Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-15 Thread Lance Muir
It's not, in my opinion,them and us. It's just us. We are those very imperfect people. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 14, 2004 18:17 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle I also saw it as an example of how even

[TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Do you mean The Apostle with Robert Duval? What did you think was the moral of the story? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A little kindness

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/14/2004 8:42:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you mean The Apostle with Robert Duval? What did you think was the moral of the story? Izzy moral of the story ??? I saw it as "a few days in the life." In the beginning, he was a very convoluted

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
I also saw it as an example of how even very imperfect people can be used by the Lord for good. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Slade Henson
spirit" or "have no need for a man to teach them." -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Monday, 14 June, 2004 11:41To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Do you

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Slade, Good points indeed. What do you see as the solution to your last sentence? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle I saw

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Slade Henson
Jude 21-23 -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Monday, 14 June, 2004 19:22To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Slade, Good points indeed. What do you see

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/14/2004 3:18:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also saw it as an example of how even I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"very imperfect people can be used by the Lord for good. Izzy Exactly. There are two kinds of saved people -- those who are

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/14/2004 3:47:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the movie as well, but I was disturbed by it. While John saw positive aspects to it, I am the opposite. I saw how easily it is for a man (a leader with little or no accountability) to fall from grace

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Maybe I dont remember the movie as well as I thought, but I thought the Duval character was already saved, but just feel into sin and then repented and felt called to become an apostle. Izzy I believe his conversion was real (in the movie) but the Lord's physical judgment was

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 6:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle In a message dated 6/14/2004 3:18:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
] The Apostle Jude 21-23 -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Monday, 14 June, 2004 19:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Slade, Good points indeed. What do you see

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/14/2004 7:41:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I dont remember the movie as well as I thought, but I thought the Duval character was already saved, but just feel into sin and then repented and felt called to become an apostle. Izzy Was he an

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-06-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/14/2004 7:44:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly. There are two kinds of saved people -- those who are described by Paul as "carnal " and those who are spiritual. Those descroptions mark the growth of each and every Christian. Do you think if one

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle

2004-05-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, I think some people like the fact that the Lord can use even very flawed people for his glory--even if it is only on a very small scale. The Apostle certainly wasn't a primer on how to live the Christian life. But it did give you a real flavor of that culture, which is interesting in

RE: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
Who is a 7th Day Adventist? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony My position is not that one

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-23 Thread GJTabor
Good, I'm glad to hear it. I have been off of TT for a while. I guess I got you confused with Marlin. You might have me confused too. Are you saying Saturday worship is required to order to go to heaven or Saturday worship is required in order to be in right standing before God? If you are, you

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-23 Thread GJTabor
se Scripture and quote it just like Satan did at the temptation of Christ." All I did was quote Acts 21:19-27 and Numbers 6:31-21. -- slade - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 22 March, 2003 22:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Pa

[TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-22 Thread Slade Henson
A little forground. The Apostle Paul entered Jerusalem and a group of BELIEVERS IN MESSIAH WHO ARE ZEALOUS FOR THE TORAH (LAW) were in Jerusalem at that time. When Paul gets there, the Jerusalem Council gets together to hear if Paul is really teaching against circumcision and the Law of

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-22 Thread GJTabor
My position is not that one can't worship on Saturday. One can worship EVERY or ANY day. What is a sin is to require others to Saturday worship (a la 7th Day Adventists) in order to go to heaven. What is a sin is to abuse Scripture and quote it just like Satan did at the temptation of Christ.

Re: [TruthTalk] The Apostle Paul's Testimony

2003-03-22 Thread Slade Henson
I ENCOURAGEYOU to tell me now I "abuse Scripture and quote it just like Satan did at the temptation of Christ." All I did was quote Acts 21:19-27 and Numbers 6:31-21. -- slade - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturda