responsible for putting forth the budget..
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:56:51 -0400 "David Miller"
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e.g.? :)
(see .jpg, attachd [--upward on the left edge
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:56:51 -0400 "David Miller"
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writes:Numbers don't lie.
e.g.? :)
(see .jpg, attachd [--upward on the left edge
ofDelong's graphdepicts a surplus condition--g])
Republican Overoptimism About Deficits:
In
time will
tell
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:56:51 -0400 "David Miller"
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writes:Numbers don't lie
David Miller wrote:
The Congress under Bill Clinton did a much better
job reducing deficit spending.
Gary wrote:
perhaps i agree--what makes you sure of this?
Just look at the links I provided, which reveal Clinton's budget and how
deficit spending was eliminated under that budget.
David Miller
Gary wrote:
it doesn't matter how 'tax cuts', below, affect/ed ||tax||(ation)--
you traffic in myth like the spin doctors do;
How are you using the word myth? There are various meanings to the word
myth. Are you trying to say that I have said something that is fictitious?
If so, please explain
I hope my last post did not lead anyone to think that President Bush doesn't
care about the federal deficit. Bush's plan is to reduce the deficit in
half over the next five years by reducing spending and spuring economic
growth through tax relief.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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10/21, DavidM ():
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g)DavidM :
How are you using the word "myth"? There are various
meanings to the word myth...
* proves the
point--you know more myth about myth than one couldv realized
:)
Are you trying to say that I have said something that is
fictitious? ..explain
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Another post!!! Wow. I hope this means that you are back. We
Of course you are.
Jonathan
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Jonathan, What other federal taxes ARE there except
Cuts
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Another post!!! Wow. I hope this means that you are back. We need you
Mazel Tov, Izzy
Kay
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BTW, We are celebrating last night's birth of my first grandson
Congrats Izzy. Children are precious.
Jonathan Hughes
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BTW, We are celebrating
Izzy wrote:
What other federal taxes ARE there except for
income taxes in the US? What am I missing here?
Social Security tax and Medicare taxes are two other federal taxes. These
together are also called payroll taxes or self-employment taxes. Bush gave
some statistics concerning how his
it doesn't matter
how 'tax cuts', below, affect/ed ||tax||(ation)--you traffic in myth like the
spin doctors do; the issue is thatWs 'cuts in war time'are generatg
a massive Fed deficit
you wanna go to war
in the mid-East, pay for it; don'tdiscreetly but sadistically dump the
cost on
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
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it doesn't matter
how 'tax cuts', below, affect/ed ||tax||(ation)--you traffic in myth like the
spin doctors do; the issue i
even multinational
corporations are treatedexclusively as 'individuals' under Am. law;
thatthe RNC favors such 'individuals' tax-wise is no
secret
therefore the gist
of this post is essentially myth:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:35:39 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
A
Great post Gary. Thank you.
From:
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it doesn't
matter how 'tax cuts', below, affect/ed ||tax
In a message dated 10/20/2004 5:10:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW, We are celebrating last night's birth of my first grandson, Ben David
Zumbehl. His big sisters (ages 6, 4, 2) are excited that he is coming home
tomorrow. We thank the Lord for the health of him and
Jonathan wrote:
David, I am astonished that you have taken the time
to come out of hiding and post.
I don't think of myself as having been in hiding, but rather I just haven't
had time to keep up with all the posts. There is a difference you know.
Jonathan wrote:
Even bipartisan sites agree
Terry wrote:
Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy
to figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made
seven thousand in the shop last year. Other than that, social security
was our only other source of income, and that is about fourteen hundred
a month total
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:42 AM
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Jonathan wrote:
David, I am astonished that you have taken the time to come out of
hiding and post.
I don't think of myself as having been
Jonathan wrote:
www.factcheck.org is not applying liberal spin David.
IT is misleading of you to say so. It hits Kerry just as
hard as it hits Bush. It is a bipartisan site that even Dick
Cheney suggests that people use.
From my perspective, FactCheck.org leans left a bit in its political
myth:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:52:03 -0400 "David Miller"
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writes:If you're married, you got tax relief. If you pay any tax at all,
you got tax relief.
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy
to figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made
seven thousand in the shop last year. Other than that, social security
was our only other source of income, and that is about fourteen
Hughes Jonathan wrote:
Ok here is another futile
attempt at getting people to take a look at the character of George
Bush. This is for all members of TT but I would especially like to see
replies from the 'moralists' on this list - Judy, Izzy and Terry.
BUSH MISLEADS ON TAX
Jonathan wrote:
At Thursday's debate President Bush said most of his tax cuts
went to low- and middle-income Americans.[1]
That statement is flatly false.
An analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that, in
2004,
the top 20 percent of earners received 69.8% of the tax cuts
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:22:16 -0400 Terry Clifton
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writes:
The ones who got [bushwhacked] were the ones in my tax
bracket. We got no cut at all.
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately you are wrong. Even bipartisan sites agree that
Bush was ummerr lying. Read Terry's post and see how much he got
from the tax cut wherethe majority "went to low and middle income
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:07:18 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unfortunately you
are wrong. Even bipartisan sites agree that Bush was ummerr
lying. Read Terry's post and see how much he
quite clear that I
am not a Kerry lover.
Jonathan
From:
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004
7:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush on
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In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:40:22 PM
In a message dated 10/18/2004 2:42:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
while what you shared with us is deceptive statistics meant to
obfuscate the truth.
I ' d be willing to bet this was not Jonathan's intent at all.
Jphn
In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:35:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Read Terry's post and see how much he got from the tax cut where
the majority "went to low and middle income Americans."
..There are numerous [biased] articles..
In all fairness -- the "tax cut" is a
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In a message dated 10/18/2004 2:42:36 PM Pacific Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
while what you shared with us is
deceptive statistics meant to
obfuscate the truth.
I ' d be willing to bet this was not Jonathan's intent at all.
Jphn
myth:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:33:49 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
..the
"tax cut" is a return of federal monies paid against wages earned. Terry paid
not such taxes.
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:49:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Awww cmon John!!! How often does one get the chance to obfuscate, let alone use the word in a sentence?
Jonathan obfuscater Hughes
Sorry - didn't think of that. Kind of sounds like something you
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:51:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:33:49 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..the "tax cut" is a return of federal monies paid against wages earned. Terry paid no such taxes.
Splain please.
J
E.g., a careful reader may notice right away
thatsomeone put quotes on (the phrase) tax cut
Also, e.g., re-read return,
below--what's a US tax return? :)
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:11:59 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:51:49 PM
Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
In a message dated 10/18/2004 6:36:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
E.g., a careful reader may notice right away that someone put quotes on (the phrase) tax cut
Also, e.g., re-read return, below--what's a US tax return? :)
See how easy it is to forget that it is our
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:35:18
PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Read Terry's post and
see how much he got from the tax cut where
the majority "went to low and middle income Americans."
..There are
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wrong JD, we did pay taxes.
Federal?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:03:30
PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wrong
JD, we did pay taxes.
Federal?
Yep. Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy to
figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made
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