Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
. If you want to ignore history, go ahead. On 3/20/2011 11:46 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:04:45PM -0500, Edward Langenback wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 3/20/2011 5:08 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/21/2011 2:39 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:06:04PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Last comments for a while. (All I have time for, sorry.) I'm just going to respond to specific issues about system threats and the like. I appreciate your comments the work of all involved w

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/21/2011 6:38 PM, Al MailingList wrote: That's a very good point klaus. Joe - if you think the US Government is one big cohesive entity that funds projects consistently from a single pool of resources and money then I would politely suggest you may not have had much to do with them :P

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/22/2011 3:57 PM, Michael Reed wrote: BINGO, we have a winner! The original *QUESTION* posed that led to the invention of Onion Routing was, Can we build a system that allows for bi-directional communications over the Internet where the source and destination cannot be determined by a

Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-03-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
clind...@garudallc.com wrote: Hi, I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest. U.S. develops panic button for democracy activists Full article:

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote: Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling (which was broken but has since been fixed). Personally, I got a friend on IRC to let me use his phone for

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/3/2011 1:06 AM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote: Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling (which was broken

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 12:52 AM, grarpamp wrote: First I've heard that they require SMS to *USE* gmail. However, SMS has been required for quite some time now to *CREATE* a new gmail account. There was a thread a few months back regarding creation. And to date, I've not been able to create a new gmail

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 4:54 PM, Praedor Tempus wrote: The problem with gmail appears to be tied to certain countries. I created a completely anonymous gmail account late last year (no SMS crap) via tor. I have found that most of the time I am able to connect to my account but there are times (wrong

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 3:53 PM, Matthew wrote: Yes, thus my question about where the StrictExitNodes commands would be input / stored (maybe for specific country) ? Not sure if this was answered but you just put the entries in your torrc file. No, it wasn't answered - that I saw. Thanks. I know

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 11:10 PM, grarpamp wrote: What if you don't have a phone # to give them (or don't want to) - they just don't let you create an acct? In my tests to date (limited by free time), yes, that's what I said. FYI - I tried GMX w/ Tor couple days ago - worked just fine. Yes, free

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/6/2011 7:27 PM, grarpamp wrote: Don't understand clinging to Gmail for dear life. They just happen to have some really good services and tie-ins that all rely on having a gmail/google account. I may just cough up $20 for a disposable phone to get that. If someday the services really

Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.3.2alpha don't work under FF 3.6.16

2011-04-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/7/2011 6:21 AM, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: TB-1.3.2alpha don't work under FF 3.6.16 from Ubuntu 10.10 distribution: I cannot save changing of settings (button OK don't pushable). TB-1.2.5 is workable with it. ___ tor-talk mailing list

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/7/2011 1:54 PM, grarpamp wrote: The shortest answer is that strong pseudonyms are useful, even (or especially) in a well connected social environment. Many people want to have those links. Many want use some of the services google offers: https://www.google.com/intl/en/options/ Many want

[tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, usually times out. Much slower than I've ever seen it unless there was something wrong w/ internet conn in general. Seems

Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
this will help others. On 4/8/2011 2:46 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, usually times out. Much slower than I've ever seen

Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/8/2011 5:35 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - like below. It just keeps going thru them like a ticker

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/21/2011 1:22 PM, Kraktus wrote: Well, if I had an 8-core machine with 4+GB RAM, or even a single-core machine with over 1 GHz and at least 1GB RAM, I'd probably have four browser profiles for Firefox alone: ... However, seeing has how my computer is single core, less than 1 GHz, and has

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/22/2011 6:32 AM, Kraktus wrote: If I had a nice high CPU high RAM machine, you mean? ...I'm actually using a similar browser that's close enough that it can still use Firefox 4 add-ons. Also, JonDoFox makes running multiple instances of my non-Firefox quite easy: there's a menu option for

Re: [tor-talk] no country flags in Vidalia 2.10

2011-04-28 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/27/2011 1:41 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... Tor couldn't find a geoip file ... because it didn't CREATE the geoip file in the limited user's ...\roaming\tor folder. It DID create the geoip file in the admin acct... I'm using bundle 2.1.29 / 2.10 [and now 2.1.30 / 2.12] in Vista x64

[tor-talk] accessing Gmail via Tor revisited

2011-05-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
A week or 2 ago, several had quite a discussion on accessing gmail accts (I could not - at the time), creating new accts, verification requests, etc. I believe Erin said (she ?) could login successfully by limiting exit nodes to same country as used when acct was created. I can confirm that

Re: [tor-talk] TB for Win

2011-05-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/3/2011 1:20 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: this i agree. what about a default tor skin like chrome 'incognito' has ?? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Erinn Clark wrote: I'm more worried that users will have two Firefoxes open, and accidentally use the wrong

Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing???

2011-05-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/20/2011 6:45 AM, Curious Kid wrote: From: grarpampgrarp...@gmail.com To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 10:17:02 AM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing??? If yahoo is actually rejecting log-in attempts based on perceived

Re: [tor-talk] problem with facebook account

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/29/2011 5:38 PM, Zaher F. wrote: can somebody help me about blocking accounts on facebook when i am using tor??? i guess that should be a code country i can retrieve my account without using phone number am i right or what??? I don't have a facebook acct, so not positive. Often,

Re: [tor-talk] problem with facebook account

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/29/2011 11:47 PM, David Carlson wrote: The manual is not really clear about what a country code is or where to find yours. I searched the internet for Country Codes and found a list somewhere, but I do not recall right now where that list was. In any case, the strict exit nodes solution

Re: [tor-talk] password...

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 10:21 AM, kamyar fils wrote: So i can't choose which country? On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM, kuhkatz kuhk...@googlemail.com mailto:kuhk...@googlemail.com wrote: click new identity in vidalia. or wait 10 minutes and tor will automagically create a new circuit.

Re: [tor-talk] Police was here - whats next?

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 2:46 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hi, Today police was here and took all my cohabitant's computer hardware software with them, while I was alone at home. Until a few minutes ago I didn't even know what happend, now he told me he is accused of loggin into a porn site. I ran a

Re: [tor-talk] When to use and not to use tor.

2011-06-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I'm not a guru in this dept - only what I've read. Reason usually given not to use Tor for Banking is because the Tor exit node has to send unencrypted data to your target site (like bank PWs). Unless your communication w/ that site was somehow encrypted ( a login PW wouldn't be). A

Re: [tor-talk] When to use and not to use tor.

2011-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/12/2011 1:22 AM, Seth David Schoen wrote: Your communication with an online banking site usually _would_ be encrypted with HTTPS, which would encrypt your login password. For instance, if you were banking with Bank of America, you would normally start your login process at

Re: [tor-talk] Maintaining your privacy sending e-mails

2011-07-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/7/2011 1:04 AM, jsz wrote: How do you manage to send e-mails? I'd like to send e-mails in an anonymous way but most of the webmails make it very difficult Try to use an anonymous e-mail account and connect to that account via TOR. E-mails shoud be encrypted locally (with GnuPG) so that

Re: [tor-talk] tor-0.2.2.30rc, torrc, ExitNodes, EntryNodes parameters.Not Recognized.

2011-07-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/12/2011 1:24 PM, Luis Maceira wrote: I define some entry nodes or exit nodes in torrc and tor-0.2.2.30rc ignores them completely.Is this a new feature of 0.2.2.x series of releases? ___ Are you using Vidalia bundle or browser bundle? Did you

Re: [tor-talk] spam??/socks4a for mac

2011-07-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/19/2011 12:00 AM, M wrote: Hey guys.. i have sent several messages to the list. but i hardly receive any response! I was wondering maybe it was landing in people's spambox. If you receive this message, can you just add a note so i know that my messages are going through? Also a

Re: [tor-talk] No BetterPrivacy for Tor?

2011-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/2/2011 6:54 AM, M Robinson wrote: Hello, I updated Tor and was adding few addons, out of habit I went to the BetterPrivacy add-on page and got this message This add-on has been removed by its author so tried again We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for. The

[tor-talk] Reason Firefox version in TBB is so far behind?

2011-08-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Are there specific reasons for not using latest (or late-er) Firefox versions in Tor Browser Bundle? Is it primarily because the latest version doesn't always work w/ Tor fixes must be developed for Tor to deal w/ that? I can understand that, but many of the changes in FF versions are

Re: [tor-talk] Reason Firefox version in TBB is so far behind?

2011-08-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/2/2011 7:41 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 8/2/2011 7:10 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Tuesday, August 02, 2011 19:55:48 Joe Btfsplk wrote: Are there specific reasons for not using latest (or late-er) Firefox versions in Tor Browser Bundle? Is it primarily because the latest version doesn't

Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

2011-08-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/5/2011 4:42 PM, Martin Fick wrote: --- On Fri, 8/5/11, berta...@ptitcanardnoir.orgberta...@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote: http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/38207/?p1=A1 It's worth reading the paper: I think that simply getting high profile sites to run to r nodes would be

Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

2011-08-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/6/2011 10:56 AM, Jimmy Richardson wrote: This won't work well seeing Google is already kicked out of China. Exactly. You lost me at If google were to... Google privacy is the definition of an oxymoron. They're way down the list of organizations many users would want having any role in

Re: [tor-talk] Reason Firefox version in TBB is so far behind?

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/9/2011 4:55 AM, Robert Ransom wrote: That is why we ship the latest version of Firefox on the 3.6 branch in our stable TBBs. Mozilla is still releasing security updates on the Firefox 3.6 branch. As you can see from https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-3 , Firefox

Re: [tor-talk] Thunderbird, GMail and Tor - is it safe?

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/9/2011 10:03 AM, Phillip wrote: Hi, My question is about the safety of using Thunderbird to send e-mail through Tor. A little background: I run a moderate capacity (~500-600 kb/s) Tor relay. I've configured my Thunderbird client to use the Tor network, as well as to not leak DNS resolves,

Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/8/2011 9:34 PM, Jimmy Richardson wrote: On 8/9/2011 5:44 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Jimmy, though you have some valid points, I think you missed my point entirely (possibly some other posters'). Actually I do see your point, as I have said, we have different assumptions regarding how

Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/9/2011 3:18 AM, Zaher F. wrote: after reading all ur conversation... for me i didnt understand a very important thing : how come a software or tools as Telex and is not anonymity?? because the most of blocked sites by the governments are restricted also and censored... so i dont

Re: [tor-talk] Thunderbird, GMail and Tor - is it safe?

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/9/2011 11:49 AM, cmeclax-sazri wrote: On Tuesday 09 August 2011 11:03:55 Phillip wrote: My question is whether the SSL/TLS connections between my e-mail client and the GMail server are being made through the Tor network, and whether using Tor in such a way exposes my otherwise unencrypted

Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

2011-08-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/10/2011 5:21 AM, Achter Lieber wrote: - Original Message - From: Zaher F. Sent: 08/09/11 03:18 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor. after reading all ur conversation... for me i didnt understand a

[tor-talk] Any problem installing TBB Vidalia bundle on same machine?

2011-08-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
My question involves 2 scenarios. 1. Installing both TBB Vidalia bundle, so other apps could be torrified if need to close Tor browser. 2. Install run TBB Vidalia bundle simultaneously, so if close TBB, don't have to wait for Vidalia startup to torrify other apps. Not sure which of

Re: [tor-talk] Any problem installing TBB Vidalia bundle on same machine?

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/11/2011 11:08 AM, Phillip wrote: I'm still sticking to Torbutton - I prefer the flexibility of being able to switch it on and off when I need, rather than launching a new browser. That being said, I frequently run Tor with Firefox at the same time as my e-mail client (all of which is routed

Re: [tor-talk] Any problem installing TBB Vidalia bundle on same machine?

2011-08-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/14/2011 12:30 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 05:34:08PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: But, still like to know if can install both vidalia bundle Tor browser bundle at same time (even if not running at same time). Installing both at once is no problem -- TBB doesn't

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor Browser Bundles with Firefox 6

2011-08-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/21/2011 5:51 AM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: Hi everyone, We've updated the experimental Tor Browser Bundles to Firefox 6 and all users are strongly encouraged to upgrade, as Firefox 6 fixes some serious security issues present in Firefox 5. See

Re: [tor-talk] New Tor Browser Bundles with Firefox 6

2011-08-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/21/2011 2:28 PM, Justin Aplin wrote: On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Thanks. How experimental are they? They are alpha releases, after all. For most software, alpha releases are only intended for testing (most developers stress that point). For something involving

[tor-talk] release note for latest browser bundle

2011-08-24 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I've looked all over. Where can full release notes / change logs be found for latest releases of TBB (alpha, beta or stable). All I've found is brief summaries of main items. Thanks. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] release note for latest browser bundle

2011-08-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/24/2011 7:03 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I've looked all over. Where can full release notes / change logs be found for latest releases of TBB (alpha, beta or stable). All I've found is brief summaries of main items. Thanks. No official release / changes notes for TBB Tor

Re: [tor-talk] release note for latest browser bundle

2011-08-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/27/2011 8:32 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 08:07:20AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.4K bytes in 12 lines about: : On 8/24/2011 7:03 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: :I've looked all over. Where can full release notes / change logs :be found for latest releases of TBB

Re: [tor-talk] release note for latest browser bundle

2011-08-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/27/2011 11:14 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:14:39AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 1.3K bytes in 33 lines about: : Don't find a readme or changelog for TBB 2.2.31-1a. All I find is : on the blog- https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ , shown below. Are :

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others)

2011-09-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/2/2011 7:55 AM, Achter Lieber wrote: - Original Message - From: Roger Dingledine Sent: 09/01/11 03:47 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others) New bundles are out now:

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others)

2011-09-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/2/2011 9:57 AM, David Carlson wrote: On 9/2/2011 9:28 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Is it really a risk, d/l Tor or TBB directly from Tor Project's site, that verifying signatures is necessary? What is the reasoning here - if getting files from Tor Project server

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others)

2011-09-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/2/2011 12:11 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: Joe Btfsplk writes: Is it really a risk, d/l Tor or TBB directly from Tor Project's site, that verifying signatures is necessary? What is the reasoning here - if getting files from Tor Project server? How do you know it was really the Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others)

2011-09-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/2/2011 4:46 PM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:31:53PM -0400, col...@averysmallbird.com wrote 4.5K bytes in 109 lines about: : According to a number of bloggers(1), torproject.org was include among those Here's another blogger for your list,

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch CA issues fake *.torproject.org cert (among many others)

2011-09-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/7/2011 3:42 PM, Marsh Ray wrote: On 09/07/2011 03:19 PM, Julian Yon wrote: My bank forces me to enter part of my password using unobscured dropdowns for security. Sure, it avoids keyloggers, but what about *someone standing behind me*? Do they have a gun? Otherwise, cover the screen

Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.4.2

2011-09-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/9/2011 7:20 AM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote: Is there a way to not to close Vidalia and Tor itself with browser exit? Or open TB`s Firefox separately fully functional, with New identity option? When I need to restart FF or when it crashes, it is very inconvenient to start all cycle again:

Re: [tor-talk] Any problem installing TBB Vidalia bundle on same machine?

2011-09-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 8/14/2011 7:47 PM, Justin Aplin wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 05:34:08PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: But, still like to know if can install both vidalia bundle Tor browser bundle at same time (even if not running at same time). Alternatively, as a hackish fix, you could modify your

[tor-talk] question about socks 4, 5

2011-09-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
was playing w/ latest TBB seeing how other apps (like email - Tbird, or other apps) behaved, just to experiment. 1) Question about changes in proxy settings of late(er) TBB (Aurora - FF 6) use. Notice that ONLY things filled in on network settings page is: - Manual Proxy Config is checked,

Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?]

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 9/26/2011 5:34 PM, William Wrightman wrote: --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: From: Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?] To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 1:08 PM I don't

[tor-talk] observation: Browser bundle secure files deletion

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I've thought about TBB it insecurely deleting files such as cache when closing TBB Firefox. I assume this is what happens - I've investigated - a BIT - seems that's what it does. *Is this correct?* If true, there's no opportunity to securely wipe the files, rather than them being insecurely

Re: [tor-talk] observation: Browser bundle secure files deletion

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/4/2011 9:22 AM, Julian Yon wrote: On 04/10/11 15:00, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote: I had the exact same question about secure delete. Also, securing wiping the computer's memory is important, as sensitive data could be recovered from RAM even *after* power off... TAILS handles this:

Re: [tor-talk] observation: Browser bundle secure files deletion

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/4/2011 2:20 PM, Julian Yon wrote: Generally it's polite to read the information you've been given before responding at length. As you have not, I don't see much point in continuing trying to help you. Sorry to have to put it like that, but I'm chronically ill and don't appreciate having

Re: [tor-talk] observation: Browser bundle secure files deletion

2011-10-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/4/2011 4:38 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: On 2011-10-04, Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: I've thought about TBB it insecurely deleting files such as cache when closing TBB Firefox. I assume this is what happens - I've investigated - a BIT - seems that's what it does. If you have

Re: [tor-talk] [S_ _ _] Please vote for Torservers so we get 1000 Euro

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/6/2011 6:26 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: Hi, I am afraid we are slowly but steadly running out of funds so I am now taking desperate measures. ;-)... Vote here if you are okay with it: https://verein.ing-diba.de/sonstiges/01099/zwiebelfreunde-ev We will use the donation to fund our Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle: PGP encryption built-in?

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/10/2011 2:44 AM, Robert Ransom wrote: No. See https://tails.boum.org/bugs/FireGPG_may_be_unsafe/ , but beware -- I'm sure katmagic and I missed a few dozen attacks. You're correct - that is, the https site you link has an unsafe certificate, * per msg * in Firefox 7: tails.boum.org uses

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
NOTE: my 2nd reply to Andrew's response - still getting update available after installing (latest) latest TBB. Tor-talk must be down - not seen new msgs in a while. On 10/12/2011 10:05 AM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:47:26AM -0500, joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote 0.5K

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/13/2011 3:48 AM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Koh Choon Lin (2choon...@gmail.com): Hi the same think happened for me... after downloading the nwe version and running TBB aurora come out with the same message of update... Second that. What URL are you guys being sent to on

[tor-talk] using themes in Aurora

2011-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using addons, plugins, etc. of ALL sorts is a touchy subject regarding Tor anonymity. I'm wondering about use of Firefox themes addons like Tab Mix Plus? Any thoughts on the topic? I give the native theme in Aurora / Firefox (7) low marks for usability, including overall tabs functions /

Re: [tor-talk] still problems - update available

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/14/2011 9:44 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Someone said the problem of inaccurate notices from TBB that an update was available was fixed. This morning, I'm still getting the notice. This is the page it accesses if click link in Aurora: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html

Re: [tor-talk] using themes in Aurora

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
No one's EVER looked into Tor security issues of using themes (from Mozilla addons site) or Firefox GUI enhancement addons, like Tab Mix Plus? On 10/13/2011 12:36 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Using addons, plugins, etc. of ALL sorts is a touchy subject regarding Tor anonymity. I'm wondering about

Re: [tor-talk] using themes in Aurora

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/14/2011 1:28 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Friday, October 14, 2011 12:49:32 Joe Btfsplk wrote: No one's EVER looked into Tor security issues of using themes (from Mozilla addons site) or Firefox GUI enhancement addons, like Tab Mix Plus? You could be the first! My first step would

Re: [tor-talk] still problems - update available

2011-10-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/14/2011 7:07 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): On 10/14/2011 3:07 PM, Mike Perry wrote: The problem w/ the startup page showing there was a new version, was I copied my old profile (say from 2.2.32-4) into the latest TBB ver profile folder. Something

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/16/2011 3:05 PM, Julian Yon wrote: On 16/10/11 17:57, William Wrightman wrote: When you have finished then you close the partition. Now the password is cleared from the RAM. Thoughts? If you (or someone you ultimately trust) didn't write or audit the code yourself then you are making a

Re: [tor-talk] Anybody else having problems with Hushmail via Tor?

2011-10-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/21/2011 11:52 PM, Jim wrote: Hi All, Perhaps a few days ago when I was trying to access Hushmail via Tor I was told my computer was blocked, possibly because of abuse. A quick modification of torrc to exlcude a few particular exit nodes let me access Hushmail. Afterwards, I reverted

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-01 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/1/2011 10:49 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:13:44 Joe Btfsplk wrote: *** BUT, on a 2nd SEARCH, w/ Google still selected as search engine, TBB does NOT show the screen, asking if you'd like to redirect to another search engine. You told torbutton you didn't want

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/2/2011 4:40 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com 於 2011/11/2 12:06 寫道: On 11/1/2011 8:23 PM, Advrk Aplmkt wrote: Thanks Joe for the info. Yes, I *do* know how to remove search engines, including the method you described. However, I was suggesting that Google

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/3/2011 3:53 AM, Advrk Aplmrkt wrote: On 2 November 2011 20:17, Julian Yonjul...@yon.org.uk wrote: As the GPL is one of the license options, there is no way that any contract or agreement between Google and Mozilla could possibly be binding on a third party. Mozilla do impose

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/4/2011 9:54 AM, Christian Siefkes wrote: On 11/04/2011 03:43 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: A lot of effort is put into helping Tor / TBB users avoid compromising anonymity by using Google searches. Yet, the Google search engine is left in Aurora. It's a pretty simple question - why? How

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/5/2011 12:47 PM, Christian Siefkes wrote: Avoid Google is not among that warnings, as far as I can see. You are correct - not from Tor Project anyway. They also don't say avoid robbing banks; don't stare at the sun, etc. About all I can advise is, read Google's (lack of) privacy

Re: [tor-talk] New Browser Bundle

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/3/2011 8:46 PM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 01:30:00AM -0400, zzretro...@email2me.net wrote 4.2K bytes in 100 lines about: : Any reason for this? Even after I unchecked enable globally I started to surf : and then noticed a different icon on the top of the

Re: [tor-talk] Don't use Google as default search in Tor Browser?

2011-11-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/6/2011 2:05 PM, Julian Yon wrote: Personally I use DDG, partly because of privacy concerns and partly because I don't like the new-look Google. You can always do a Google search through DDG or Scroogle if you're feeling paranoid. On topic, I'd prefer DDG or Ixquick as the default search

Re: [tor-talk] New Browser Bundle

2011-11-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/7/2011 10:24 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: The default tbb config does block 3rd party cookies, and clears all cookies on shutdown. Unless you've told torbutton to preserve some cookies, they're wiped. Point of symantics: Not the correct word - wiped. They are simply insecurely deleted,

[tor-talk] Aurora tab loading status

2011-11-15 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Since Firefox took any meaningful tab / page loading progress bar or indicator of any kind out, several versions ago, I rely on addons in Firefox to give some indication of how fast how much is left to load. If a page is slow / hung, I just cancel. Can't tell that in stock Aurora. Swirling

Re: [tor-talk] torifying TB

2011-11-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/20/2011 7:21 PM, eliaz wrote: Following the instructions in the Configure Thunderbird to work through Tor help file. I've successfully set up tormail in Thunderbird. However, I don't know what the No Proxy for field on the TB Network Disk Space Settings tab is supposed to mean.

[tor-talk] copying old profile to new Aurora not working

2011-11-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I upgraded to latest TBB 2.2.34-3 in Vista. I usually copy my profile from previous version of TBB / Aurora into new version, so as not to have to redo some custom settings or reinstall a few extensions I have in TBB. This time, after copying the profile from older TBB replacing the

Re: [tor-talk] copying old profile to new Aurora not working

2011-11-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/29/2011 3:12 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: 1st, I guess some default settings in Aurora are actually stored in prefs.js (as in USER set prefs)? If so, meaning the user prefs file isn't only user prefs - it has prefs set by Aurora devs? Re: shooting myself in the foot. Maybe there's an issue

Re: [tor-talk] If you have access to certain tools, you can completely ignore Tor.

2011-12-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 12/18/2011 5:33 PM, Matthew R wrote: From: http://www.wired.com/vanish/2009/09/interview-with-pi-steve-rambam-evan-can-be-found/ Wired: How much can one do with IP addresses that have been run through Tor? SR: If you have access to certain tools, you can completely ignore Tor. You can trap

Re: [tor-talk] If you have access to certain tools, you can completely ignore Tor.

2011-12-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 12/24/2011 4:09 AM, grarpamp wrote: to put one in someday, we'll make it obvious and loud that it is so. No Backdoors. No bugdoors. No so-called lawful interception systems. Court orders and duress can be applied to anyone who is reachable by them. The only real solution should that happen

Re: [tor-talk] need help with the Lasy version of the Tor Browser

2012-01-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/3/2012 8:51 AM, Андрей Перовский wrote: Hello Everybody! I need you help very much. The last version of the Tor Browser is standing on @relaing the network status@ wile loading. In what the problem could be. Have you got any suggestions? ___

[tor-talk] Anonymity HTTPS Everywhere Observatory

2012-01-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Have any recommendations from Tor Project been issued regarding the new? options in HTTPS Everywhere to use their SSL Observatory, where certain info is transmitted to them? Now there's one more item for TBB users to make a decision about that could compromise anonymity.

[tor-talk] 2 questions on HTTPS Everywhere settings

2012-01-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
What are others' opinions of these setting in NoScript in TBB (latest TBB 2.2.35-4)? 1) In Options HTTPSBehavior, the forbid active web content unless comes from an HTTPS connection. Default is never, but there is a choice of when using proxy (recommended w/ Tor). What are some lesser

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity HTTPS Everywhere Observatory

2012-01-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Well, when I installed TBB 2.2.35-4, the HTTPS Everywhere version is 2.0 dev 4. Possibly the version updated along w/ any other extensions, on 1st start of TBB 2.2.35-4? But, that's what I have I'd never seen the pop up about the Observatory before now. On 1/7/2012 11:46 AM,

Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited

2012-01-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/10/2012 10:26 AM, 5...@gmx.de wrote: I found a thread in the archive (November 2011), but I could not find a satisfying answer to the questions 1. Why is Google the default search engine in the TOR browser bundle? 2. Does TOR get money from Google a) for using Google as the default

Re: [tor-talk] Google as default search engine revisited

2012-01-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 1/10/2012 2:02 PM, Curious Kid wrote: Insinuating that Tor is adware and that the Tor Project is being compensated for delivering user data is outrageous. There's been a recent increase in FUD (because of the SOPA vote?), but this is pretty over the top. 1st, there's no such thing as a

Re: [tor-talk] How does the new browser know where to find old bookmarks?

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
You'll have to import them into Aurora from Firefox (or any other) by using the Import Backup from bookmarks library. Either use Import from HTML, if coming from another FF version, or Import from another browser. On 2/2/2012 6:53 AM, M Robinson wrote: Hello, I just upgraded the

Re: [tor-talk] Do You Like Online Privacy? You May Be a Terrorist

2012-02-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/2/2012 11:15 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://publicintelligence.net/do-you-like-online-privacy-you-may-be-a-terrorist/ Do You Like Online Privacy? You May Be a Terrorist February 1, 2012 in Featured Public Intelligence A flyer designed by the FBI and the Department of Justice to promote

Re: [tor-talk] How to use Tor Browser without TBB Bundle?

2012-02-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/7/2012 2:28 PM, Phillip wrote: Thanks for the link C, I did what it suggested vis modifying the start-tor-browser script, but it ends up just launching another window of Firefox and not Aurora... Try adding option -no-remote to Firefox, it should start new process instead of connecting

Re: [tor-talk] How to use Tor Browser without TBB Bundle?

2012-02-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/8/2012 11:29 AM, The Doctor wrote: Don't know about a script. Normally, if you want to run more than one I think he means start-tor-browser (shell script on my box, probably a batch file on Windows). If you were using this in a script, I suppose the use of -no-remote would be the same

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