Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
For someone whose expertise is withwords Lance, your friend sure plays fast and loose with them. Nowhere doesscripturesay "Christ became sin or a sinner" - Remember? He was "begotten not made, of one substance with the Father" - so even Orthodoxy disputes her thesis. It was on the cross

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance's friend writes: It's QA, and the point I was noticing was that sinhas no existence apart from sinners What about the angels who sinned and are held in chains of darkness - are they persons also? And BTW what is personhood anyway? Last time I looked angels were ministering

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread David Miller
Very interesting dialogue, Lance. I appreciate you sharing it with us. There is much more that can be developed here. The concept of love the sinner but hate the sin is problematic in certain contexts, but it is not entirely a logical contradiction. The reason is that the concept of sinner

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Because I believe that homosexuality is preventable and curable. DAVEH:   Did you/anybody happen to watch 60 MINUTES a few days ago?   It had a very interesting segment on homosexuality.   And as I understood the story, they seemed to be neutral in their examination.which was

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread knpraise
Great post. I would include David's response but I am still working on his comments. Perhaps only the definition of sin exists in the abstract. We I speak of "hating the sin" I only mean that I am displeased with the effects sin is having on his person. I think it a perversion to hate the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
NO Jd Some of us believe the scriptural account which teaches us that as a person He was "begotten" not made The word JD is "monogenes" and it means one of a kind and different from the rest of us who were conceived in in sin and iniquity. YES Jd He did die unjustly and if you believe the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
BE WARNED!!! On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:21:33 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps only the definition of sin exists in the abstract. We I speak of "hating the sin" I only mean that I am displeased with the effects sin is having on his person. I think it a perversion to hate the

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Doesnt that prove that 60 Minutes doesnt know a __ thing? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:11 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux Because I

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread knpraise
An example of a carnal reply. Does anyone doubt the sincerity of Linda's faith -- yet we have something that could not sound more worldly. I think this has to do with I Cor 3:1ff. jd Doesn’t that prove that 60 Minutes doesn’t know a __ thing? iz

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux An example of a carnal reply. Does anyone doubt the sincerity of Linda's faith -- yet we have something that could not sound more worldly. I think this has to do with I Cor 3:1ff. jd Doesnt that prove that 60

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread knpraise
ECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:26 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux An example of a carnal reply. Does anyone doubt the sincerity of Linda's faith -- yet we have something that could not sound more worldly. I thin

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks for your example of as you say "a carnal reply"Now that I see your response I am a BELIEVER!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An example of a carnal reply. Does anyone doubt the sincerity of Linda's faith -- yet we have something that could not sound more worldly. I think this has