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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:09 -0500 "Carrolll Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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even talk like yer
wearin' an FG t-shirt ,Dean, and look what
transpires..
Dean
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Should I add "Fear God" to the scrolling marquee:-)
I have an Idea-For those that have Bible se
Judy wrote:
Yes I hear what you are saying but we should see
the Spirit of Christ in action.
Of course, including the Spirit of Christ going into the Temple and
chasing out those who were defiling it. We should see this same zeal in
action.
Judy wrote:
Judy wrote:
What about the side
How do you two resolve this issue(?)
:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:53:48 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Man's freedom of choice (contingency) is God
given
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:51:54 -0500
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]God's ordained plan of
Gary wrote:
How do you two resolve this issue(?)
Gary, I did not have time to read the article carefully that you shared,
and most of the interaction about it has been confusing. It sounded
like maybe you believe that we should be pushing Homosexual Marriage as
a good and proper thing to do?
DavidMs position seems quitesimilar to
Cal Thomas'--he has written on this issue recently, too.
FTR, Speaking of confusion on the matter
(resulting from the retention of certain biases?), in an 'exegetical' sense, it
appears that DavidM and CT bothadd the adjective 'homosexual', as in the
Judy wrote:
My question to you (and hopefully this will resolve the
question) is Does God give man freedom to make his own
choices?
Yes.
Judy wrote:
IOW if two homosexuals do choose to marry, would God
try to stop them? Strike them dead or whatever?
No. But he might strike them
David Miller wrote:
Judy wrote:
Do they have the freedom to make this choice and is this
freedom basically God-given. Does God allow people to fail?
Yes, of course. Who would argue otherwise? God allows people to choose
to sin.
DAVEH: Why do Protestants believe God allows men to
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g, the NYTimes and PBS doesnt have the slightest CLUE what a conservative is. They probably think Howard Dean is conservative
Rofl!!! Iz
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g, the NYTimes and PBS doesnt
have the
let me rephrase this,j
lol
VVV
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:14:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so, what is his [new,
subjective,'jandg..'] point [augmented by your redaction of the
Ruth/Naomi story]?
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:06:16 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
':) l, g
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:23:42 -0500 "Carrolll Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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even talk like yer wearin' an FG t-shirt ,Dean, and look what transpires lol; doesn't this sort of (moderator originated!!)ad hominem go with the wardrobe? rof
Dean writes:
Works the same way out on the street bro-Trust me- Get one-one must wear it to believe it opens even your eyes and
like Daniel, et. al.! ,
warmin' upfor warin Babylon's furnace
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:46:09 -0500 "Carrolll Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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even talk like yer
wearin' an FG t-shirt ,Dean, and look what transpires lol;
doesn't this sort of (moderator
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:15:33
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Gary,
..Have you read
the Ruth/Naomi story?
(humbly:) if youwanna
pursuethe R/N story intelligently (andstart examing where Brooks is
comin' from), my sem OT mentor, Robt. Hubbard, who knows me well, and that I'm
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:03:13 -0500
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jt: Within where? Gary...My
belief is that the scriptures are spiritually discerned rather than
intellectual
within both realms, J; i.e., it's
biblically a 'both/and' situation; e.g.,is your 'belief'
Judy wrote:
From what I see around me I think that teaching is
necessary but not to the exclusion of the other.
Very true, but I hope you also realize that the other is limited by
the hearts of the hearers. Take Gary's position toward me, for example.
He views me as a false prophet and as a
Dave Miller: The Pagan Wolf is drawing you into his circle. This is the
standard tactic of the enemy. He first gets you to side with him against
those who proclaim Christ on the streets. He causes you to believe that
public preaching is for the most part a flesh ministry. He causes you to
g
version:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:26:14 + "Arsene
Lupin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [DavidM],certain remarks [indirected]towards my person [are] unbecoming
of you..You really need to
look[to the Lord] and
see your own ego at work,
or as[Scriptures] call it "The old man, the flesh". I
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:25:02 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They (homosexuals) are already under a curse, we
don't need to condemn them any further.
fyi~g:
The Power of
MarriageNovember 22, 2003By DAVID
BROOKSAnybody who has several sexual partners in a
year iscommitting spiritual
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:54:43 -0500
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Interesting Gary - but the problem is not the "culture of
contingency" the problem is that God..is the one who defines healthy marriages
and healthy relationships.
Did you catch this comment,
Judy:
"We're
sounds like you're not being conservative--Izzy gonna get
you:)
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:33:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Interesting Gary - but the problem is not the "culture of
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:46:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sounds like you're not being conservative--Izzy gonna get
you:)
also--you're choosing to ignore
Brooks' point, simply proving he's correct by re-applying the cultural
argument from contingency which (in Brooks'
Judy:
Ruth's choice was not a chancy
thing
well, what was it, then,if not a
covenent(?)--what are you tryin' to do with this issue?
gary
ottoson :: http://poet235.com
G:
Just so I do not misunderstand. Are you in agreement
with Mr. Brooks, or do you disagree?
Terry
The conservative course is not to
banish gay people frommaking such commitments. It is to expect that they
makesuch commitments. We shouldn't just allow gay marriage. Weshould
insist
?? (you gotta be kidding)
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Ruth did not marry Naomi -
therefore she did
not 'covenant' with her
so, what is his
point?
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:06:16 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brooks distorts scripture to try and use it tomake his point
..
so yes, that did get lost.
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true--the sense of the scripture in
Brooks' article
On Sat, 22 Nov
Do you realizewho David Brooks is?
Ask your husband (the one you choosenot to covenant with:) Actually, if
you (two)prove the 'distortion' [sic], below, you
couldsullyBrooks' substantial conservative, editiorial
credibilityat the _New York Times_(and
PBS)whichliberals like Paul Krugman and
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>..there
is behavior that condemns us.What
is it?DAVEH:
Probably that
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Do you realizewho David Brooks is?
Ask your husband (the one you
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..there is behavior that condemns
us.
What is
it?
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:43:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:24:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]..there is behavior that condemns
us.
What is it?
gary
ottoson :: http://poet235.com
DavidM:
HE THAT
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:43:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
'not condemned'
by JCis the hallmark of Abe's 'offspring'
James, below,is
condemning (through the HS) Abe's literal 'descendents'; they, based on James' personal
observations, too, aren'tcapable'offspring' of Abe via
'promise'
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'not condemned' by JCis the
hallmark of Abe's 'offspring'
James, below,is condemning (through
the HS) Abe's literal 'descendents'; they, based on James' personal
observations, too, aren'tcapable'offspring' of Abe via 'promise'
On Fri
Judy wrote:
If those in street ministry are unable to perform the
Ministry of Jesus then they are out there on their own;
we need to wait as He did, until we receive power from
on high to meet the needs of the people.
Hi Judy. There is certainly a truth about waiting on the Lord and
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:24:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]..there is behavior that condemns
us.
What is it?
gary
ottoson :: http://poet235.com
Judy wrote:
Look at how some of these ppl act in the name
of Christ, shooting doctors, bombing Abortion
Clinics, climbing flag poles, and they say God
told them to do it? I ask you to show me one
place, just one in the book of Acts and all
of the Epistles where any valid ministry acted
Gary wrote:
What is it?
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS
CONDEMNED already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come
into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
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2003 18:24:43 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>..there is behavior that condemns
us.What
is it?DAVEH: Probably that
which you oft times exhibit on TT, g. VBG>
gary
ottoson :: http://poet235.com
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Terry,
Where do you find in scripture that Lot preached in Sodom?
He chose it because it was a well watered plain and it was probably going
downhill
then. I know scripture teaches that Noah preached to his generation -
but Lot?
Judy
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Terry,
Where do you find in scripture that Lot preached in Sodom?
He chose it because it was a well watered plain and it was probably going
downhill
then. I know
Judy:
I did not find that in scripture. Didn't even look tosee if it was there. Just responded to a blurb from Dean.
Terry
Where do you find in scripture that Lot preached in Sodom?
He chose it because it was a well watered plain and it was probably going downhill
then. I know scripture
occasions, and they resented it.
Terry
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Judy:
I did not find that in scripture. Didn't even look tosee
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