[TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Judyt: Phew!! Kay and Slade I truly admire your committment and zeal. How much cooking is involved with these feasts? Are the kids old enough to pretty much do for themselves? So far as I'm concerned Slade and Jeff are excused :) What do you all do for eight days while on these feasts?

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
Observation and a question: 1. It was the "weak" brother who continued to observe holy days in the First Church (Romans 14), or at least made an issue of it. 2. Were the rules for Sabboth observance declared by God or were they established in the traditions of the Jewish community? JD

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
Izzy, I began reading Singh's "Visions." I must admit that I am not one who usually spends time in such studies, perferring word studies and exegetical analysis. But I will do my best to give Singh a fair reading. Thanks for the material. John

[TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Hughes Jonathan
Ok here is another futile attempt at getting people to take a look at the character of George Bush. This is for all members of TT but I would especially like to see replies from the 'moralists' on this list - Judy, Izzy and Terry. BUSH MISLEADS ON TAX CUTS At Thursday's debate President

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Terry Clifton
Hughes Jonathan wrote: Ok here is another futile attempt at getting people to take a look at the character of George Bush. This is for all members of TT but I would especially like to see replies from the 'moralists' on this list - Judy, Izzy and Terry. BUSH MISLEADS ON TAX

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you for the compliment, Judy. We camp out in tents. Some people get hotel rooms. We had a room for an older couple who attended this year. We fellowship...around campfires, in the lodge. We played volleyball games, the guys played football, we went on hikes, we made a slip-n-slide

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread David Miller
Jonathan wrote: At Thursday's debate President Bush said most of his tax cuts went to low- and middle-income Americans.[1] That statement is flatly false. An analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that, in 2004, the top 20 percent of earners received 69.8% of the tax cuts

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:22:16 -0400 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ones who got [bushwhacked] were the ones in my tax bracket. We got no cut at all.

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately you are wrong. Even bipartisan sites agree that Bush was ummerr lying. Read Terry's post and see how much he got from the tax cut wherethe majority "went to low and middle income

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:07:18 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately you are wrong. Even bipartisan sites agree that Bush was ummerr lying. Read Terry's post and see how much he

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Prove it Laura. Show me these numerous articles. Davids did not prove me wrong. Bush lied. There is no way out of it the majority of the tax cut did not go to low and middle income Americans. In actual fact their tax burden was more than it was in 2000. Go to www.factcheck.org and see

[TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread LaurHamm
Click here: The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

[TruthTalk] Check out Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading

2004-10-18 Thread LaurHamm
Click here: Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading The site you referred to even says Kerry's ad is misleading. I say that nearly everything the man says is misleading. Laura

RE: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Oh myif his actual plan is your proof From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief Click here: The

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh myif his actual plan is your proof From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:50 PMTo:

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
Read this: "The ones who got burned[by The President's Agenda for Tax Relief] were the ones in my tax bracket. We got no cut at all." -T. Clifton, TruthTalk, 10/19/04 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:50:11 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Click here: ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:53:04 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Read this: "The ones who got burned[by The President's Agenda for Tax Relief] were the ones in my tax bracket. We got no cut at all." -T. Clifton, TruthTalk, 10/1[8]/04 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:50:11 EDT

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
you're agreeing with DavidM and calling Terry a liar? On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:55:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh myif his actual plan is your proof || ..info on what his

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 2:42:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while what you shared with us is deceptive statistics meant to obfuscate the truth. I ' d be willing to bet this was not Jonathan's intent at all. Jphn

[TruthTalk] digest mode?

2004-10-18 Thread Ben Smith
Hi all. I just signed up for the list. Is there any way I can get the messages sent to me in digest format instead of one at a time? Thanks in advance! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:35:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Read Terry's post and see how much he got from the tax cut where the majority "went to low and middle income Americans." ..There are numerous [biased] articles.. In all fairness -- the "tax cut" is a

RE: [TruthTalk] digest mode?

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Welcome Ben, Unfortunately there is no digest mode. Just 10-60 messages a day depending on how mad people are at me :) Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Smith Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Awww cmon John!!! How often does one get the chance to obfuscate, let alone use the word in a sentence? Jonathan obfuscater Hughes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you, Terry. So the ceasing from work on that day made it holy or was it the remembrance? I appreciate your evolution comment. Very nice. -- slade ==='Evening Slade. The NKJV says," Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy".

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
myth: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:33:49 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the "tax cut" is a return of federal monies paid against wages earned. Terry paid not such taxes.

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
yes: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:50:53 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So are you suggesting no ceasing is or never has been done [for NT rest] on this day because it speaks of a future day? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Check out Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Of course it is. The other side of it is that this is also just as true of Bush as it is of Kerry if not more so (only because he is the incumbent and has 4 years of rapid lies in succession to speak for). The problem is that George W Bush is a Christian. There are at least three people

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
Yes, Judy. You are correct in that I drop a subject after a time. I cannot afford to spend hours of my time trying to get a point across with you or anyone else. Had I more time, I would spend it more on the Internet. I havepeople to deal with here face to face and that time is far more

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:04:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're agreeing with DavidM and calling Terry a liar? not really I am just saying that we don't always get a clear picture when we listen or read someone elses info Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:49:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Awww cmon John!!! How often does one get the chance to obfuscate, let alone use the word in a sentence? Jonathan obfuscater Hughes Sorry - didn't think of that. Kind of sounds like something you

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:51:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth: On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:33:49 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the "tax cut" is a return of federal monies paid against wages earned. Terry paid no such taxes. Splain please. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:03:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course it is. The other side of it is that this is also just as true of Bush as it is of Kerry if not more so (only because he is the incumbent and has 4 years of rapid lies in succession to speak for).

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading

2004-10-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:02:21 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course it is. The other side of it is that this is also just as true of Bush as it is of Kerry if not more so (only because he is the incumbent and has 4 years of rapid lies in succession to speak

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:10:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, Judy. You are correct in that I drop a subject after a time. I cannot afford to spend hours of my time trying to get a point across with you or anyone else. Had I more time, I would spend it more on

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you for dialogue.Observation and a question:1. It was the "weak" brother who continued to observe holy days in the First Church (Romans 14), or at least made an issue of it. An interpretation of Romans 14.5 -- One person considers some days more holy than others, whilesomeone

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
I do need to apologize.It won't ever happen again. Please let me know exactly what name you prefer I use. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Monday, 18 October, 2004 21.11To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:12:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Make fun??? It was a compliment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 18 October, 2004 08.52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
E.g., a careful reader may notice right away thatsomeone put quotes on (the phrase) tax cut Also, e.g., re-read return, below--what's a US tax return? :) On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:11:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:51:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Thank you for asking Slade, we may have misunderstood or be at different places at times but but I don't ever remember you being rude and I do appreciate your sincerity and zeal in pursuit of truth for your own life and for your family. It seems you have a happy wife and that is an

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Jeff Powers
So tell me John, What is the purpose of prolonging a topic if everyone choses to avoid or change the topic I began? For instance, When I asked the simple question,"What is sin?" everyone tried to make it something else. Bottom line is I was trying to get you to DEFINE sin BIBLICALLY. Nobody

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
Please accept my apology. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Monday, 18 October, 2004 21.36To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment Thank you for

RE: [TruthTalk] Check out Kerry's Tax Ad: Literally Accurate, But Misleading

2004-10-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Slander: Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation. Hmmm no slander in my post at all. Perhaps if I made false statements which I did not. Heresy: An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs, especially dissension from or

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:23:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for dialogue. Observation and a question: 1. It was the "weak" brother who continued to observe holy days in the First Church (Romans 14), or at least made an issue of it. An interpretation of

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do need to apologize.It won't ever happen again. Please let me know exactly what name you prefer I use. Try reading the post. It seems clear to me. Just read and reread -- the point of the post will

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do need to apologize.It won't ever happen again. Please let me know exactly what name you prefer I use. Try reading the post. It seems clear to me. Just read and reread -- the point of the post will

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:36:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: E.g., a careful reader may notice right away that someone put quotes on (the phrase) tax cut Also, e.g., re-read return, below--what's a US tax return? :) See how easy it is to forget that it is our

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:35:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Read Terry's post and see how much he got from the tax cut where the majority "went to low and middle income Americans." ..There are

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:41:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me John, What is the purpose of prolonging a topic if everyone choses to avoid or change the topic I began? For instance, When I asked the simple question,"What is sin?" everyone tried to make it

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wrong JD, we did pay taxes. Federal?

RE: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Slade Henson
slade -- This is another reason I find these emails frustrating. I now have to answer a slew of objections and to answer them makes the email confusing at best (i.e., who said what when...?) John-- You will never understand the Torah until you come to terms with the letter to the

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: Thank you, Terry. So the ceasing from work on that day made it holy or was it the remembrance? I appreciate your evolution comment. Very nice. -- slade <>=== I am not certain. If we take the word "Holy"

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Jeff Powers
READ YOUR POST JOHN. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 13:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment In a message dated 10/17/2004 9:40:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Check out The President's Agenda for Tax Relief

2004-10-18 Thread ttxpress
bythis criterion, Laura, Terry's tax post/sare weighty--in contrast withWs 'tax agenda', theyring true On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:08:55 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..we don't always get a clear picture when we..read someone elses info Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on Tax Cuts

2004-10-18 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wrong JD, we did pay taxes. Federal? Yep. Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy to figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made

Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment

2004-10-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:44:36 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for the compliment, Judy. We camp out in tents. Some people get hotel rooms. We had a room for an older couple who attended this year. We fellowship...around campfires, in the lodge. We played

RE: [TruthTalk] digest mode?

2004-10-18 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Ben, welcome to TruthTalk. I will add you to the digest list. Please let me know if you do not get the digests. Perry TT Moderator From: Ben Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] digest mode? Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Hi