Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-20 Thread Warren Myers
heheh - well, he actually had problems finding something interesting that would pay even on a par with entry-level sysadmin or support work - at least in this area. Right now he's working as a developer (which he's had a fair amount of experience with), but is barely touching his degree

[TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Tuttle
Message: 18 Date: 19 Feb 2007 16:35:18 -0500 From: jonc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list trilug@trilug.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 15:58, Jim Tuttle

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread jonc
, but with a wife and kids, the decision was not mine alone to make. Still, there is plenty of opportunity here... just awaiting folks with will and vision. Jon Carnes FeatureTel - Original Message - From: bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:01 pm Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread jonc
- Original Message - From: Magnus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list trilug@trilug.org These flexible compensation packages are probably more attractive to people

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Shaw
, February 18, 2007 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list trilug@trilug.org These flexible compensation packages are probably more attractive to people right out of school, dual income families, single adults, or childless

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Magnus
Mike Shaw wrote: Hear! Hear! I love how the IT business in general loves to promote itself as family friendly but anyone with a family who has been in IT knows it is all just K-rap. Not necessarily. I'm currently contracting at IBM and the work-life balance here is very real. If I need to

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Shaw
Wow - that sounds great! I'm an IBM full-time employee and I can't say I have as rosie of a picture to paint. I'm not in a bad area now but I was in another area that was not that great. It definitely matters who your boss is. But I will still stand by my let's advertise things better than

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Tuttle
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:24:18 -0500 From: Mike Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list trilug@trilug.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hear

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread jonc
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 15:58, Jim Tuttle wrote: Message: 13 I guess I'm only tangentially in the IT field the rest of you are in- I'm a digital librarian at NC State. About half of what I do is system administration and application development. I had an opportunity recently to go to a dot

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Warren Myers
I just graduated in December, and was fortunate to be in the position of having two very nice job offers to pick from. I went with my job in Cary over one in Dallas for mostly two reasons: first, it didn't involve moving to an area where I know no one and second, they're already a publicly-traded

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Alan Porter
...at the level somebody with a PhD in Electrical Engineering should get. Ah, so Home Depot is hiring again? [1] Alan [1] Not slamming on your room-mate in particular, but it's sad how hard the EE market is these days. I do know at least one working at Home Depot, and a few others who are

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-19 Thread Jeremy Portzer
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Alan Porter wrote: ...at the level somebody with a PhD in Electrical Engineering should get. Ah, so Home Depot is hiring again? [1] [1] Not slamming on your room-mate in particular, but it's sad how hard the EE market is these days. I do know at least one working

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread Aaron S. Joyner
Warning, this is one of those Aaron emails that goes on for ever. I actually wrote it in two sittings, it took so long. If you're not interested in the internals of Google compensation, you may safely stop reading now. bak wrote: Bear with me for a minute, I haven't discussed this with more

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread Magnus
Aaron, thank you so much for your thoughtful contributions to this thread. I've personally found it very interesting to read, from both sides. Just an unsolicited $0.02: Aaron S. Joyner wrote: So, base salary isn't what one might typically expect. And even from the offer letter, it's

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread bak
Magnus wrote: Aaron, thank you so much for your thoughtful contributions to this thread. I've personally found it very interesting to read, from both sides. Just an unsolicited $0.02: Aaron S. Joyner wrote: So, base salary isn't what one might typically expect. And even from the offer

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread Aaron S. Joyner
bak wrote: Magnus wrote: Aaron, thank you so much for your thoughtful contributions to this thread. I've personally found it very interesting to read, from both sides. Just an unsolicited $0.02: Aaron S. Joyner wrote: So, base salary isn't what one might typically expect. And even from

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread bak
Aaron S. Joyner wrote: Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was simply saying that I did take a hard look at the base salary, and the other unlikely-to-change benefits of the team I would be working with, etc - and decided that was enough for me to make the decision to move to CA and work for Google. It

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-18 Thread Aaron S. Joyner
bak wrote: Aaron S. Joyner wrote: Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was simply saying that I did take a hard look at the base salary, and the other unlikely-to-change benefits of the team I would be working with, etc - and decided that was enough for me to make the decision to move to CA and work

[TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Aaron S. Joyner
Yes, as you've possibly heard both in the news, or on this very list, Google is opening a data center facility in North Carolina. No, this facility is not in or immediately near Raleigh, and for that I do apologize. :) The location is in Lenoir, NC, which for those who might not know is around

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Israel J. Pattison
Aaron, Sounds cool! As for me, I'd never be so naive as to reply to the whole list *again* when I interested in a job offer. That would just be silly! I really do appreciate they way you continue to think about us TriLUGgers. Thanks much, Aaron. Good day. Israel On 2/15/07, Aaron S.

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread bak
Bear with me for a minute, I haven't discussed this with more than a couple people in the last six months, and I couldn't resist the opportunity to do so now. As someone who was offered an SA job at Google last year and turned it down, I would describe my experience with the Google interview

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread William Sutton
You, sir, chose wisely ;) [1] William --snip-- Maybe I should have had Taco Bell like Aaron before my Google interview -- I went to In-N-Out. :) --bak --snip-- [1] In-N-Out rocks. I wish it were out here on the east coast. If you haven't tried it, you need to. -- TriLUG mailing

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Tarus Balog
On Feb 15, 2007, at 9:30 AM, William Sutton wrote: [1] In-N-Out rocks. I wish it were out here on the east coast. If you haven't tried it, you need to. Went to SCaLE in LA last weekend. Got my usual Double Double, animal style, with Fries and Strawberry shake. The place was packed at

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 15 February 2007 10:12, Tarus Balog wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 9:30 AM, William Sutton wrote: [1] In-N-Out rocks. I wish it were out here on the east coast. If you haven't tried it, you need to. Went to SCaLE in LA last weekend. Got my usual Double Double, animal style,

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread bak
I have to second Tarus on the animal style double double. I usually go for the 'well-done' fries as well. Aargh, starving now. My sources tell me that Cook-Out is the thing that comes closest in NC, and it's but a pale imitation. --bak William Sutton wrote: It's not even 10:35 and you've

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread William Sutton
It's not even 10:35 and you've made me hungry :} -- William Sutton On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Tarus Balog wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 9:30 AM, William Sutton wrote: [1] In-N-Out rocks. I wish it were out here on the east coast. If you haven't tried it, you need to. Went to SCaLE in

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Grant Shipley
On 2/15/07, bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sources tell me that Cook-Out is the thing that comes closest in NC, and it's but a pale imitation. What about 5 guys? -- TriLUG mailing list: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread William Sutton
5 Guys is lame in comparison. I'd rather eat at Fuddruckers than 5 Guys. -- William Sutton On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Grant Shipley wrote: On 2/15/07, bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sources tell me that Cook-Out is the thing that comes closest in NC, and it's but a pale imitation. What

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Jos Purvis
Grant Shipley wrote: On 2/15/07, bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sources tell me that Cook-Out is the thing that comes closest in NC, and it's but a pale imitation. What about 5 guys? 5 Guys is the closest I've had since relocating to this coast, and it comes very close indeed. Definitely

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread jason
so now im conused! should I apply or not.. ;) Jason On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:13:57AM -0500, bak wrote: Bear with me for a minute, I haven't discussed this with more than a couple people in the last six months, and I couldn't resist the opportunity to do so now. As someone who was

RE: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Jim Ray
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC so now im conused! should I apply or not.. ;) Jason [Jim Ray pontificates] what's wrong, man? Cisco not good enough for ya? -- TriLUG mailing list: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Shipley wrote: On 2/15/07, bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sources tell me that Cook-Out is the thing that comes closest in NC, and it's but a pale imitation. What about 5 guys? 2 weeks ago I would have recommended Cheeburger Cheeburger

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread ssuehle
2 weeks ago I would have recommended Cheeburger Cheeburger as the best burger place in town, but they closed all their NC stores. :( Where did you see this? I was just at the one at Briar Creek a couple of weeks ago and there was no sign of this. Nor is there a press release from the company

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
On Feb 15, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 weeks ago I would have recommended Cheeburger Cheeburger as the best burger place in town, but they closed all their NC stores. :( Where did you see this? I was just at the one at Briar Creek a couple of weeks ago and there was no

Re: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread ssuehle
So sad. -- o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o Scott C Suehle [EMAIL PROTECTED] o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o -- TriLUG mailing list: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/

RE: [TriLUG] Positions with Google in NC

2007-02-15 Thread Jim Ray
2 weeks ago I would have recommended Cheeburger Cheeburger [Jim Ray pontificates] no pepsi. Coke. -- TriLUG mailing list: http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ TriLUG Member Services FAQ :