Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-30 Thread Judy Taylor
recent posts that cause you to think that he is making such a separation -- or that he is even discussing the use of these two concepts (read:words)? It appears to me that you are just looking for something to argue about. From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com Point

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: bush song

2005-11-30 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance where did you dredge up something like this? Such exquisite deception -some ppl just have too much time on their hands... On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:20:15 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Sent: November 29, 2005 11:15 Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: bush song

2005-11-30 Thread Judy Taylor
readers On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:39:36 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance where did you dredge up something like this? Such exquisite deception -some ppl just have too much time on their hands... On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:20:15 -0500 "Lance Muir&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:03:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:26:04 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Thanx for your advice on this, DavidM...especially considering your time constraints. Not that I want to open another

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:12:37 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How would you be able to discern truth DaveH when you are already deceived by the religion you were either born into or have chosen to follow? DAVEH: It seems pretty obvious to me that at least one of the

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
se in point-at least in terms of your hyperbole) Yet are you able to discern correctly on other matters. What a thing to say to DaveH! IMO dearest Dave has a pretty good handle on TT in the 'deception department'.. From: Judy Taylor On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:12:37 -0800 Dave Han

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
Enough of them. jt On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:22:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all of them, jt? please address this question, too,as you describe 'the record' for us On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:47:59 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Calvin's acts as the spiritual

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:39:58 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean wrote: -No I did not read the entire work-but as you know we can know a tree by its fruit-when A Saints plan and carries out a gruesome death of another Christian and later shows no remorse they have

[TruthTalk] Calvin's Beliefs and the fruit of them in his life

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
Calvin forced the citizens of Geneva to attend church services under a heavy threat of punishment. Since Calvinism falsely teaches that God forces the elect to believe, it is no wonder that Calvin thought he could also force the citizens of Geneva to all become the elect. Not becoming one of

Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Happy Kwanza?

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh Lance - and what is that? On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:12:28 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd be more inclined to ask that we attend to the part played by Christians in generating such a celebration of one's heritage. Yes, dearest detractors, I do comprehend that it was

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
What in the world is "theological history?" Is it religious history revised every seven years or so as is secular history? How about fair treatment for Servetus? He may have been a deceived astrologer but he was not a murderer. On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:47:15 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Happy Kwanza?

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
Ppl in denial Iz have got to find somebody or group to blame - it's like a scapegoat mentality. However, the real culprit - SIN - is never ever mentioned. On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:36:58 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is such blatant, predictable politically

Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Happy Kwanza?

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
be sinning in their speech yet not know it? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 28, 2005 08:42 Subject: Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Happy Kwanza? Ppl in denial I

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
DAVEH: So where's the truth? Judy posted a pretty compelling argument that was diametrically opposed to DavidM's comments. Which is correct? All you have to do, Dave, is read more history from both sides. What you find is that many people spin the facts however they want to spin it. The

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
There is more history to this than you are considering. If you want a more objective historian's viewpoint who still sides against Calvin, consider Schaff's History of the Christian Church. You can read his treatment at http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/history/8_ch16.htm I did go to and read

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-28 Thread Judy Taylor
David, I have Will Durant's book on the Reformation and some other historical type works that say much the same as what Dean is writing. Why do you call these ppl "enemies of Calvin?" I certainly would not seek something written by a "Calvinist" for an objective view and I don't believe you

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

2005-11-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Cain wasn't an Israelite either; he was just a man with a propensity toward sin and no heart for God On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:46:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DaveH ain't Cain, Bro--neither is he an Israelite On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:31:17 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] Theology of violence?

2005-11-27 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:14:12 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, it seemed good to me to deflect this discussion from increasing threats toward DH -- and I still think that the best choice. DAVEH: I appreciate you trying to moderate the pressure of the situation, Bishop.

Re: [TruthTalk] Theology of violence?

2005-11-27 Thread Judy Taylor
somewhere? On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:15:41 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For some reason he loves to get in the middle of these kinds of things judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Christine and, cd. (Linda strikes me as a Proverbs 31 kinda woman. She appears as a friend to the friendless and a raconteur. When she goes beyond one line she is often a delight to read.) From: Judy Taylor You are Bill and not Lance who made the "accus

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Discourse) are: 'You just don't understand' and, 'That's not what I meant'.n bsp; From: Judy Taylor Here we go again - with you illustrating my point made below as well. All five of this mornings linesconsistare solely of your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Why not allow DavidM's wife to speak for herself? You have introduced gossip and heresy here. Were you invited to bepresent for the birth of their children? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: askDavidMs (brainwashed?) wife about this subject, Bro--she

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on ...well....Judy

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
othing else, practice being a little more subtle and you will come across as being more intellectually urbane. :-) Peace be with you.David Miller. From: Judy Taylor Here we go again - with you illustrating my point made below as well. All five of this mornings lines

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy's answer is - In the light of God's Word ... No there will never be "universal reconciliation" ... ever The Geneva convention decries a lot of things but has no power to stop them iethe rapes in Uganda Sin is and will be a problemso long as men love darkness more than light - they judge

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy's question: Why do some ppl find it so hard to accept what they can not change? God's Word has been settled in heaven It is what it is. He does not change and neither does His Word. Yet so many appear to believe they could do it better leaving themselves open to massive deception.

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes ... Hopelessness in the false premise Rejoicing in the real On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:39:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hopelessness; it arises from zero and falseEschatological perspective On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:27:17 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
JD why do you so consistently keep stirring the pot even after an issue has been resolved? Izzy dealt with the issue long ago Dean put forth his suggestion The Moderator has spoken It is now a non-issue, finito - finished - resolved You are wasting mental energy On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:49:55

Re: [TruthTalk] One Question

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
with the lion: universal reconciliation eschatologically, its a promiseof God's On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:46:53 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes ... Hopelessness || judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Of course you are ... and what's more he is better than Moses. Jesus said John the Baptist (not Moses) was the greatest under the Old Covenant and the leastin the Kingdom are greater than he which would include DavidM's wife Caroline. I don't understand your continual tanget about dualism

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
that I believe the one offering is not complete. Per this verse, it is our sanctification which is not yet complete. But I don't expect you to understand that either. Bill From: Kevin Deegan The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bi

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
bother reading your second paragraph. jd-Original Message-----From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 01:32:42 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor You are wrong Bill.

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Cd: 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:24:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Obviously spoken by someone who has never read the man. Not one who has ever read 'The Insitute' would ever say such as this! Borrow

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Then childishness has taken a lot of ppl to heaven and blessed generations for more than 400yrs. It wasn't a single man JD, it was 46 different teams that were sanctified or set apart and worked prayerfully together - so why such vehement opposition from your corner? On Fri, 25 Nov 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] **Moderator Comment** Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Just in case you care JD These six things the Lord hates, yes seven are an abomination to Him: 1. A proud look 2. A lying tongue 3. Hands that shed innocent blood 4. A heart that devises wicked plans 5. Feet that are swift in running to evil 6. A false witness who speaks lies 7. One who

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
What? Did Paul burn no telling how many men and 37 women at the stake for what in his opinion was heresy? On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:17:55 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul did much the same thing. -Original Message-From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
7. One who sows discord among brethren On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:31:30 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Her posted apology was not in existence when you and I wrote our individual comments.The conversation was out of place, but DH is certainly no more at fault than Linda. He went no

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
all candor so would mine, Kevin's, Dean's, John's, and Linda's). The 'unnamed' regularly display a model of 'engagement' that we all might aspire to. From: Judy Taylor Cd: 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 1

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
owever, this doesn't mean you don't do it. It just means that you don't know you're doing it, IMO. From: Judy Taylor What "invective" filled language Lance? Examples please On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:36:37 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
7. One who sows discord among brethren On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:19:32 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that Linda did not take the same level of offense to this as you. Unlike Perry -- I do not understand your outrage. Linda is not your wife. I see this only as an

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles?

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
No JD, what you are ignoring is the Word of the Lord - just a gentle reminder. On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:28:03 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm ignoring you, can't you tell? jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. One who sows discord among brethren On Fri, 25 Nov

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Amazing how the devil jumps in and shuts it down just when it starts getting good isn't it?? Thank you for being a friend, Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.o

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Uh oh! JD has circumvented Wikipedia now and has become smarter than their experts who say . "The only Bible which can legitimately be called a "revision" is the New King James Version, since it is based on the same Greek textsthe Textus Receptus." On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:24:41 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't believe there are any Kevin - Looks like we are stuck with Bill and his Gk revelation alone Now tell me Is it "interpretation, translation, or commentary?" The more JD talks the more confusing it allbecomes. I will have to stop reading him soon On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:07:45

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
ist.But go ahead and disagree with that.You prove nothing by so doing.jd Are you aware JD that "educational accomplishments" which are so exalted by the world can become an idol in the Church. We are all at the mercy of a God who is able to turn the lights on

[TruthTalk] Calvin's beliefs are of Satan, he was an evil man says Dean

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
JD you wrote: "Its not even close. Youaskd for examples when, in fact, you are asking us to convince you that we are right. Impossible. And you have taken your cue from Terry quite well. Now we can expect tohear -- over and over again -that Bill's conversation is so muchabove the rest of

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvin's beliefs are of Satan, he was an evil man says Dean

2005-11-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Exactly ... Just this morning I was thinking about how things have changed andare completely reversed from what they once were. I was reading where Paul in Thessalonica told the ppl he "thanked God without ceasing because when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
l with such because it would force you to acknowledge more than one definition for "judging" and we can't have that, because we are so darn busy sending the other side to hell for "judging" while we do the very same thing. Anyway -- have a happy

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
This is what Lance calls 'concise?' Passing judgment that is void of understanding - critical spirits masquerading as some kind ofbent wisdom? On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:37:42 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (the options are false; thewriter'selimination ofdifficultyis

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
1:37 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'concis[ion]..' void of [jt's] understanding..: On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:57:32 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what Lance calls 'concise?' Passing judgment that is void of understanding - critical spirits masquerading as some k

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond-JD

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
VENGENACE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY SAYS THE LORD (Romans 12:19) On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:26:10 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good comments, below. I havelong believed, i.e. Ro 1:18-29, that the most damaging of all realities is the one tied to this statement by God, "You are on your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
corrector/revisor The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my unders

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
10:31:25 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy's options are scriptural || judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond-JD

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
and has putyou and Kev in charge Preach it , baby -- but LOOK no one is listening. Do you realize, Judy Taylor, that 12:18-19 is actually a statement AGAINST the ankst of personal retaliation? " If possible, as far as it depends ON YOU, be at peace with all men.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
. From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com Your drift is incomprehensible JD and there is no "death blow" because FYI Hebrews 10:14 does not refer to any race ... Oh what a tangled web we weave... Vs.14 here relates to Hebrews 10:9,10 ie: "Then He (Jesus) said

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
So tell me Mr. myth man - what do I think? You seem to think you know better than me. On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:09:53 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (it's not what you think) On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:05:16 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill's statement is way

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond-JD

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
t,Paul is telling us exactly the opposite !! Turkey or crow, today? Which will it be , Miss Judy? :-)From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com I understand the setting JD and just because you don't like it why lie about noone listening; you are not EVERYONE God's righteous

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
outthis? I remain confused. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:05:16 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor I know what you are commenting on JD; However

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
OTECTED] writes: RACE. What is that about?how do you get a race outthis? I remain confused. -Original Message-----From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu,

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-24 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:07:01 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think they were misled by the passage. I think they perceived that you do not perceive the completed aspect of sanctification, and you were trying to use your Greek exegesis skills to make this

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
'perfected'? Dean Moore cd_moore@earthlink.net wrote: cd: see the Bottom of page. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:20:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you see the word "perfected,"as used in Heb 10:14, what does that mean to you. How are we to understandthat we "have been perfected for ever by Christ?"Secondly, with this verse in mind, how have we been

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Bill, you and your Gk Dictionary cohorts are putting yourselves into a very definite doctrinalcorner here. How do you know God is not using the word sanctified to mean "set apart and/or consecrated" as an "unbelieving" wife would be by nature? The more you write the more outlandish and

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Amen! God says "Woe unto those who call evil good" We are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them; for it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light;

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
He chased the thieves and mercenary out of the temple with a whip Lance. Are you now using Jesus as your example rather than SNL? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:30:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks David. As I suspected, no illustrations. From: "David Miller" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] There is just ONE Model who has nothing to do with mud slingers or non mud slingers

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
See Subject line..above On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:48:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who are the 'non-mud slingers' on TT-Read them as a model Bill Taylor, David Christine Miller, Dave Hansen, "G'. IMO, of course. Even such as these have, on occasion, fallen prey to

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WHO ARE THE NON MUD SLINGERS ON TT??

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Selected: "if you live in a glass house...well you know." On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:06:29 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, David Christine Miller, 'G', Dave Hansen (with occasional and understandable expressions of impatience) From:

[TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
This is like a dog chasing it's tail and doing it in Greek compounds the problem. What difference is there betweena mistake and an error? Mistake: To err in opinion or judgment; An error in opinion or judgment, a misconcption 2. A slip; a fault; an error. There is a mistake in the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
es: Fair enough. Do you accept the present passive thrust of this verb? My impression is that you do not. Bill From: Judy Taylor Are you living in some kind of delusion Bill? My understanding of that text remains the same as it was, so please let's deal

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
by someone other than the subject) and not yet complete? Bill From: Judy Taylor I have no idea what you are talking about Bill. However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the word "sanctified" in this instance means "set apart" in the same way that a

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
;Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Mistakes" is the word Dean and I agreed to discuss, Judy. That is what I point out below. Why escalate the rhetoric with loaded words like "error," when that is not necessary? How is that helpful? Bill From: Jud

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
om: Taylor "Mistakes" is the word Dean and I agreed to discuss, Judy. That is what I point out below. Why escalate the rhetoric with loaded words like "error," when that is not necessary? How is that helpful? Bill From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Taylor "Mistakes" is the word Dean and I agreed to discuss, Judy. That is what I point out below. Why escalate the rhetoric with loaded words like "error," when that is not necessary? How is that helpful? Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
So Bill are youdiscouraged by negative comments from the gallery? Do you accept Lance's evaluations at face value? Have you decided in the light of these comments notto explain how mistake and error mean two different things (to you)? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:15:59 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
of another to the exclusion of any other theme !!! I Cor 8:1ff really has the same theme in mind, as well. How in world did you miss this ?? Jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSen

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
an that he did not answer clearly and specifically. JdFrom: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com So Bill are youdiscouraged by negative comments from the gallery? Do you accept Lance's evaluations at face value? Have you decided in the light of these comments notto e

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
writes: He did give such an explanation.Because you disagreed with his statement does not mean that he did not answer clearly and specifically. JdFrom: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.com So Bill are youdiscouraged by negative comments from the

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
14:4. You need to practice what you preach. JdFrom: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD why do you hang everything on meats which is what is under dispute in Romans 14. In other places believers are told not to even eat with a brother given over to certain sins such as f

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:42:23 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Ro 1: 18-25 is a statement ofcircumstances failed and , as such, find the sinner given over to his own creation. Romans 1 speaks of what happens to people who hold the truth in unrighteousness. That

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Right On!! How hard is that? I note that being perfected by the Blood of Jesus requires repentance from 'dead works' Thanks Izzy On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:36:32 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are perfected through the Blood of Jesus, which washes away our sins and

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
AMEN!!! :) \0/ On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:29:31 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sanctified means set apart for holy use. When I was saved I was set apart for holy usethen, now and forever. I can either allow that to continue, or I can interfere by choosing to sin

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
up their Private Interpretation of the "ONE OFFERING as an ON GOING EVENT" Theology!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about Bill. However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the word "sanctified" in this insta

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
hose who do not know that they are living in sin? (i.e., "I came to save the sinners, not the righteous")Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:42:23 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Ro 1: 18-25 is a st

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Neither will heacknowledge that Jesus chased thieves out of the temple yet he castigates DavidM for chasing a thief at the University of Florida On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:12:37 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
"The point of the book of Romans is two-fold (at least through chapter 8) --we are sinners andstill dealing with sin issues AND God in Christ saves us anyway.If this is so thenHe needs to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:18:46 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wri

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understanding the active part of sanctificationrequires the cooperation of the one being sanctified; the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
ention. Do you agree that this participle in Heb 10.14 reflect asanctification which is passive (i.e., the action is being performed by someone other than the subject) and not yet complete? Bill From: Judy Taylor I have no idea what you are talking

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
theissue being discussed. Judging the servant of another is. The issues surrounding the eating of meats and observing holy days gave Paul the circustance to discussion the principle described in 14:4. You need to practice what you preach. Jd-----Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
writes: The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understan

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
what grounds do you say the baby believers at Corinth were "obviously" saved. Do you know that they held fast firm to the end or is it your own peculiar doctrine that tells you that they made it?" If we say that we are having no sin we deceive

[TruthTalk] Book of Enoch

2005-11-23 Thread Judy Taylor
It's discussed at the website below as occult and there is a download for it there. I have it but have not read it yet, a pastor I receive Newsletters from was talking about it and so I was curious. Seems like it addresses the evil in the world, angelic watchers etc. and a quote from it is

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: Evaluating the New International Version Interesting answer Lance, So what are you saying? Should God's Word be dumbed down to accommodate pagan animistic cultures? On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:09:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend, John Wilson, worked with the Yali

[TruthTalk] Another baseless Accusation...

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Could it be that California rarified air? You need to own your own error JD and do the right thing by taking responsibility. You wrote: You continually speak of the NASV as a book that removes the words of Christ -- something that is untrue. Is my only choice to call you a liar because

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
about snow, bread, etc. Get him a Little Golden Book and show and tell On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:52:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No Judy, I am not saying (meaning) that! Anyone care to explain my MEANING to Judy? From: Judy Taylor Interesting an

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Now this is "comedy" time - for sure. JD reflecting a combination of exegesis, exposition, and theological instinct? You have just categorized the things you hold most dear and JD reflects them when he will not even tell the truth on TT? For your sake Lance I pray there will come a time

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Hmmm - Just as I thought, the Holy Spirit has been fired and men have taken over; men who exalt Greek present passive verbs.. Are we in the last days with apostasy and falling away or what?? judyt Is there someone here who speaks Judy's language that could maybe explain to her the meaning

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
So what has all this got to do with the ministry of the Holy Spirit. God can save by few or by many and what is too hard for Him? Believe it or not the Holy Spirit is bilingual also. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:25:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes Virginia, there really are

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
NO HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING OF THE KIND. HE IS CONFRONTING YOU WITH YOUR OWN WORDS - be honest jd, own up. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:56:23 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is exactly why I do not accept anything that Kevin says as authoritative. When you rip a person's

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
what I am reading am I safe in assuming that the Authorized Version has been exonerated on this issue anyway David? Peace be with you.David Miller. From: Judy Taylor Hmmm - Just as I thought, the Holy Spirit has been fired and men have taken over; men w

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
OK Kevin God has spoken ... so now forever hold your peace. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:13:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin asks Shouldn't it be translated "BEING MADE PERFECT"? No. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

2005-11-22 Thread Judy Taylor
You might be all for discussion JD but it is a waste time trying to dialogue with ppl who have a problem withtruth Probably better use of one's time would be to start a jail ministry ... On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:14:11 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know what, deegan -- I

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