Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-14 Thread Dean Moore
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" Some things are beyond understanding Dean; I 'm reallysorry to hear that you are no longer the moderator just when I was beginning to enjoy a different and more palatable list environment; please don't go anywher

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderator

2006-03-14 Thread David Miller
Dear TruthTalk members, I feel it prudent to clarify many misunderstandings. Please bear with me while I make a few posts regarding this subject of the TruthTalk moderator. If you are new on the list, please try to overlook our dirty laundry. Dean wrote: I am no longer Moderator of Truth

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderator

2006-03-14 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/14/2006 12:09:40 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderator Dear TruthTalk members, I feel it prudent to clarify many misunderstandings. Please bear with me while I make a few posts

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 9:20:45 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" Oh, yeah—sorry! I’ll repost under this heading: Thanks Brother Dean. J iz cd: Judy th

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Dean Moore
: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 10:26:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" You remember David Miller, Kevin. That would be the owner of this list. He's from Florida -- Beverly Hills, I believe. Well, on Mar

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Stirring the pot is trying to do the "moderator's" job when you are not the moderator JD On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:46:18 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I wrote that post, you did it again -- obviously to make a point, Kevin. You fly in the face of the rules and then pretend to

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 9:20:45 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" Oh, yeah—sorry! I’ll repost under this heading: Thanks Brother Dean. J iz cd: Judy this is also a rule that does not wo

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
OOphs!! Me too?Sorry brotherDean. I did just what you say below which is "hit send" without checking the subject line No evil intent, just not paying enough attention. On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:40:28 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Judy this is also a rule that does not work

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread knpraise
. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 10:26:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator You remember David Miller, Kevin. That would be the owner of this list. He's

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread knpraise
Your inconsistency is duly noted. Like I said -- who is stirring the pot, here -- the one who questions why or the one who violates the rule? Please note this: now that Dean has made it clear that he has not intentions of honoring David's wishes, the subject is a closed matter. I now have my

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Judy he probably will be the next moderator:-) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/13/2006 7:06:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" Stirring the pot is trying to do the "m

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Vote for JDDean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:cd: Judy he probably will be the next moderator:-) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/13/2006 7:06:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Some things are beyond understanding Dean; I 'm reallysorry to hear that you are no longer the moderator just when I was beginning to enjoy a different and more palatable list environment; please don't go anywhere. On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:36:31 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
DavidM couldn't possibly be THAT busy On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:37:46 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vote for JDDean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Judy he probably will be the next moderator:-) From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Dean Moore
@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/13/2006 10:58:39 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator" OOphs!! Me too?Sorry brotherDean. I did just what you say below which is "hit send" without checking the subject line No evil intent, just not paying enoug

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Is there subterfuge going on behind the scenes? Maybe JD has been working for the Job all along.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DavidM couldn't possibly be THAT busyOn Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:37:46 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Vote for JDDean Moore [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
:39 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator"OOphs!! Me too?Sorry brotherDean. I did just what you say below which is "hit send" without checking the subject line No evil intent, just not paying enough attention.On Mon, 13 Mar 2006

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread knpraise
Why is Linda's compliment to Dean posted under the "Moderators Comment +++" heading not once, but twice? Have the rules changed on this. I know the owner of the List, David Miller (Beverly Hills , Florida) complained about this very thing yesterday, I believe. With nearly ever post, Dean,

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you running for MODERATerr?Vote for JD![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Why is Linda's compliment to Dean posted under the "Moderators Comment +++" heading not once, but twice? Have the rules changed on this. I know the owner of the List, David Miller (Beverly Hills , Florida) complained

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, yeahsorry! Ill repost under this heading: Thanks Brother Dean. J iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread knpraise
You remember David Miller, Kevin. That would be the owner of this list. He's from Florida -- Beverly Hills, I believe. Well, on March the 9th, he wrote this: Dear TruthTalk list members: If you see a post that has Moderator Comment or something similar, please do not reply to that

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you running for MODERATerr again? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You remember David Miller, Kevin. That would be the owner of this list. He's from Florida -- Beverly Hills, I believe. Well, on March the 9th, he wrote this: Dear TruthTalk list members:If you see a post that has

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Still stirring the POT?Wicked me, I just hit reply, did not notice Thanks for pointing out this great character flaw. So ban me Why are you so INTERESTED in GNATS when you can swallow a camel? But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread knpraise
And just two posts prior to this one, you addressed a post under the subject line +Moderator Comment + I see that as a clear statement of rebellion. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you running for MODERATerr again? [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-12 Thread knpraise
Since I wrote that post, you did it again -- obviously to make a point, Kevin. You fly in the face of the rules and then pretend to pass moral judgment on others ??!! And who is stirring the pot? The one who points to the rule or the one who wilfully violates the rule? But we are just arguing ,

[TruthTalk] [truthTalk] Re revealed knowledge

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
I read an aritcle by NT Wright this morning in which he spoke of the "beginning" of understanding. And in conversation with Bill Taylor, recently, he commented on just how wonderful it was that our knowledge of science (specifically) put us in a better postioin, as theologians, some of what has

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Wilma

2005-10-23 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Latest Hurricane Wilma photo. David Miller hope you are making ready for Wilma? Next weekend I will be flying to Miami to link up with a new Bible Believer chapter out there, and then preach in the Keys at this event called fantasy fest which started this weekend

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion

2005-08-05 Thread knpraise
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. (1 John 5:9) He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself (1 John 5:10) If you have trusted Christ as your Savior, the Holy Spirit indwells

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion

2005-08-05 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be saved means you trust Christ and have Him as your Savior.AND YOUR LORD He's our lifeboat. He's our lifeline. He's our only hope. We are lost without H im, but if we have Him, we have life. Let's forget about religion. Let's forget about all this

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion

2005-08-05 Thread knpraise
Actually, I did not write this piece. And "Lord " was not left out -- it isclearly there, although not in print. Jd-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:14:12 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion

2005-08-05 Thread Debbie Sawczak
tertaining a hypothesis, if they are not also acknowledging him as Lord. Debbie - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: Re true religion

2005-08-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, you are so right on, Debbie. I believe that was Terrys whole point. izzy Those who claim tobelieve in Christ as their Saviour are not actually doing so, but merely entertaining a hypothesis, if they are not also acknowledging him as Lord. Debbie

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Let me know what you all are going to do for reading material. ... Be sure to include Title and author I'm reading right now: Gaustad, Edwin S. and Mark A. Noll. 2003. A documentary history of religion in America. Two volumes, third edition, William B. Eerdmans Publishing

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread knpraise
The ridiculousness of your doctrine apparently does not bother you.Oh well. Jd-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:36 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _ tripping out

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _ tripping out - The ridiculousness of your doctrine apparently does not bother you.Oh well. Jd-Original

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread Lance Muir
With what frequency brother, do you say 'Huh'? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 18, 2005 16:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _ tripping out - Huh? You asked for our

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread knpraise
orgSent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:02:34 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _ tripping out - Huh? You asked for our current reading material, and when I give it you say that the ridiculousness of my doctrine apparently does not bother me? Do you want to try and s

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Your doctrine is that a thoughtful, prayerful, Spirit led reading of the Bible will give you the full intent of God in each text of the Bible -- on the first read of same. I have never taught this. This is slanderous reporting. What I believe is that God's Spirit reveals his

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread knpraise
very good. Glad to see the change. JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:59:05 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _ tripping out - JD wrote: "Your doc

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Non sequiturs are the forte of JD and Lance, as clearly seen below. No sense trying to make sense of them. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:08 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk _____________ tripping out -------------------------

2005-07-14 Thread knpraise
4 am Friday morning, me and one of the locust people are going to San Diego to see mu middle boy and the woman he is currently sleeping with -- that's get down hood talk for "wife." Coming back on Saturday -- meeting with Robert Furgeson just before he moves to the Northeast. I David knows

[TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls

2005-06-27 Thread Charles Perry Locke
TT members, As an experiment I opened a private Yahoo group called TruthTalk_Polls. I thought it would be interesting to hold truthtalk polls occasionally. With so few posting, it may prove to be useless, but we can give it a try. A yahoo group also has chat and other capabilities. I have

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls

2005-06-27 Thread David Miller
Perry wrote: As an experiment I opened a private Yahoo group called TruthTalk_Polls. I searched for the group using TruthTalk_Polls and TruthTalk. I could not find it. Maybe making it private makes it not come up in searches? Maybe you need to provide a link or invitation for us to check

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls

2005-06-27 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Great feedback.Let me check it out. I was trying to avoid allowing public membership. From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:04:11 -0400 Perry wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls

2005-06-27 Thread Charles Perry Locke
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:07:29 -0700 Great feedback.Let me check it out. I was trying to avoid allowing public membership. From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] BEND accomplishes the means

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Interesting to see how those that have no moral Authorityenact the "BEND accomplishes the means" http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44226New billboard: 'PETA kills animals'Education effort points out nonprofit destroys 85% of pets in its shelter

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] BEND accomplishes the means

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Prov 12;10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting to see how those that have no moral Authorityenact the "BEND accomplishes the means"

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Caroline Wong
kind of fundamentalists! Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page? Caroline Wong wrote: This begs

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Kevin Deegan
om: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page? Caroline Wong wrote: This begs the question: just how many different kinds of fundamentalists are there, what is the average of all those types a

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/23/2005 6:17:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It used to be people who believed in the five fundamentals :-) Now I don't think people know what those were and who the original debaters were! Almost sounds like you are speaking of my old buddies in the

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your buddies were not Fundamentalists, they were restorationist's to the core. Now everybody wants to get in to the act.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/23/2005 6:17:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It used to be people who believed in the five fundamentals :-)

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/23/2005 7:37:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your buddies were not Fundamentalists, they were restorationist's to the core. Now everybody wants to get in to the act. Fundalmentalist to the core. I didn't say they were right. But they could beat up a

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Caroline Wong
yourself a fundamentalist? 2. Kevin, are Evangelicals disobedient and if so, how are they disobedient? Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: Okay, so youhave more to add toTerry's original definition of what is the best kind of fundamentalist. It seems that only (some) Baptists qualify as fundamentalists. Evangelicals are not fundamentalists. The next question would be 1. Terry, what is your

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-23 Thread Kevin Deegan
--- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page? I think we're all here the best kind of fundamentalists! I think NOT! These are more descriptive of a FEW on TT Some

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-22 Thread Knpraise
THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE UNASHAMED I am part of the "Fellowship of the Unashamed". The die has been cast. I have stepped over the line. The decision has been made, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I won't look back, let up, slow down, back away, or be still. My past is redeemed, my present makes

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-22 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE UNASHAMED I am part of the "Fellowship of the Unashamed". The die has been cast. I have stepped over the line. The decision has been made, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I won't look back, let up, slow down, back away, or be still. My

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Are we on the same page?

2005-04-22 Thread Debbie Sawczak
What I am appreciating about you, Terry, is that (unlike some) you recognize common ground when you see it. Debbie - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk

[TruthTalk] Truthtalk

2005-04-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't know who DA Carson is but I found the following at the Emergent Church website. I can agree with the description of the problem; the two sides on TT do have different worldviews and different gospels for that matter. Both focus on the cross. One side says He did it all and I'm on

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk

2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Mumbo Jumbo with a little seducing "look what I have" thrown in for good measure.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know who DA Carson is but I found the following at the Emergent Church website. I can agree with the description of the problem; the two sides on TT do have different

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk

2005-04-19 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/19/2005 4:39:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you probably don't want to know what I think about it. Who needs God when we can draw from our own wells? jt On, Judy -- you got me laughing again. You have such a noble opinion of yourself. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk

2005-04-19 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:44:15 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/19/2005 4:39:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:you probably don't want to know what I think about it. Who needs God when we can draw from our own wells? jt On, Judy -- you got me

Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk

2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
In addition to TYPOglycemia JD has comprehensionglycemia One that whines about reading the post, should take his own medicine.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:44:15 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/19/2005 4:39:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk: A testimony to the power and effect of Immersion

2005-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In Galatians 3:24-27 we have a statement from Paul that must not be ignored -- that is if someone is concerned for his or her spiritual growth. Paul tells us that the Law was our tutor, it's purpose (for existence) found in its preparatory administration toward the Incarnation of Christ (v.

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: A testimony to the power and effect of Immersion

2005-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2005 7:59:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Galatians 3:24-27 we have a statement from Paul that must not be ignored -- that is if someone is concerned for his or her spiritual growth. Paul tells us that the Law was our tutor, it's purpose (for

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: A testimony to the power and effect of Immersion

2005-04-18 Thread Debbie Sawczak
I have gone back toyour post a few times to think about and digest it, JD, and I am particularly appreciating the section below: Debbie I see an individual reality and a corporate resulting (a continuing action) described here in this Galatian passage. It is something that happens to

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: A testimony to the power and effect of Immersion

2005-04-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:11:39 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Galatians 3:24-27 we have a statement from Paul that must not be ignored -- that is if someone is concerned for his or her spiritual growth. Paul tells us that the Law was our tutor, it's purpose (for existence) found

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk: A testimony to the power and effect of Immersion

2005-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2005 5:36:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jd in orange. Judy, do you understand that the primary reason for the article was to discuss the importance and effectiveness of immersion into Christ. That is the really big deal, here. That is what I really

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-07 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: Jesus said, On this rock, I will build my Church (singular, one.) Yes, but what did he have in mind when he said that? It seems to me that he had the local church in mind. Taking this verse alone, it might be that he had one gigantic worldwide church in mind, but considering

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-07 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: Jesus said," On this rock, I will build my Church" (singular, one.) Yes, but what did he have in mind when he said that? === I think that when He said, "Church", He meant Church.

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-07 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: I think that when He said, "Church", He meant Church. If He had meant churches, He would have said churches. I agree. He meant church. The question is, did he have a specific church in mind, or did he have a huge worldwide organization in mind like Roman Catholicism or the

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-07 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: I think that when He said, "Church", He meant Church. If He had meant churches, He would have said churches. I agree. He meant church. The question is, did he have a specific church in mind, or did he have a huge worldwide

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Amen and Amen, Well said - Nothing like plainness of speech to communicate the oracles of God. judyt On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:15:54 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try to grt over the idea that the Church is a small or large organization. It is neither It is a living organism,

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-06 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: ... from my perspective, there can only be one Cornerstone because there is only one Christ This sounds like you don't believe that Christ is omnipresent. It indeed is fantastic to consider that in Rev. 2 3, when Jesus stands in the midst of the seven candlesticks, that each

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-06 Thread Terry Clifton
Prophets may not have been in every synagogue, but it appears to me from my study of Scripture that they were in every church. Certainly the churches in Jerusalem, Antioch, Corinth, and Caesarea had them. Why would other churches be any different? Maybe you

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-06 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: I have never felt the need for a prophet other than Christ, so I am not too interested in them or the way they function. With the Bible and the Holy Spirit, I find that I have all the guidance I need. Aw, come on, Terry. :-) Get your eyes off of yourself. You know better

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-06 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: I have never felt the need for a prophet other than Christ, so I am not too interested in them or the way they function. With the Bible and the Holy Spirit, I find that I have all the guidance I need. Aw, come on, Terry. :-) Get your

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-06 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: ... from my perspective, there can only be one Cornerstone because there is only one Christ This sounds like you don't believe that Christ is omnipresent. It indeed is fantastic to consider that in Rev. 2 3, when Jesus stands in the

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
--- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment Debbie Sawczak wrote: Here is how this "Protestant" thinks

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
to see, we could identify them by the Presence of the Holy Spirit inside them. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:24 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Lance Muir
.. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 05, 2005 02:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment Debbie Sawczak wrote: Hi Dave, welcome back. DAVEH: Thanx Debbie. Sin City is a tough place to spend

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
J DAVEH: Thanx Debbie. Sin City is a tough place to spend a few days. May I suggest that a lessor man (such as John, perhaps) may have succumbed while I was able to withstand the brutal forces trying to suck money out of my pocket ;-)

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: That seems somewhat contradictory to what Paul described in Eph 2:19-20, where the fellowcitizens with the saints and the household of God (is that not referring to the greater congregation of the Church as a whole?) were given a foundation of apostles and

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
ShieldsFamily wrote: This non-Jew, non-Catholic, non-Cult, Christ-Follower sees it this way: The true Church never was and never will be an Institution or Organization. DAVEH: Do you have any Biblical evidence to offer, Izzy? 1 Timothy 3:15 but in case I am delayed, I write so that

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
Terry Clifton wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: That seems somewhat contradictory to what Paul described in Eph 2:19-20, where the fellowcitizens with the saints and the household of God (is that not referring to the greater congregation of the Church as a whole?)

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave Hansen wrote: Terry Clifton wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: That seems somewhat contradictory to what Paul described in Eph 2:19-20, where the fellowcitizens with the saints and the household of God (is that not referring to the greater

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: ... the Church for the last two thousand or so years has been built on the originals. One foundation for one building is the usual ratio. I think the Roman Catholic Church is responsible for perpetuating the idea of ONE CHURCH existing through the last two millenia. When I read

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-05 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: ... the Church for the last two thousand or so years has been built on the originals. One foundation for one building is the usual ratio. I think the Roman Catholic Church is responsible for perpetuating the idea of ONE CHURCH existing

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-04 Thread Dave Hansen
Debbie Sawczak wrote: Here is how this "Protestant" thinks: Jesus didn't "found a church" at all. That has jarredfor me since childhood as athorough misunderstanding. It makes me think of a voluntary association of people who subscribe to a new set of religious ideas and

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-04-04 Thread Debbie Sawczak
ean to sidetrack you--continue your conversation with John! Debbie - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment Debbie Sawczak wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-03-30 Thread Debbie Sawczak
Here is how this "Protestant" thinks: Jesus didn't "found a church" at all. That has jarredfor me since childhood as athorough misunderstanding. It makes me think of a voluntary association of people who subscribe to a new set of religious ideas and practicesthought upby (or revealed to)

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-03-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:24 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment Here is how this Protestant thinks: Jesus didn't found a church at all. That has jarredfor me since childhood

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-03-30 Thread Terry Clifton
Debbie Sawczak wrote: Here is how this "Protestant" thinks: Jesus didn't "found a church" at all. That has jarredfor me since childhood as athorough misunderstanding. It makes me think of a voluntary association of people who subscribe to a new set of religious ideas and

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-03-30 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/29/2005 10:00:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Is this a commonly accepted theory of Protestantism? LDS folks believe such thinking is flawed, John. IOW.I believe Jesus founded the RIGHT CHURCH and a measured amount of legalism is important

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Is this a commonly accepted theory of Protestantism? LDS folks believe such thinking is flawed, John. IOW.I believe Jesus founded the RIGHT CHURCH and a measured amount of legalism is important and necessary within that True Church. What our Mormon friends do not understand and

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation

2005-01-19 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: I disagree with your assessment that Gary's comment was similar to mine. For one thing I don't ever enquire of Gary; but Lance was pondering this question and I did not reply in jest (sorry that it sounded that way). Ok, you make a good point here. Your response was solicited by

[TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation

2005-01-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I find your response offensive Lance butamnot surprised -some ppl excel in the art of the putdown but this is not a Christlike trait. I am disappointed as I expected more from DavidM [Looks like I have been wrong about some things, possiblyothers as well]. Asfor glorying in education,

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation

2005-01-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
David Miller wrote: but if they are indeed so sensitive that they object, then we can be big enough to work harder at making our posts less personal in nature. The goal is to make sure we do not cause another member to begin responding emotionally out of self defense. I see a

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation

2005-01-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Why not ask G what grade level one has to attain to make you intelligible to others? Izzy The KJV Bible is written two grades higher than Gary gives me credit for. It is on a 10th Grade level but this should not make one whit of adifference to the spiritually minded since

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation

2005-01-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation Based on the foregoing I may have to retract my comment on David's ability with children. At least two gold stars go on the fridge for this one.

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