Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
ch believe that the Scriptures are operative in your life. I just believe your interpretations of them to be 'hit and miss', just like everyone else ('ceptin some are better at it than you) From: Judy Taylor Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you receive interpretation t

Re: [TruthTalk] For Dean

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
, Kevin! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 19, 2005 08:47 Subject: [TruthTalk] For Dean I'll pray for your localchurch home pilgrimage also .. thanks for sharing. judyt

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS THAT I, LANCE, NEITHER UNDERSTAND NOR BELIEVE 'THEM' Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
ch believe that the Scriptures are operative in your life. I just believe your interpretations of them to be 'hit and miss', just like everyone else ('ceptin some are better at it than you) From: Judy Taylor Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you receive

Re: [TruthTalk] Seldom is not never, Judy re:J. Finis Dake

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
:09:29 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS: I do have a life. PPS: I don't carry the WC. I'm not that big on it. Apparently those who wish to hear from it can attend your church (you do CHOOSE to go there do you not?) From: Judy Taylor Apparentl

Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
ous charge is it, Judy? From: Judy Taylor You couldn't make this kind of a judgment call unless you considered yourself to have apprehended ALL TRUTH which would put you in the position to judge in your own estimation. On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:52 -0500 &

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
to is the false. On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:18:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NOT, I repeat NOT, amongst some of the 'reformed believers' who regularly shop in this store. Like I've said concerning you on occasion, y'all otta get out more. From: J

Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
omatically eliminate the MC and DavidM has reasons for wanting them here; alsoJesus Himself said to let the wheat and tares grow together. The angels will do the separating soon enough and in that day the judgment will be perfect. From: Judy Taylor You just love

[TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Your response to the narrow path and the strait gate is as follows - why? Where does the dualism come from? A the good old dualistic narrow path! judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)

Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
used ME of blasphemy. By extension you've similarly accused the 'trio' as you call them.Kicked off or not, I should like for this to go ahead. 'Blaspheming' is serious business, Judy. From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:38:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
e it, Gary identifies it, so do John and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha? When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible perch. From: Judy Taylor Your response to

Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
quot;Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus. From: Judy Taylor You didn't answer my question

[TruthTalk] Significance of the Incarnation

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
You write: You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus. Do you actually believe your salvation comes through Jesus' humanity Lance? What does that mean

Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm talking about God's moral law Terri and Jesus did not negate any of that. The ceremonial law was for the Levitical priesthood which has passed away. He is now our Prophet, Priest, and King. Jesus Commandments are the Spirit of the Law which as you say is based on Love, but then so is

Re: [TruthTalk] Empty-headed regard for it (Scripture?) Accute disdane for (his) people (living dead)

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
accute disdain for (his) ppl that ppl like you exhibit On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 07:14:48 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I try to stick with scripture -in spite of your belief that all I h

Re: [TruthTalk] Who blasphemes?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
use I think he also believes sumpin like this. From: Judy Taylor Your response here indicates ignorance Lance When the Holy Spirit gives understanding there is no interpretation involved One either understands or they don't .. just like a fore

[TruthTalk] For Terry

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you

[TruthTalk] For Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
You have not answered my question Lance ... are you going to ignore this one also? You wrote: You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus. Do you

Re: [TruthTalk] Do believers really disagree on anything?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm not David but since you are including my name in this also - You wrote; "Blasphemy" has nothing to do with the attitude or state of the heart, in and of itself. It is an action. Speaking out of the mouth is action also - would you agree? and this action comes out ofthe abudance

Re: [TruthTalk] For Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
experience and clearly, from God. Your response? Ignore, ignore , ignore. jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have not answered my question Lance ... are you going to ignore this one also? You wrote: You are a tripartate who has

Re: [TruthTalk] For Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Arrogance? Where does that perception come from? Don't answer that - I know. On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:28:45 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arrogance will get you nowhere. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't understand it JD, It was incomprehensible to me

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in God's Word should not really disagree on anything?

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not David but since you are including my name in this also - You wrote; "Blasphemy" has nothing to do with the attitude or state of the heart, in and of itself. It is an ac

Re: [TruthTalk]Case Closed

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
d the Lord; however, God does say that one who is unable to separate the precious from the vile can not be his spokesperson. Your inability to answer the questions posted is evidence of that fact. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:2

Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
wisely, especially at this time of year so I will follow her example and sign off for now. . Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season, judyt On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:56:34 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Who has been banned? DaveH received a last warning,he apparently got offended and banned himself and now Blaine ahs taken up an offense for him and possibly you also Lance.. Why? On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:21:06 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once banned, I assume that such may

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets' Christian/s? On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:39 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || Matt 7:11 is a scripture that is used to encourage people to seek the Baptism in the Holy Spirit... jt

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
? On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CPL, Are [Bible] readers whobelieve that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets' Christian/s? On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:39 -0500 Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
You've definitely thought it through; after the first week I never did believe they were here to learn anything other than possibly tips on how to better prepare their Missionaries. I've heard that those boys/girls have all the answers. I don't know about Perry being rabid. He has

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
of the HS for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets' Christian/s? On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:39 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || Matt 7:11 is a scripture that is used to encourage people to seek t

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
be classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and desist from your unfounded allegations hereafter.Stick to that which you claim to understand, please?. From: Judy Taylor Sure they do, they camp around John Calvin don't they? Why do you think there are so many different doctrines al

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
] writes: CPL, Are [Bible] readers whobelieve that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS for the already converted'sums up the Law and Prophets' Christian/s? On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:39 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
ually read. Do you possess anything whatsoever by him? If all that you know of him would be classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and desist from your unfounded allegations hereafter.Stick to that which you claim to understand, please?. From: Judy Taylor Sure they do, they c

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
when all they had to do was accept the right teaching about theincarnation? On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:52:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy:Please expand on 'The Baptism of Jesus' as you've come to understand it?. From: Judy Taylor Why wouldn'

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
any reading of primary source material (2 vol Institutes, Commentaries). It's akin to hearing an atheist condemn the teachings of the Scriptures based upon the same sort of evidentiary inquiry that you've conducted with John Calvin. From: Judy Taylor Would Calvinistic heresay b

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
f advent Judy,it is difficult to over emphasize the significance of the INCARNATION! Do you believe in baptism in the name of The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit or baptism in the name of Jesus ONLY? From: Judy Taylor It is all over the scriptures Lance - Promised in

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
of compliment, Judy) From: Judy Taylor I wonder if the Bereans had done any reading of primary source material when they examined what Paul preached. Also the apostle John, I wonder if he had read source materialwhen he exhorted 1st Century Christians not to even

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
True - this is insulting Lance when most of what Kevin Deanpost are their own writings which are from Mormon sources. No point in confronting them with the Bible alone since they have no frame of reference because they are blinded by Mormon teachings which do not make any sense to meand

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
orthcoming? From: Judy Taylor I have yet to hurl anepithet anywhere Lance. My objectionto Calvinism is for some very specific reasons with or without "firsthand knowledge or intricate and specific detail" about Calvin the man.His teachings are enough. I wil

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Only for those with ears to hear what the Holy Spirit is saying - some are more interested in the teachings of "other spirits" On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:36:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'THESE GUYS' speak a TRUTH capable of being understood, WITH THE AID OF THE SPIRIT OF

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
There does that make you feel better? .. On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:43:01 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only for those with ears to hear what the Holy Spirit is saying - some are more interested in the teachings of "other spirits" On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:36:52 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
e to know our enemy for truth sheds a bright light onhim already. The Bible teaches to look at their fruits and their works is what God Judges every man by-so we can also use God tool to know them. From: Judy Taylor I have yet to hurl anepithet anywhere Lance. My o

Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Calm down JD - the Moderator has already taken care of all this by himself. On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:53:50 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Judy -- understand tht DH did not take himself off the list. -- Original message -- From: "Charles Perry Locke"

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
rstand scritpture - although such a statement involves a judgment. It is judging , however, when you put yourself in the place of God and make your determinations.jd By stating that I do not understand scripture Lance is putting himself in the place of God and so are you. Fr

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
in many instances. jd It may appear ridiculous to you JD but then God takes pleasure in hiding things from those who think themselves wise and prudent andHe likesrevealing things to babes. From: Judy Taylor I have yet to hurl anepithet

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
following especially since you are pleased to accommodate Calvinism - you'd probably fit right in. On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:27:22 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your pastors name? Sounds as though he has it going on ! jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
?? From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] He does JD and if he left almost the whole church would go with him. It is definitely "he" who has it "going on" rather thanthe Lord. You would like him. You could laugh at all his jokes appreciate all

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:45:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: absolute nonsense. We are told to oppose the false teacher, correct? This implies that we can make judgments as to whether one understands or not. You do it[judgeother's understandingin regard to thewritten word] all the time --

[TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
JD Lance's savior writes: Where has Lance ever judged your faith in God and Christ, your commitment to scripture, your claim to salvation , or your practice of the faith? NOWHERE. You , on the other, make such sommits a way of life. The following JD is a judgment; Lances judgment with

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-18 Thread Judy Taylor
as putting words in my mouth. You don't know the pastor, the situation, or even what he preaches - yet you are more opinionated than even me. On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:41:36 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh of course you do. This very response proves it !! :-) jd From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi Dean: You write: cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the conclusion of this debate. The light is now giving to ALL men and Gods laws are written in the hearts of ALL men therefore they will have no excuse for rejection of Christ nor breaking the Law- I don't think I

[TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Since ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God These should put to rest whether or not unregenerates have God's Law written on their hearts (in them) and whetherit is possible for them to do "by nature" the things that are written in God's Law as per Rom 2:14,15 Paul writes tothe

[TruthTalk] FYI Fresh Baked Bread (by Ken Mathews)

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Fresh Baked Bread*Yes, he humbled you by letting you go hungry and then feeding youwith manna, a food previously unknown to you and your ancestors. Hedid it to teach you that people need more than bread for their life;real life comes by feeding on every word of the LORD.

Re: [TruthTalk] FYI Fresh Baked Bread (by Ken Mathews)

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
I like it too ... Agreement!!! ... It must be Christmas :-) judyt On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:05:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wonderful! Thanks for this. Fresh Baked Bread*Yes, he humbled you by letting you go hungry and then feeding youwith manna,

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
e of elitist 'mammon' in sum, the effectiveteaching of the verse, below,is exactly the reverse of your manipulative intent On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:46:01 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind.

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
: you manipulate it too, as clearly proven On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:28:17 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || I quote..scripture as written in the KJV Bible judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine, DaveH kicked himself off. The Moderator told him that it was his last warning - that's all... because they kept ignoring him and went on with a thread he told them to take offline. Who told you he was kicked off?? judyt On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:10:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
,re-think tryin' to manipulate me: terman issue 'old', then, (try to) force it to become redundant--you'll cement your combative reputation only at your own expense On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:56:08 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where and how? Evidence please? Your

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
... You sure don't read too accurately do you JD? On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:48:10 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your view that Mattt 7:11 is talking about the reception of the baptism of the Holy spirit is the most recent case in point. jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Your explanation is used to argue against points that I have made. Why would you use angument against me that you do not believe. So much for illumination. jd -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read what I

Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles

2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dylan land..where 'the whip that's keeping you in line doesn't make him jump,Say he's hard-of-hearin', say that he's a chump, he's out of step with reality as you try to test his nerve because he doesn't pay

[TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
JD And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We can either attach ourselves to this reality and inherit life or we can refuse the only

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you?) THEN, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THUS.This response is to your saying 'AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT IT'. ATY Judy! (According to you, Judy!) From: Judy Taylor JD And so it is, that man (in Ro

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
I was reading in Romans 12, the last phrase of verse ten says "honor one another, preferring one another" The world teaches the exact opposite, but if we follow this guideline, we willhavepeace and calm. Paul also writes about the same thing in Phillipians 2:3 So thanks Dean for your

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ATY Judy! (According to you, Judy!) From: Judy Taylor JD And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all abou

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi Terry, where would you get that idea? On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.Judy Taylor wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We can either attach

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
to believe that this is ALWAYS the case. IFF 'they' (John, Bill, "G'") read this post then, I should appreciate having them say this in their own words and, once and for all, clarify this issue so that we might move on. From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
.Judy Taylor wrote: JD And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We can either attach

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
to the kingdomjusttogleefullyinstructGod himselfto changethe locks and bar the doors (for them)--its dualism, not biblicism On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:28:48 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || only come to Christ one way..by being drawn by the Father through the Spirit

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ithink I agree with this. I hope you do because it is Jesus who said "I am the Way, the Truth the Life, no man comes to

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Gary do you ever get weary from all this psychobabble? On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:14:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (that's a dangerous platitude whilethere is division in your own theology fromyour own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined at the hip

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
fancy'? I WOULD SAY SO, YES! From: Dean Moore cd: You are right on the money sister-hang in there:-) From: Judy Taylor Then it is past time to do some more figuring Lance because you have missed the boat so to speak. I am not abo

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. From: Judy Taylor You are doing with my words what your mentors do

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
n to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. From: Judy Taylor You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjectin

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
urse, 2000 years later by Judy Taylor. jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who is trying to kill you, Blaine, or anyone else JD. Don't make this into something it's not. The men Jesus was speaking to were going to stone the adultress to death but noone said a

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
in the subject line above? What does it say JD? From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] What on earth are you talking about JD? I understand that Jesus was teaching at the Mt. of Olives and it was early in the morning. There were ppl there listening to him teach

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
with at a later time? Why would you want to add your own speculation to what is written? 3. Who are you accusing in the subject line above? What does it say JD? TruthTalk ??!! From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
This is quite rich coming from one who consistently maintains that noone can know anything anyway. I guess you are the only one around here with a valid opinion now Lance (according to you that is) and from what I read you don't believe there is any such thing as "objective truth" anyway so

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
And let's add those who believe they are HONEST yet are only willing to see the other guys faults . On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:22:33 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: those who believe themselves to be WITHOUT SIN Are there Christian perfectionists on TT?All those that

Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
We should make accusing each other personally a matter to be discussed offline. I find these constant accusations to be both discouraging and wearying - are we interested in Truth or not? Why give the enemy a platform to tear each other down. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:01:13 -0800 Dave Hansen

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
This list is called Truth Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions orme. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:51:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me attempt something, Judy. WITH WHAT FREQUENCY THEN, DO YOU EXHIBIT THIS 'TRUE HIMILITY'? From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Garden Atonement

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
But apparently it leaves us bereft in our own personal mess at least in your economy Lance since you are wanting to allude to and/or point out or at least have others confess their own sinon TT ... For what purpose? On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:49:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
writes: Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?Judy Taylor wrote: Hi Terry, I don't know that any of us would say that they are "self satisfied" in fact not even Paul himself said that. What he did s

Re: [TruthTalk] Garden Atonement

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
to a direct question. 'Slip slidin' away' From: Judy Taylor But apparently it leaves us bereft in our own personal mess at least in your economy Lance since you are wanting to allude to and/or point out or at least have others confess their own sinon TT ...

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
ton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?Judy Taylor wrote: Hi Terry, I don't know that any of us would say that they are "self satisfied" in fact not ev

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:18:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YOUR OPINIONS re: the MEANING OF THE SCRIPTURES YOU CITE ARE WHAT, IMO, I AND OTHERS READ MOST OF THE TIME. I can live with that. Can you? From: Judy Taylor This list is called Truth

[TruthTalk] Tozer says ......

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
"If God can be understood and comprehended by any of our humans means, then I cannot worship Him. One thing is sure. I will never bend my knees and say "Holy, holy, holy," to that which I have been able to decipher and figure out in my own mind!"

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
see things somewhat differently. It may indeed be due to my own poor communication skills. From: Judy Taylor I don't agree but then I'm sure this is no news to you. When I cite scripture - you either receive it by faith as God's Word or you read it as a dead letter

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
to cite the Matthean geneaology in support of some unrelated matter, it'd be GOD'S WORD TO BE SURE, JUDY BUTYou do attempt to connect the citation to the matter at hand, do you not? From: Judy Taylor I don't agree but then I'm sure this is no news to you. W

Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
you speak of as 'both discouraging and wearying'. Would you not acknowledge this to be the case? From: Judy Taylor We should make accusing each other personally a matter to be discussed offline. I find these constant a

Re: [TruthTalk] THE TRUTH IS A PERSON

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
PPS: Yes they are... Just as you and your word are one and the same. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:20:47 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy: Once again, Amen Amen! PS: The Person the book are not one and the same! From: Judy Taylor I don't thin

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
beliefs then, I am criticizing your person and, vice versa. Kevin et al do the same with the Mormons. I've asked you previously. I shall ask you once again. Is there a great gulf between who you are and what you say (believe)? From: Judy Taylor Now if you had said Jo

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
PROTECTED] writes: Ignorance, thy name is Judy! From: Judy Taylor You say the words Lance but your actions say you are adouble-minded man.If youbelieved in the authority of God's Word then it would be impossible for you ATST toendorse Barth/Torrance, and

Re: [TruthTalk] THE TRUTH IS A PERSON

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor PPS: Yes they are... Just as you and your word are one and the same. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:20:47 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy: Once again, Amen Amen! PS: The Person the book are not one

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
zing the'deceived' as you put it, Judy. The difficulty is that some who are, in reality deceived, believe themselves to be 'in the truth' do they not? From: Judy Taylor Meaning that all evangelism and preaching the gospel should cease because we can not be critical of any

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
f you as your own 'FANCY THEOLOGIAN'. Over time one cannot but note that others have thought similarly. The 'Judy theology' is generally well researched and, on the whole, readable. From: Judy Taylor And I've been attempting to say to you that there is such a thin

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
And why are you deliberately trying to tweak Linda? She is a godly woman and It's time to 'get a life' JD. Opinions are out, well thought out discussion ideas and/or personal anecdotes are in along with godly speech that will edify and encourage those who read you ... Are you up to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
demon spirit indwelling my computer -- No? jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD why do I get two (2) of everything you send to the Truth Talk list; are you emphasizing or is it a bug in the works? On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:32:48 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
check again JD - it is still working with you and yours.. No problem here!! On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:16:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sent it to your computer. jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any demon spirit is indwelling you or your computer

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