RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-25 Thread Drew Jorgenson
OK, so you will eventually want to have wild card domains for more than
one domain, correct?

Drew

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote:
 Oh, I see where you are headed. 
 
 One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
 make that the default host.
 
 That's out of the question since I host for so many people.
 
 George Sexton
 MH Software, Inc.
 http://www.mhsoftware.com/
 Voice: 303 438 9585
   
 
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  From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
  
  Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
  host, meaning
  do you have a static IP available?
  
  Drew.
  
  
  On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
   Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
  I specify a
   pattern say
   
   *.domain.com
   
   And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
   
   Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
  there is already
   another default host that is used.
   
   
   
   George Sexton
   MH Software, Inc.
   http://www.mhsoftware.com/
   Voice: 303 438 9585

   
   
   
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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-25 Thread Drew Jorgenson
I think that would still be up to your dns settings. You could have
something like

* IN CNAME mydomain.com

correct me if I'm wrong ;-)

Drew.



On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote:
 Oh, I see where you are headed. 
 
 One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
 make that the default host.
 
 That's out of the question since I host for so many people.
 
 George Sexton
 MH Software, Inc.
 http://www.mhsoftware.com/
 Voice: 303 438 9585
   
 
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  From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
  
  Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
  host, meaning
  do you have a static IP available?
  
  Drew.
  
  
  On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
   Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
  I specify a
   pattern say
   
   *.domain.com
   
   And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
   
   Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
  there is already
   another default host that is used.
   
   
   
   George Sexton
   MH Software, Inc.
   http://www.mhsoftware.com/
   Voice: 303 438 9585

   
   
   
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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-25 Thread Drew Jorgenson
Woops, I don't think that will work with Tomcat since the
subdomain.mydomain.com would be passed to it and Tomcat won't know which
container it goes to.

The way I normally do this, is assign a static IP to a virtual host and
set the IP as one of its aliases. That way all wild card domains point
to the same container.

Drew
P.S. I will think about this a bit more since it is valid point, I
wouldn't want to give out all my static IPs just for the wild cards to
work.

On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:36, Drew Jorgenson wrote:
 I think that would still be up to your dns settings. You could have
 something like
 
 * IN CNAME mydomain.com
 
 correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
 
 Drew.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote:
  Oh, I see where you are headed. 
  
  One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
  make that the default host.
  
  That's out of the question since I host for so many people.
  
  George Sexton
  MH Software, Inc.
  http://www.mhsoftware.com/
  Voice: 303 438 9585

  
   -Original Message-
   From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
   
   Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
   host, meaning
   do you have a static IP available?
   
   Drew.
   
   
   On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
   I specify a
pattern say

*.domain.com

And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?

Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
   there is already
another default host that is used.



George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
 



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Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-25 Thread Robert r. Sanders
I have a sort of similar setup; we have shell script that simple adds an 
Aliashostname/Alias to Tomcat's server.xml file; not the optimal 
solution, but it works for us for now.

Drew Jorgenson wrote:
Woops, I don't think that will work with Tomcat since the
subdomain.mydomain.com would be passed to it and Tomcat won't know which
container it goes to.
The way I normally do this, is assign a static IP to a virtual host and
set the IP as one of its aliases. That way all wild card domains point
to the same container.
Drew
P.S. I will think about this a bit more since it is valid point, I
wouldn't want to give out all my static IPs just for the wild cards to
work.
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:36, Drew Jorgenson wrote:
 

I think that would still be up to your dns settings. You could have
something like
* IN CNAME mydomain.com
correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
Drew.

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote:
   

Oh, I see where you are headed. 

One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
make that the default host.
That's out of the question since I host for so many people.
George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
 

 

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From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting

Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
host, meaning
do you have a static IP available?

Drew.
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
   

Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
 

I specify a
   

pattern say
*.domain.com
And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
 

there is already
   

another default host that is used.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585

 

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Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-25 Thread Drew Jorgenson
That set-up would only work for specific subdomains, what George is
trying to accomplish I think is point any (wild card) subdomain to a
specific virtual host without the use of static IPs for each virtual
host.

Although George, if you only need this done for a few virtual hosts and
you have a few static IPs available, use them if you can.

This is what I do:

1. Set this in my DNS:

mydomain.comIN A 1.2.3.4
www.mydomain.comIN A 1.2.3.4
*IN A 1.2.3.4

2. Assign the static IP as an alias in my virtual host

Host name=www.mydomain.com 
Aliasmydomain.com/Alias
Alias1.2.3.4/Alias
.


I hope this helps solve your problem somewhat.


Drew.


On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:47, Robert r. Sanders wrote:
 I have a sort of similar setup; we have shell script that simple adds an 
 Aliashostname/Alias to Tomcat's server.xml file; not the optimal 
 solution, but it works for us for now.
 
 Drew Jorgenson wrote:
 
 Woops, I don't think that will work with Tomcat since the
 subdomain.mydomain.com would be passed to it and Tomcat won't know which
 container it goes to.
 
 The way I normally do this, is assign a static IP to a virtual host and
 set the IP as one of its aliases. That way all wild card domains point
 to the same container.
 
 Drew
 P.S. I will think about this a bit more since it is valid point, I
 wouldn't want to give out all my static IPs just for the wild cards to
 work.
 
 On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:36, Drew Jorgenson wrote:
   
 
 I think that would still be up to your dns settings. You could have
 something like
 
 * IN CNAME mydomain.com
 
 correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
 
 Drew.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:46, George Sexton wrote:
 
 
 Oh, I see where you are headed. 
 
 One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
 make that the default host.
 
 That's out of the question since I host for so many people.
 
 George Sexton
 MH Software, Inc.
 http://www.mhsoftware.com/
 Voice: 303 438 9585
   
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
 host, meaning
 do you have a static IP available?
 
 Drew.
 
 
 On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
   
 
 I specify a
 
 
 pattern say
 
 *.domain.com
 
 And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
 
 Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
   
 
 there is already
 
 
 another default host that is used.
 
 
 
 George Sexton
 MH Software, Inc.
 http://www.mhsoftware.com/
 Voice: 303 438 9585
  
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread Rob Hunt
There are some domain-name-registrars/DNS-providers that allow you to set up a 
wildcard host where their domain name servers will dynamically redirect HTTP 
requests.  For example:

http://*.domain.tld/  

could be redirected to something like 

http://mywildcardhost.domain.tld/%SERVER_NAME%/ 


where %SERVER_NAME% would take on the whatever host was originally used in 
the HTTP request.  It's then a simple task of using a wildcard url-pattern/ 
servlet mapping (/* in this example) to direct the request accordingly.

This obviates the need to customize Tomcat code.  However, you'll probably need 
a nominal monetary outlay to use the services of said DDNS provider.



Read more:  http://www.changeip.com/

Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread Robert r. Sanders
You might also be able to do something similar by using Apache httpd as 
frontend and combining mod_jk with either mod_vhost or mod_rewrite.

Rob Hunt wrote:
There are some domain-name-registrars/DNS-providers that allow you to set up a wildcard 
host where their domain name servers will dynamically redirect HTTP requests. 
 For example:
   http://*.domain.tld/  

could be redirected to something like 

   http://mywildcardhost.domain.tld/%SERVER_NAME%/ 

where %SERVER_NAME% would take on the whatever host was originally used in the HTTP 
request.  It's then a simple task of using a wildcard url-pattern/ servlet mapping (/* in this 
example) to direct the request accordingly.
This obviates the need to customize Tomcat code.  However, you'll probably need 
a nominal monetary outlay to use the services of said DDNS provider.

Read more:  http://www.changeip.com/
 

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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread George Sexton
That doesn't do what I need. I have a very large, existing application that
needs to pick up a parameter based on which host name is used. Changing the
path structure will be hopelessly complicated.

The issue of getting the DNS wild-carding to work is the client's issue.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Hunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:02 AM
 To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 There are some domain-name-registrars/DNS-providers that 
 allow you to set up a wildcard host where their domain name 
 servers will dynamically redirect HTTP requests.  For example:
 
 http://*.domain.tld/  
 
 could be redirected to something like 
 
 http://mywildcardhost.domain.tld/%SERVER_NAME%/ 
 
 
 where %SERVER_NAME% would take on the whatever host was 
 originally used in the HTTP request.  It's then a simple task 
 of using a wildcard url-pattern/ servlet mapping (/* in 
 this example) to direct the request accordingly.
 
 This obviates the need to customize Tomcat code.  However, 
 you'll probably need a nominal monetary outlay to use the 
 services of said DDNS provider.
 
 
 
 Read more:  http://www.changeip.com/
 


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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread George Sexton
Right now I'm running tomcat with 40 some virtual hosts without using
Apache. Throwing in the additional configuration/complication issue of
dealing with Apache isn't my preferred route.

It would be a lot simpler to add regex support to the aliases function of
tomcat.

If worst comes to worse, I'll just make an alias for the various hosts. It's
probably going to top at at around 6-10 anyway.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert r. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:26 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 You might also be able to do something similar by using 
 Apache httpd as 
 frontend and combining mod_jk with either mod_vhost or mod_rewrite.
 
 Rob Hunt wrote:
 
 There are some domain-name-registrars/DNS-providers that 
 allow you to set up a wildcard host where their domain name 
 servers will dynamically redirect HTTP requests.  For example:
 
 http://*.domain.tld/  
 
 could be redirected to something like 
 
 http://mywildcardhost.domain.tld/%SERVER_NAME%/ 
 
 
 where %SERVER_NAME% would take on the whatever host was 
 originally used in the HTTP request.  It's then a simple task 
 of using a wildcard url-pattern/ servlet mapping (/* in 
 this example) to direct the request accordingly.
 
 This obviates the need to customize Tomcat code.  However, 
 you'll probably need a nominal monetary outlay to use the 
 services of said DDNS provider.
 
 
 
 Read more:  http://www.changeip.com/
   
 
 
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Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread Drew Jorgenson
Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual host, meaning
do you have a static IP available?

Drew.


On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
 Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can I specify a
 pattern say
 
 *.domain.com
 
 And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
 
 Making the host the default host is not an option, because there is already
 another default host that is used.
 
 
 
 George Sexton
 MH Software, Inc.
 http://www.mhsoftware.com/
 Voice: 303 438 9585
  
 
 
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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread George Sexton
Well, yes the machine has a fixed IP address.

I don't care about the DNS resolution aspect. I want tomcat to wildcard
forward to the right virtual host based on the name.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

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 From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
 host, meaning
 do you have a static IP available?
 
 Drew.
 
 
 On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
  Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
 I specify a
  pattern say
  
  *.domain.com
  
  And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
  
  Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
 there is already
  another default host that is used.
  
  
  
  George Sexton
  MH Software, Inc.
  http://www.mhsoftware.com/
  Voice: 303 438 9585
   
  
  
  
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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-24 Thread George Sexton
Oh, I see where you are headed. 

One way to go would be to have a new service, with a new IP address, and
make that the default host.

That's out of the question since I host for so many people.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
http://www.mhsoftware.com/
Voice: 303 438 9585
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Drew Jorgenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:14 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 Are you able to assign a static IP address to your virtual 
 host, meaning
 do you have a static IP available?
 
 Drew.
 
 
 On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 10:42, George Sexton wrote:
  Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
 I specify a
  pattern say
  
  *.domain.com
  
  And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
  
  Making the host the default host is not an option, because 
 there is already
  another default host that is used.
  
  
  
  George Sexton
  MH Software, Inc.
  http://www.mhsoftware.com/
  Voice: 303 438 9585
   
  
  
  
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Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-23 Thread George Sexton
Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can I specify a
pattern say

*.domain.com

And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?

Making the host the default host is not an option, because there is already
another default host that is used.



George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
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Re: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-23 Thread QM
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 11:42:09AM -0700, George Sexton wrote:
: Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can I specify a
: pattern say
: 
: *.domain.com
: 
: And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?

Not possible with a stock Tomcat install.
Perhaps possible with some source tweakage, but then you have the fun of
running a custom install.

-QM

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RE: Wild Card Hosting

2005-03-23 Thread George Sexton
I'll try looking through the alias handling code and see how hard it would
be to come up with something to cover it.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
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Voice: 303 438 9585
  

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:09 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Wild Card Hosting
 
 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 11:42:09AM -0700, George Sexton wrote:
 : Does anyone know if Tomcat supports Wild card hosting? Can 
 I specify a
 : pattern say
 : 
 : *.domain.com
 : 
 : And have all requests get forwarded to a specific host?
 
 Not possible with a stock Tomcat install.
 Perhaps possible with some source tweakage, but then you have 
 the fun of
 running a custom install.
 
 -QM
 
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