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2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 22, 2006 14:23 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I think the stumbling block for those coming from a viewpoint like Judy's is that Jesus could not have been an acceptable sacrifice for us

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2006-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/22/2006 12:32:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man cd: No Bill -I did not completely understand Judy-I viewChrist as Wholly God Wholly Human and Judy does not. Not do I agree

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2006-01-22 Thread Taylor
sins of the people;for in that he himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to aid those who are tempted" (See Heb 4.15, and 2.14-18). Amen Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, Janua

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2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
Dean, that is a different position all-together from Judy's. My question for you is, did you realize what you were affirming when answering my question? Bill cd: No Bill -I did not completely understand Judy-I viewChrist as Wholly God Wholly Human and Judy does not. Not do I agree totally

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2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 06:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Dean, that is a different position all-together from Judy's. My question for you is, did you realize what you were affirming when

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2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 6:41:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man If, when speaking of Jesus, I thoroughly misrepresent and offer up a charicature of Jesus, does this matter? IMO, WHO JESUS

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2006-01-21 Thread Taylor
: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Dean, that is a different position all-together from Judy's. My question for you is, did you realize what you were affirming when answering my question? Bill

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2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Man - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 6:41:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man If, when speaking of Jesus, I thoroughly misrepresent and offer up

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2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:50:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Yikes! The vagaries make me feel like I'm reading me. Please, for my sake, say the same thing in other words. cd: It would seem

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2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
I corrected Judy's only disagreement with my understanding of her position, Dean. So may I ask that you please go through it and then answer my question? And Judy, may I ask you to go point by pointthrough my summary of your position andtell me where and how I have misrepresented it?

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2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man By the way, Judy, the reason the Phariseescould not answer Jesus'question was because they were denying his divinity: that he was God. My question for you is, What

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2006-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/18/2006 11:08:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Hebrews 2.11-18. (11) For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed

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2006-01-19 Thread Lance Muir
'I read this to be saying'!! May we put that other matter to bed once and for all, DM/JT? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 19, 2006 08:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

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2006-01-19 Thread Judy Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:35:58 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ce

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2006-01-18 Thread Lance Muir
Bill revised his comments, Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 17, 2006 15:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Thank you Dean, It is really

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2006-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 10:54:06 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man CD I wrote a statement of Mary/Christ seedbefore I read yours Bill. Yes, Dean, I read it, andI am familiar with it; in fact I

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2006-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:02:31 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Dean -- if I came into the house and told said, Dean !!! There's a thing outside. cd: Dean would say "

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:15:53 -0700 "T

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2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
I do not and have not ever deniedthat Jesus came the first time in "pure and holy" flesh Bill just as the scriptures day - which factis something that you refuse to accept or else fail to grasp no matter how many times I type it. On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:00:38 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL

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2006-01-18 Thread Lance Muir
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 18, 2006 08:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I do not and have not ever deniedthat Jesus came the first time in "pure and holy" flesh Bill just as the scriptures day - which factis something that you

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2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
How ironic that you know everything that DM knows Lance and yet so consistently malign him personally. Maybe he knows a whole lot more than you think he knows... and could it be possible that BT does not know nearly as much as you give him credit for. If you and BT grasp my meaning Lance

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2006-01-18 Thread Lance Muir
Not maybe, Judy! He does know much more than I. He is much brighter than I also. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 18, 2006 09:31 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither

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2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
t, of the seed (sperma) of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel," (2Tim 2.8). - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subje

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
Christ." Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Jesus Himself and I agree

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I explained this the other day, Judy; in fact you may return to my post on Acts 3.36 if you like. This is a statement -- and

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2006-01-18 Thread knpraise
ade this Jesus, whom you crucified, both LORD and Christ (Son of David)." Bill - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I explained this the other day, Judy; in f

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2006-01-18 Thread knpraise
Acts 2.36: "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both LORD and Christ (Son of David)." Bill - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [T

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David."H

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/18/2006 8:19:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man The question is still out there. What person among us indwelt with the Holy Spirit could deny that Jesus Christ, the Seed of David

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I explained this the other day, Judy; in fact you ma

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
all-together from Judy's. My question for you is, did you realize what you were affirming when answering my question? Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

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2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

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2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
cified, both LORD and Christ (Son of David)." Bill - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
Hebrews 2.11-18. (11) For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Dean, when I read this, I understand the writer to be saying that Christ and us are all physical descendants of the same person, the same

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
t you hate me. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I'm not here - I've been out for the evening. On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:11:02 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, Judy, the reason the Phariseescould not answer Jesus'question was because they w

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man I'm not here - I've been out for the evening. I don't agree with your reasoning Bill. Jesus has already said why the Pharisees could not understand or hear His Word. It is because they had a different father than he did. On Wed, 18

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2006-01-18 Thread Taylor
I corrected Judy's only disagreement with my understanding of her position, Dean. So may I ask that you to please answer my question? Bill Certainly I think Jesus was born of God, Dean. And I will be glad to address that aspect of his person. But before going there I would like to clearly

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2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 8:37:00 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same

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2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 9:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30

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2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Do you know that he was ever sick or infirm because of generational curses? Oppressed by demons. Depressed? Well, of course He got sick. He was like us in every respect. No one I know is demon oppressed as you count demons. Depressed? He cried

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
st, of the seed (sperma) of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel," (2Tim 2.8). - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@ma

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dean Moore - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
nglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
, 2006 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Jesus is the seed of the woman as the prophecy in Genesis foretells. He was fathered by the Holy Spirit Now if you want to say that the Holy Spirit is the "sperma" of David; I know that prophetically he

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
--- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that h

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 9:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David'

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What person among us indwelt with the Holy Spirit could deny that Jesus Christ was born with David's blood running through his veins? - Original Message - From: Taylor

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Mary might be David's lineage but she doesn't have loins does she?However, he was to be the seed of the woman - the other scriptures are good. Thanks. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:14:37 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECT

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 9:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man From: Taylor Luke writes

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2006-01-17 Thread Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
nd Morning Star." -- Rev 22.16 - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
From you, Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Noone is saying that Jesus did

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2006-01-17 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man The devil's seed is a spiritual seed and so is the seed of the woman which is born by way of the Holy Spirit. Why is there such a big brouhaha over this? Oh I forgot "Orthodoxy" On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:24:40 -

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
Talk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Jesus is the seed of the woman as the prophecy in Genesis foretells. He was fathered by the Holy Spirit Now if you want to

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:40:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man and in that he was unlike us, as we do not have a divine nature, cd: Here is where we differ- If we have the indwelling spirit

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:49:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Noone is saying that Jesus did not have a flesh body from his birth on - Not here anyway; so

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
] Jesus , neither God nor Man - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:40:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man and in that he was unlike us, as we do not have

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2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:54:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man And David is a direct descendant of Eve, is he not? Thus the Seed promised to Evepassed through Abraham, through David

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2006-01-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 8:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man All of that is fine and dandy, Dean. Do you misunderstand me when I say Jesus is divine, which means Jesus is God? Bill cd: Do we

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man And David is a direct descendant of Eve, is he not? Thus the Seed promised to Evepassed through Abraham, through David, and to Christ, through the woman, Mary. You are rejecting MUCH when you reject this. If they

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2006-01-17 Thread knpraise
. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star." -- Rev 22.16 - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "Men and brethren, l

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2006-01-17 Thread knpraise
aylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 8:37:00 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same as common man --or statements like "he learned

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Are

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2006-01-17 Thread knpraise
nglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 8:37:00 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same as common man --or statements like "he learned obedience from the things he

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
lk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Thank you Dean, On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:42:57 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: I wrote a statemen

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/17/2006 7:54:17 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man And David is a direct

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
Correction below in bold. - Original Message - From: Taylor It is really sad that Bill says I can't be saved unless I accept his kind of orthodoxy. No, Bill is using theBible to correct you, and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy. You want to

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2006-01-17 Thread Taylor
Correction below in bold. - Original Message - From: Taylor It is really sad that Bill says I can't be saved unless I accept his kind of orthodoxy. No, Bill is using theBible to correct you, and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy. You want to

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2006-01-17 Thread knpraise
An excellent set of propositions , Bill. W truly excellent post. jd -- Original message -- From: "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Correction below in bold. - Original Message - From: Taylor It is really sad that Bill says I can't be saved unless I accept his

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2006-01-17 Thread knpraise
nal Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Are you saying, Judy, that Mary is not of David's lineage? You had better think this through, as Jesus absolutely must be of the Seed of

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:15:53 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is really sad that Bill says I can't be saved unless I accept his kind of orthodoxy. No, Bill is using theBible to correct you, and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy. You don't have

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2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
ead according to my gospel," (2Tim 2.8). - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God n

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2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
Exactly !!! As an on looker (you can thank me later) , it is obvious thatJudy neither thinks Christ to be God (incarnate) nor fully human (incarnate). No wonder she objects to the word INCARNATE. Under no circumstance, is Jesus incarnate. The fact that John 1:14 has no meaning to Judy as

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2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewedwith new material,unrelated to fallen humankind; No, he is human like David was human, born on our sideof the fall. And to the naysayers Jesus said, "Before

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2006-01-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly

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2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
al Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

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2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewedwith new material,unrelated

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2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): Not exactly Bill "David being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
- From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewedwith new material,unrelated to fall

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
Moore - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewedwith

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
Judy, you make a good point. But the fact remains that Peter did say this. And an audience of thousands heard these very words. They (the audience) has no other opinion on the subject than what they hear Peter say -- how could they not understand that Christ is born of the David's loin and NOT

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's B

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
udy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hencehewas not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewedwith new material,unrelated

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
Judy, you are not the Holy Spirit. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What do

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
t, of the seed (sperma) of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel," (2Tim 2.8). - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
6, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had swo

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star." -- Rev 22.16 - Original Message - From: Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What person among us indwelt with the Holy Spirit could deny that Jesus Christ was born with David's blood running through his veins? - Origin

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
s is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world." 1John 4.3 - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What person among us i

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread knpraise
have heard was coming, and is now already in the world." 1John 4.3 - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man What person among us indwelt with the Holy Spirit coul