Re: [TruthTalk] DAVID MILLER AN EVOLUTIONIST?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
David, please: What sort of 'creationist' are you? Did you write complete submit a Ph.D. thesis? What was the title? What were the chapter headings? Would it be possible to read it? Please explain 'worst answer on the entire exam'. Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller

[TruthTalk] Fw: hi Lance, it's Domenic. We met last week.

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Victor Shepherd To: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 20, 2006 07:31 Subject: RE: hi Lance, it's Domenic. We met last week. Lance, while nothing creaturely is the measure of God's holiness, by revelation we are drawn into fellowship with God and

[TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Please explain yourself on this? Isn't this backwards? (i.e. Should the latter be wrong, even very wrong, then, might the former be informed by an incorrect understanding of the 'gospel'. (i.e. again, contract over covenant, fear based preaching etc.)

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
Dean, that is a different position all-together from Judy's. My question for you is, did you realize what you were affirming when answering my question? Bill cd: No Bill -I did not completely understand Judy-I viewChrist as Wholly God Wholly Human and Judy does not. Not do I agree totally

Re: [TruthTalk] Something to think about

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Blaine I believe all the answers are in the Bible if one cares to search enough with believing faith and asking God for the answer-Men have always wanted to give an understanding of God that exists outside of the Bible that why cults profit and the only reason they exist. This started in

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
Now, will you pleasego back to my earlier post and tell me if you think Jesus was the Seed of David according to the flesh, or do you think God make him of some kind of super substance unrelated to Mary and thus unrelated to David and Abraham and everyone else? Thanks, Bill cd: Very well

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
If, when speaking of Jesus, I thoroughly misrepresent and offer up a charicature of Jesus, does this matter? IMO, WHO JESUS IS, is so central to 'our gospel' that removing HIM from the center in our thinking/preaching is to offer up a gospel that is other than 'Christ centered'. IMO, this

[TruthTalk] FYI -www.opensourcetheology.net

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Worth a look for some.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Bill I have condenses articlewritten by Darby: Do you agree with it?If not why? This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are saved, whom God brings to glory, although at their head. It is this which our epistle sets before us — He who sanctifies (the Christ), and they

RE: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
cd; Lance I think you need to start putting up the letter you are asking one to explain? - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 6:19:43 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology? Please explain yourself on

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
One would assume, Dean, that herein lies something of your own understanding on the matter at hand. Why not draw that 'something' from the Darby quote, put it in your own words then, await a reply? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Sorry. This reflects a delayed response to David indicating wherein he appeared to believe the christological controversy to be less important (to him at any rate just now) than his being occupied with the homosexual 'agenda' within your nation. - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 6:41:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man If, when speaking of Jesus, I thoroughly misrepresent and offer up a charicature of Jesus, does this matter? IMO, WHO JESUS IS,

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Taylor
Thanks Dean. I will be preparing a follow-up to this, but not till tonight at the soonest. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to work through these ever important issues. Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Yikes! The vagaries make me feel like I'm reading me. Please, for my sake, say the same thing in other words. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 07:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? One would assume, Dean, that herein lies something of your own understanding on the matter at hand. Why not draw that

[TruthTalk] Fw: funeral

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 21, 2006 08:32 Subject: funeral In about 15 minutes I am going to Toronto to the funeral ofFrau Bertsch, an old family friend who I think was in her 90s. She was oneof my mother'snight school ESL students

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:21:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology? Sorry. This reflects a delayed response to David indicating wherein he appeared to believe the christological

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:50:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Yikes! The vagaries make me feel like I'm reading me. Please, for my sake, say the same thing in other words. cd: It would seem

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Taylor
Yeah, I think that God in Christ actually penetrated to the root of humanity's problem, thus purging sin from within man. I'll say more about this in that post tonight. In the meantime you can start thinking about it like this: God did not just protect the human nature of Jesus from

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
I'm with ya on the 'wicked thingy'. Now, if SPS could just do a 180 and, commence addressing the moralists and the wicked within the churches. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 08:42 Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 8:26:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Ah! This then would put JND in the position of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest that if

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 8:56:00 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology? I'm with ya on the 'wicked thingy'. Now, if SPS could just do a 180 and, commence addressing the moralists and the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
1. Yes 2. I'd call them 'Christian' heretics, Dean. 3. We speak of Jesus Incarnating as A man but, in reality, he was a baby to begin with so, yes a child can understand what Bill Taylor is teaching. 4. That would be like me saying to DM 'practicing homosexuals are believers who fall a

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
In front of/inside which churches, Dean? Say more please concerning Benny Hinn. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 09:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 9:34:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Homosexuality over orthodox christology? In front of/inside which churches, Dean? Say more please concerning Benny Hinn. cd: Too many to count Lance.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 9:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? 1. Yes cd:Then if I prove myself right you will have to live with your hersery or repent to God and others whom you called

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 8:48:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:37:08 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Very well

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Judy exemplifies non-inflammatory language: 'Give me a break' 'He's got his sperm and flesh spread all over the Arab nations for goodness sake' 'adult people who are (hopefully) in their right mind' 'He was not a raving schizophrenic' - Original Message - From: Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
I know this is too long -- but please take the time. I was having one of the moments in the Lord. If doesn't work for you, then it was just for me. I can live with that !! jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: Bill I have condenses

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: funeral

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
Thanks for this. jd -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 21, 2006 08:32 Subject: funeral In about 15 minutes I am going to Toronto to the funeral ofFrau

Re: [TruthTalk] Don Corner

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
Anyone have feedback on Don Corner http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/ashes.htm

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:48:48 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Very well thought out Bill and very well articulated in your below reply. I agree with it andI realize by saying thisit would appear as I am back and forth but one must realize that this debate seems

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Jt pronouncements free of editorial component: 'how crazy does it sound..' 'Jesus..with a nature that follow Satan..' (just a couple I missed last time 'round) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

[TruthTalk] Pretend Moderator

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
One person (unnamed female) is employing too much invective in her posts. Ease up a little and utilize substantive argumentation to make your points. You're beginning to sound just a bit too much like Lance. He thinks you wouldn't appreciate the comparison.

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:06:33 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God entertaining himself ..? There's a kingdom called Heaven,A place where there is no pain of birth.There's a kingdom called Heaven,A place where there is no pain of birth...the Lord created it,

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
Hey, G. You should be getting the new check in the next day or two. If the first one comes, just tear it up. We have canceled it on this end. If you wonder why my wife signs the checks, it has to do with minority ownership. Its a wonderful country. jd -- Original message