java drectly in the directory of my webapps. Is it an option in the sever.xml ? It's Apache 2.0.43 with Tomcat 4.1.18 with the JK2 but i think that is the same with

how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Jianping Zhu
os: redhat 7.3 how can i make sure that tomcat is running in my server? Jianping Zhu Department of Computer Science Univerity of Georgia Athens, GA 30602 Tel 706 5423900

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Tim Funk
Use a command line program like wget, cURL, JMeter, ... to get a page back. You can also look for a java process running. -Tim Jianping Zhu wrote: os: redhat 7.3 how can i make sure that tomcat is running in my server?

exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread Vladimir Kirillov
Hi, all Could anyone tell me what to change in default Tomcat 4.1.18 configuration to avoid exception after several hours (night) of running idle? My web application uses database connection, but database driver connection timeout is set to Integer.MAX, so it should not be the reason. Here is

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Jianping Zhu
Thanks, can you give me more detailed instruction? On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Tim Funk wrote: Use a command line program like wget, cURL, JMeter, ... to get a page back. You can also look for a java process running. -Tim Jianping Zhu wrote: os: redhat 7.3 how can i make sure that

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Mark Liu
I am not sure about linux, but why don't you just try http://localhost:8080 or http://localhost and see? --- Jianping Zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, can you give me more detailed instruction? On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Tim Funk wrote: Use a command line program like wget, cURL,

Re: Tomcat complains: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC

2003-02-09 Thread Mark Liu
The same thing works on my Win2K box with Tomcat 4.1.12 and J2SDK1.4.1 at my home. But it does not work on my Win2K box with Tomcat 4.1.18 and J2SDK1.4.1 in my school lab. I get the exception from the tomcat console: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC Does this mean

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Brian Baxter
Alternatively on *nix (including Cygwin) you can type the following: ps -ef | grep java Of course if you have other java procs running they will show up too. If you wanted to see if it was bind to a port you can check netstat -a for the port # (likely 8080 in default config), but in reality,

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Oscar Carrillo
This is conceptually very easy, but a little tricky because the process identification typically gets cut off for processes that are lengthy. Which is what happens with all the classpath addition, etc. Try this: ps auxw --width=1000 | grep org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start I tried

RE: exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread mech
-Original Message- From: Vladimir Kirillov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sonntag, 9. Februar 2003 18:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: exception after several hours idle Hi, all Could anyone tell me what to change in default Tomcat 4.1.18 configuration to avoid

RE: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Mike Johnson
Ah... Thanks for the correction. :-) But, I'm now getting an exception during load if I set it like you wrote: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Document base dealernet does not exist or is not a readable directory at

Re: exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread Vladimir Kirillov
Could anyone tell me what to change in default Tomcat 4.1.18 configuration to avoid exception after several hours (night) of running idle? My web application uses database connection, but database driver connection timeout is set to Integer.MAX, so it should not be the reason. Even if

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Oscar Carrillo
I played around with this a little bit more and this outputs a complete list of all tomcat processes on a single line. It also avoids listing the ps command as a found process. ps ax --width=1000 | grep [o]rg.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start | awk '{print $1 }' Oscar On Sat, 8 Feb

Re: how can i make sure tomcat is running?

2003-02-09 Thread Oscar Carrillo
I made a slight mistake. It's printf instead of print for getting it one line. ps ax --width=1000 | grep [o]rg.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start | awk '{printf $1 }' Oscar On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Oscar Carrillo wrote: I played around with this a little bit more and this outputs a

Re: Compile my .java directly in the Webapps directory....

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
No. Tomcat will automatically compile JSP files to servlets for you, but not .java source files. Sean Dockery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Certified Java Web Component Developer Certified Delphi Programmer SBD Consultants http://www.sbdconsultants.com - Original Message - From: fred [EMAIL

Re: exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Why do you suspect that it is a problem with the database connection? Can you determine if you are running out of disk space somewhere? Or perhaps you are trying to safe a file to a location where you don't have sufficient permissions to do so. Or perhaps you are trying to load a file that does

Re: Tomcat complains: java.security.NoSuchProviderException: no such provider: BC

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Sorry about that. It was about 3 AM local time when I posted that message. Have you tried consulting this document: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/security-manager-howto.html I found an interesting excerpt from that document... The security policies implemented by the Java

Re: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Not sure why that would be happening. The documentation for Resources states that the Resources.docBase attribute is handled in the same manner as the Context.docBase attribute in that it is relative to the Host.appBase. Does using an absolute path for the Resources docBase work? That is...

Re: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Mike Johnson
Hey, now. The full path does work. Good one. :-) Thanks, Mike Johnson On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 13:47, Sean Dockery wrote: Not sure why that would be happening. The documentation for Resources states that the Resources.docBase attribute is handled in the same manner as the Context.docBase

Re: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Maybe try Resource.docBase= to see what that does... Just out of curiousity. :-) - Original Message - From: Mike Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 14:56 Subject: Re: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links. Hey,

Is SSI supported in TC 4.1 ?

2003-02-09 Thread ThePrahs
Has anyone activated Server Side Include(SSI) in Tomcat 4.1 ? I have followed the normal instructions under Apache's Tomcat website(http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/ssi-howto.html ), including : 1. Renaming servlets-ssi.renametojar to servlets-ssi.jar in directory

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Steve Burrus
Sean Dockery, while I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE yer helpful advice which you have offered to me (in fact, u are the only person so far to offer any advice for this current problem of mine!) it still isn't going right at all!! Here is a screen dump from the tomcat server error page. Note that it is

Re: How to configure Tomcat to follow symbolic links.

2003-02-09 Thread Mike Johnson
That's odd, started right up no complaints. It's even following links, too. :-) I should have mentioned this before: Blackdown SDK 1.3.1 (b), Debian unstable/PPC. Thanks again, Mike Johnson On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 14:16, Sean Dockery wrote: Maybe try Resource.docBase= to see what that

JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

2003-02-09 Thread Bryan Field-Elliot
We are building out a toolkit for distributed single sign-on, using (today) standards such as SAML and Liberty. While the guts of this toolkit are mostly finished, we aren't actually populating the Subject/Principals list, and we'd like to add features in that direction. I'm admittedly quite

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Sergio Ocio Barriales
Hi! I don't know if this is what you asked, but that error comes because there are problems in the source code. As you get: symbol : variable current location: class org.apache.jsp.calendar_jsp current-Cal.getActualMaximum(currentCal.DAY_OF_MONTH); and

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Hehe. Your situation is far from desperate. :-) The error that you are seeing happened when Tomcat attempted to translate your JSP file into a Java servlet source code file that it could then compile and run as a servlet. Don't despair though; failures can teach you much more than successes.

Re: Is SSI supported in TC 4.1 ?

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:26:35 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is SSI supported in TC 4.1 ? Has anyone activated Server Side Include(SSI) in Tomcat 4.1 ? I have followed

Re: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Hi Bryan, A couple of comments interspersed below. On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Bryan Field-Elliot wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 15:48:11 -0700 From: Bryan Field-Elliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Steve Burrus
SUCCESS gentlemen with the calendar.jsp!!! I got it to execute in the Tomcat app. server--probably my very 1st jsp/servlet to successfully run!!! All that I had to do was to correct a variable name (it had a "-" in it mistakenly) and then "lo and behold" it ran! I am, however, having a problem now

Re: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

2003-02-09 Thread Bryan Field-Elliot
Thanks for all your comments Craig, I did a little more thinking since my original post. First, to clarify - you mentioned that in this scenario, there really isn't a local realm at all, since there is no local user database. Actually there is, in the SAML model, there's a remote user database

RE: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread mech
Java teacher says: As far as I can see, you forgot to wrap your cases into brackets... Try the following: % switch (day) { % % case '1': { % FONT COLOR=blue SIZE=+1Sunday/FONT % break; } % % case '2': { % FONT COLOR=blue SIZE=+1Monday/FONT % break; } % % case '3': { %

Re: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Bryan Field-Elliot wrote: Date: 09 Feb 2003 17:26:10 -0700 From: Bryan Field-Elliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions Thanks for all your comments

Re: JAASRealm/LoginManager questions

2003-02-09 Thread Bryan Field-Elliot
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 18:09, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Ah, if only it would ... it would require a change to the servlet spec to allow filters to perform container managed security authentications. From a container writer's point of view, I get a little uneasy thinking

Re: Re: Tomcat - Apache install document

2003-02-09 Thread Peter Christoph Alexander Bär
I can't help you with your problem, as I am also stuck with JK2 on SuSE 8.1. However, I can give you a few hints, what the error message you get means. The line specifies that Tomcat shall be run without an X server (headless). Before J2SDK 1.4.x the implementation of the AWT classes required

Re: Need help w. another jsp!

2003-02-09 Thread Sean Dockery
Hello again, Steve. I concur with Michael's recommendation that you should hone your Java programming skills before you tackle JSP. - Original Message - From: Steve Burrus To: Tomcat Users List Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 17:01 Subject: Re: Need help w. another jsp! SUCCESS

Re: exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread Vladimir Kirillov
Why do you suspect that it is a problem with the database connection? First there was an exception from JDBC driver that I use. I set conntection timeout. But there is a porblem somewhere else. Can you determine if you are running out of disk space somewhere? Or perhaps you are trying to safe

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Peter Kelley
Thanks Craig, this sounds like a much cleaner solution than what I eventually tried which was to copy the session grabbing code out of AuthenticatorBase and use it to get the required principal. The problem I am having now is that JBoss still thinks that the logged on user is the last one that

Re: Apache vhost + Tomcat sharing the same document root

2003-02-09 Thread Lajos
Hi Chris - I've seen this situation before, but don't have a way to add vhosts to server.xml on the fly. One thing that comes to mind would be to use mod_rewrite to (somehow) rewrite a *.jsp URI with some vhost-specific info in it that Tomcat can pick up and use to direct to the right

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Feb 2003, Peter Kelley wrote: Date: 10 Feb 2003 14:31:23 +1100 From: Peter Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Valve Access to Principal Thanks Craig, this sounds like a much cleaner

Re: exception after several hours idle

2003-02-09 Thread Peng Tuck Kwok
Could you check and see if your database terminates connections after a certain amount of inactivity ? If so you can try and increase the duration. Might be worth a shot. Vladimir Kirillov wrote: Why do you suspect that it is a problem with the database connection? First there was an

IIS+Tomcat security constraint = Unauthorized: Logon Failed

2003-02-09 Thread Felipe Crochik
I am trying to use the tomcat security constraints behind an IIS web server. I know tomcat and the ISAPI filter are working. Also, Tomcat authorization is working bypassing IIS using port 8080. When I try to reach the exactly same application through IIS (port 80) I get the user validation

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Peter Kelley
I think you misunderstand my question, I want to run Tomcat standalone. The problem I have is that the JAAS credentials don't seem to be being associated with the thread that is running my JSP. The fact that JBoss is on the other end is probably irrelevant, the same problem would occur no matter

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Feb 2003, Peter Kelley wrote: Date: 10 Feb 2003 16:12:36 +1100 From: Peter Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Valve Access to Principal I think you misunderstand my question, I want to run Tomcat standalone. The

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Peter Kelley
OK I'm still not sure we are talking on the same page so please bear with me whilst I attempt to restate what is happening. Tomcat 4.1.18 running in JDK 1.4 JBoss 3.0.3 running in JDK 1.3 Tomcat is running standalone in a seperate JVM to JBoss. Both Tomcat and JBoss are running on the same

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Peter Kelley
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 17:22, Peter Kelley wrote: All of this seems to be working in the debugger correctly. The problem is that the JAAS security association that I am doing seems to be with the wrong thread or something because by the time JBoss sees it the subject is the one of the user who

Re: Valve Access to Principal

2003-02-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 10 Feb 2003, Peter Kelley wrote: Date: 10 Feb 2003 17:22:53 +1100 From: Peter Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Valve Access to Principal OK I'm still not sure we are talking on the same

Re: mod_jk2 and apache13

2003-02-09 Thread Bill Barker
liug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message b24kvg$7ku$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:b24kvg$7ku$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... mod_jk2 (tomcat 4.1.18) seems to compile fine with apache13, but only mod_jk2.so is generated. There is no libjkjni.so. Is that a problem? Is libjkjni.so really needed? The mod_jk2 works

Re: deploying simple servlet

2003-02-09 Thread Bill Barker
colin diggensworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am running Tomcat version 4.1 with JDK1.3.1 onWin98. I can run all the Tomcat examples servlets no problem. I am trying to run a simple servlet. I do the following: (1)Write a simple

Re: DEPLOY Command

2003-02-09 Thread Bill Barker
I seem to remember that there were some recent changes that may fix this, but it is hard to know without knowing which Tomcat version you are running. Alberto Magalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 001701c2cfc4$2a35e530$353216d5@aacm">news:001701c2cfc4$2a35e530$353216d5@aacm... Hi, why when

Unsubscription not working

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Hi, To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been trying to unsubscribe from the list but it doesn't work. I have already sent many unsubscribe emails to the above address (subject: unsubscribe, body: unsubscribe) and none of them worked. Please someone from the admins unsubscribe me

Tomcat Monitoring

2003-02-09 Thread pavel
Hello, Please could anybody tell me how to monitor whether tomcat is running. I am using for load testing JMeter which sends requests. Is there something like that which would also send requests for example each 5 min and in case of problem, an email would be sent to the administrator. Or is