Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH SAYS: Give us the quotes, Kevin. If they don't specifically say "physical contact" or "sexual intercourse", then your interpretation that is vastly different (and opposite) of my belief, and the belief of all the other LDS folks I know. I've never met an LDS

Re: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ROTFL in the Matchless name of Jesus!!!Daniel Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear David,Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua!!!David, you said:You are welcome here as long as you donot flame other members. We do not allow attacking list members, suchas pronouncing curses on them, nor do we

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did I miss it??? HOW ARE CHILDREN BEGOTTEN?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH SAYS: Give us the quotes, Kevin. If they don't specifically say "physical contact" or "sexual intercourse", then your interpretation that is vastly different (and opposite) of my belief,

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: Did I miss it??? DAVEH: Apparently so. Scroll down to the part I highlighted in BLUE... HOW ARE CHILDREN BEGOTTEN? Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH SAYS: Give us the quotes, Kevin. If they don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
So as Jenny's Dad this would be your answer? LOL I could just about see the look on her face? She would be more confused than ever. Does it have to be so complex? Well back in 1972 was there such a thing as invitro fertilization? (answer is NO) Were there any other ways for a woman to get

[TruthTalk] U2

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Below is an excerpt from the article on U2 from Christianity Todaythat Gary posted which illustrates something I find quite distressing in Christendom today. Aside from the filthy language noted by Kevin (of which I was unaware) and the lead singers personal problems - Look at the way they

Re: [TruthTalk] U2

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Ph 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.Judy Taylor

[TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Bill, Lance and all: I believe I am understanding a little more about what is going on here (some of us are slow) and what you are up tois not all that different from what U2 are doing. You approach God's Word through a certain mindset or tradition which ironically is what you have been

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
Thank you for your concern, Judy. I believe it is heartfelt. I am aware of no stated mission in life to integrate natural science with theology. None at all. They see Aquinas aspart of theproblem just like you do. Thanks again for your concern. Bill - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: So as Jenny's Dad this would be your answer? LOL I could just about see the look on her face? She would be more confused than ever. Does it have to be so complex? DAVEH: The only reason it is complex is because you want to make it such, Kevin. It doesn't seem

RE: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread David Miller
Dave Hansen wrote: Do you believe Jesus is the literal Son of God? Am I allowed to say that Jesus is literally God and figuratively the Son of God? :-) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Dave
David Miller wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: Do you believe Jesus is the literal Son of God? Am I allowed to say that Jesus is literally God and figuratively the Son of God? :-) DAVEH: Sure. I appreciate your comment, as it seems pretty difficult to persuade Kevin to

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
David, I am tempted to say APRIL FOOL'S HA HA HA! and just drop it. Believe me when I say I want to respond to you. I want you to apprehend what I am attempting to communicate. I want that with all of my heart. I do not know if that is possible. Are we asking too much? Is it even a possibility? I

[TruthTalk] Chronic fatigue syndrome?

2004-04-22 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings Jonathan in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! CFS is primarily (though not exclusively) a deficiency of chromium. Would you perchance have been a first born to a young mother? This -- like everything else I post -- is a free will issue. Feel free to

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread giske
Hi David, Below is the entire sentence Bill sent. Your reply to this appalls me. You say you think you can think of worse losses. I can’t. I’ve lost a child. You say you are getting a little nervous when you hear such superlatives being thrown around. You say such usually indicates excessive

Re: [TruthTalk] Elohim takes Mary as wife

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I will answer your question when you answer this one so as not to SIDETRACK the issue. You have not answered the question. You have postulated an unknown procedure that you will not name. Maybe you are refering to the Brigham Young Holy Ghost Theory? If you are postulating babies are born thru

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
Sherrie, I am so sorry for your loss. Know this (I know you do) that your daughter is safely in the arms of Jesus. God bless you and comfort you and strengthen you. I love you, Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:39 AM

Re: [TruthTalk] Wash DC Protest marches

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
There will probably be a lot of news coverage on these 2 events. We will be preaching to both crowds and some sporting events. As of today there have been no violence with the ANTI - IMF crowd. WOMANS MARCH http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/04042005.html Pro-Abortion Protesters Pledge to

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread giske
Bill, Thank you. Your words very much touch my heart. You once said in a post, “I believe the Bible does teach that salvation is entirely of the Lord. It is in appreciation of his love for me that I am obedient of him. I would be irresponsible to be anything less than appreciative and thus

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
When I say "us all" Imean us all --all humanity, not just all Christians. I think, David, that rather try to start at the end, so to speak, and work back from there, I will attempt to start somewhere closer to the beginning. I will try to touch upon some of your questions along the way and

RE: [TruthTalk] Chronic fatigue syndrome?

2004-04-22 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Hi Chris, Thank you for the question. I was the third born (one brother, one sister). I have tried supplementing chromium a bit more for my low blood sugar (hypoglycemia always eating which is never a good thing 50 pounds overweight) but did not notice much of a difference. Feel free

RE: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Bill, I have tears in my eyes as I read this post. Of course I am feeling rather emotional today (my 2 year old son is sick with a bad fever, and silly me I worried about him all day; when I got home he was waiting at the door with a big smile on his face and a car magazine he wanted to

[TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi Sherrie: I'm really sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter; I can't imagine going through something like that. ATST upon reflection don't you think you are being a little hard on DavidM. He has no way of knowing these things unless you tell him. Also I can not see anythinghe said

RE: [TruthTalk] To flame or not to flame

2004-04-22 Thread Daniel Lee
David said: No, Ruben is not allowed to attack you either. I'm sure the list moderator will take care of all such problems privately. I stepped in to talk with you on the list and to make the rules clear because I had some history with you. Daniel responds: And you have no history with

Re: [TruthTalk] Old and WellEstablished Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
Hey Judy, under that old covenant, did a deceased child have to be a believer in order to be saved? How did David know that he would be going to see him? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:51 PM

[TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
I would say that David knew God and His ways.. after all it was God Himself who called David a "man after his own heart" David knew God's covenant promises and He hoped so much in God's mercy and lovingkindness by faith that he stayed before the Lord so long as the child was alive even

Re: [TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
Good response. How about my first question, were you going to answer it too? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines I would say that David

RE: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
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[TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Under the old covenant children were subject to their parents until they were of age and responsible for their own spiritual life. Is this what you meant by 'your first question' Bill? judyt From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good response. How about my first question, were you going to

Re: [TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
So then, they were represented by the faithfulness oftheir parents. Is that the way you understand it? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] New and Strange Doctrines

RE: [TruthTalk] Chronic fatigue syndrome?

2004-04-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
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RE: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
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Re: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread LaurHamm
My friend lost a child and it was a horrible thing to get over. She now says that she thinks of it as her child is not in her past but is in her future! Laura

RE: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
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[TruthTalk] The Paradigm Shift

2004-04-22 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I say "us all" Imean us all --all humanity, not just all Christians. I think, David, that rather try to start at the end, so to speak, and work back from there, I will attempt to start somewhere closer to the beginning. I will try to touch upon some

RE: [TruthTalk] Calvinism

2004-04-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
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Re: [TruthTalk] The Paradigm Shift

2004-04-22 Thread Wm. Taylor
Judy, I'll try to get something out on Calvin's successors (Beza et al) and their systematicdistortion of his thought, but not tonight. I am too tired. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:27 PM

PCWorks: thumbs.db

2004-04-22 Thread BubblyBabs
I've noticed thumbs.db in my folders as well and I don't use Thumbs Plus... Here's a webpage w/ an explanation about it: http://www.fcs.iastate.edu/computer/tips/thumbs/default.htm Babs = PCWorks Mailing List = Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines make

Re: PCWorks: Re: Explorer window size

2004-04-22 Thread Harold B
Regarding Shortcuts (Windows 98 and Outlook Express) Seems to me that there are two kinds of shortcut icons in IE (as seen by the Properties of each). In my case, I'm talking about a shortcut to access GeoCities; though that shouldn't matter. 1. The usual shortcut where the Properties shows two