RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-16 Thread Johan Coens
i would be glad too here, meanwhile i'll go look furher looking for a solution / cause. Cheers, Johan -Original Message- From: Nikola Milutinovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 20:14 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-16 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
Johan Coens wrote: Hello all, I tried: - isolating code in a java class and running it on both machines, about same performance So, the machine itself is OK. - running tomcat 4.1.29, bit faster but still ~15 sec. - changing network connection to full duplex, 2*faster but stil ~6 sec (should be

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-16 Thread Donie Kelly
enableLookups=true . .. /Connector Maybe the reverse lookup is failing? Just a guess... Donie -Original Message- From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 January 2004 10:57 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-16 Thread jerome moliere
Hi Johan It's very suspicious that websphere runs so fast and tomcat doesn't. I think there still might be a network issue. Can you modify your server.xml as follows changing the enableLookups=false instead of enableLookups=true Connector port=80 minProcessors=5 maxProcessors=75

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Lin
. Cheers, Johan -Original Message- From: Nikola Milutinovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 20:14 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines Unfortunattaly no option, we are bound to a specific java version and tomcat version

dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
Hello all, We have tomcat running with a webapplication based on Mediasurface (content mangement system). The performance of the web app is very different from machine to machine. On 1 dev. machine the performance is approx. 400 - 1000 ms. a page, on another 8000 - 14000 ms. I've copied the

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
Johan Coens wrote: Hello all, We have tomcat running with a webapplication based on Mediasurface (content mangement system). The performance of the web app is very different from machine to machine. On 1 dev. machine the performance is approx. 400 - 1000 ms. a page, on another 8000 - 14000 ms.

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
] Sent: 13 January 2004 10:26 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines Johan Coens wrote: Hello all, We have tomcat running with a webapplication based on Mediasurface (content mangement system). The performance of the web app is very

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
Johan Coens wrote: Hello Nikola, Machines are not identical, the fast machine has different specs (less memory, less disk space and less cpu) then the slow machine (this one has better specs). Quite ironic. One hint we've got is the carachter encoding in which the file is saved, but it seems to

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
:43 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines Johan Coens wrote: Hello Nikola, Machines are not identical, the fast machine has different specs (less memory, less disk space and less cpu) then the slow machine (this one has better specs). Quite

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Edson Alves Pereira
: dramatic performance differences on development machines Any chance there is something else running on the machine that's killing the performance. You should post the specs of the machine if you expect a reasonable guess as to your problem. Donie -Original Message- From: Nikola

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
can point me where too look at I would be very happy. Johan -Original Message- From: Donie Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 12:55 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Any chance there is something else running

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
Message- From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Here the specs are: It's a windows XP development Client Pentium 4, 2GHz, 512Mb memory jdk 1.3.1_06

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Remy Maucherat
Johan Coens wrote: Here the specs are: It's a windows XP development Client Pentium 4, 2GHz, 512Mb memory jdk 1.3.1_06 tomcat 4.0.6 Tomcat is consuming 50-90% of processing time when serving the request. Notice, i tetsted the app on websphere too, it is serving quite fast, 400ms. instead of

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 13:45 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines This kind of performance degration can also have some of the following causes if the load of the system doesn't indicate a problem: - long or failing DNS Lookups

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
But he said the same app was much faster on another (slower) machine. Donie -Original Message- From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 13:47 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines Johan Coens wrote: Here

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Peter Lin
so which machine handles the request within 1 second? and which takes upward of 14seconds? I doubt it is jasper, but it is possible it could be. I wouldn't rule it out. You should profile the webapp on both systems using OptimizeIt. it's much easier to see exactly what is happening, than

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
Message- From: Donie Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 14:48 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines What does the servlet do during the request. Is it a database lookup or what? It's intresting that it's using 50-90% cpu

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Graham Reeds
It's a windows XP development Client Pentium 4, 2GHz, 512Mb memory jdk 1.3.1_06 tomcat 4.0.6 Does the Task Manager list it as a two processor machine? If so it could be HyperThreading playing silly buggers with your code. However I don't think HT was ever implemented on P4s less than

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines It's a windows XP development Client Pentium 4, 2GHz, 512Mb memory jdk 1.3.1_06 tomcat 4.0.6 Does the Task Manager list it as a two processor machine? If so it could be HyperThreading playing silly buggers with your code

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
Users List; Graham Reeds Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Question, could it be that jsp:include 's are very slow and that this is causing performance issues? If so, what could be the cause

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Peter Lin
it be that jsp:include 's are very slow and that this is causing performance issues? If so, what could be the cause? -Original Message- From: Graham Reeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 15:20 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines It's

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Mike Curwen
. :) -Original Message- From: Peter Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:43 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines I doubt jsp:include would be the cause. If you do a search in the taglib-user

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Edson Alves Pereira
Try tomcat-4.1.29 or tomcat-5.x -- De: Johan Coens[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder:Tomcat Users List Enviada: terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2004 11:10 Para: Tomcat Users List Assunto: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 16:51 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Try tomcat-4.1.29 or tomcat-5.x -- De: Johan Coens[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder:Tomcat Users List Enviada: terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
Hello Mike, Im running NAV but even when disabeling this the machine performces slow.. Thanks anyway -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 16:34 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
differences on development machines Try tomcat-4.1.29 or tomcat-5.x -- De: Johan Coens[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder:Tomcat Users List Enviada: terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2004 11:10 Para: Tomcat Users List Assunto: RE: dramatic performance differences

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Johan Coens
Message- From: Donie Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 16:59 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Maybe the only solution for me is running websphere... ha. Telling this to a company that sold you Tomcat might work

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Hello Mike, Im running NAV but even when disabeling this the machine performces slow.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Peter Lin
Message- From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 17:51 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines Try tomcat-4.1.29 or tomcat-5.x -- De: Johan Coens[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responder: Tomcat Users List

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
Maybe it's running as a service. Can you make sure you stop the services as well... -Original Message- From: Ralph Einfeldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 16:09 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines We made

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Donie Kelly
details. It may save time in the long run... Donie -Original Message- From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 16:07 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines I'll come back on this later, i'll be out of office for a day

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Edson Alves Pereira
: 'Tomcat Users List' Assunto: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines No I meant the rrequest times for each machine. You said one took 400ms I think and the other was 20seconds. Which machine gave which response. You said you moved it to a slow dev machine but it wasn't

RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Mike Curwen
, January 13, 2004 10:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: dramatic performance differences on development machines We made the experience with McAffe that disabling is not sufficent to get the normal performace. I can't offer more details, that has been done by one of our sys admins

Re: dramatic performance differences on development machines

2004-01-13 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
Unfortunattaly no option, we are bound to a specific java version and tomcat version to gain support from the supplier... Then could you just *try* a different version? If it works, then YELL at your supplier - they would deserve it, sticking to a buggy version. For that matter, sticking to