[tslug] Re: Mailman config problem, the sequel

2004-03-14 Thread Tatro, Chad
Title: [tslug] Re: Mailman config problem, the sequel






 
Chad (Mohler):
 
I can not speak as to the justification for keeping or removing the 
current configuration that we use at ITS as this is not my area; however, I can 
tell you that we gladly will add aliases to the central mail hub so that mail 
for "alias"@truman.edu is delivered to 
"alias"@"yourmachine".truman.edu
 
Just simply contact the Help Desk (by phone, email, or walk-in) and 
Gwen can add your entry(ies) to the central alias file.
 
Or, if you prefer, just simply send me (or Gwen) an email with all 
the aliases you need, and we will glady configure this for you.
 
Chad (Tatro)
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of Jon BeckSent: Sat 3/13/2004 12:36 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [tslug] Re: Mailman config problem, the 
sequel

> Mailman seems to work a-OK now, except for one odd problem: 
any> listserv-related message that the moodle server sends gets the 
"To:"> return address wrong if the recipient has a truman.edu address- 
the> return address incorrectly ends in "truman.edu," rather than 
in> "moodle.truman.edu."This, alas, is not a problem of your 
configuration or one that you canfix.  The problem is that every 
message that goes through Truman'scentral mail servers gets its headers 
re-written if they end in.truman.edu.  Anyone with a .truman.edu 
address that gets this messagefrom tslug will notict that the Reply-to: 
header is set to[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the correct 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Way back in the old days, when we first connected 
internet-capablepersonal computers to the fledgling smtp server on campus, 
this policymade sense.  The reason was that those early PCs would send 
out mailfrom a fully qualified hostname, e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED], but 
hadno incoming smtp server that could get a reply.  Rewriting the 
headersto point to a central incoming server that had an alias lookup 
featuremade it possible for replies to go to an address where they could 
bereceived.The policy still stands, despite the argument that 
nowadays manypeople have boxes capable of running incoming smtp servers and 
validreasons for doing so.  Your moodle server is a perfect 
example.--Jon Beck, 
PhD 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Assoc 
Professor, Computer 
Science  
2162 Violette HallTruman State 
University  
660.785.7233Kirksville, MO  
63501 
http://vh216202.truman.edu/-To 
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[tslug] Re: Mailman config problem, the sequel

2004-03-13 Thread Jon Beck
> Mailman seems to work a-OK now, except for one odd problem: any
> listserv-related message that the moodle server sends gets the "To:"
> return address wrong if the recipient has a truman.edu address- the
> return address incorrectly ends in "truman.edu," rather than in
> "moodle.truman.edu."

This, alas, is not a problem of your configuration or one that you can
fix.  The problem is that every message that goes through Truman's
central mail servers gets its headers re-written if they end in
.truman.edu.  Anyone with a .truman.edu address that gets this message
from tslug will notict that the Reply-to: header is set to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the correct [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Way back in the old days, when we first connected internet-capable
personal computers to the fledgling smtp server on campus, this policy
made sense.  The reason was that those early PCs would send out mail
from a fully qualified hostname, e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED], but had
no incoming smtp server that could get a reply.  Rewriting the headers
to point to a central incoming server that had an alias lookup feature
made it possible for replies to go to an address where they could be
received. 

The policy still stands, despite the argument that nowadays many
people have boxes capable of running incoming smtp servers and valid
reasons for doing so.  Your moodle server is a perfect example.

-- 
Jon Beck, PhD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assoc Professor, Computer Science  2162 Violette Hall
Truman State University  660.785.7233
Kirksville, MO  63501 http://vh216202.truman.edu/

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[tslug] Re: "Mailman config problem, the sequel"

2004-03-13 Thread Andy Hilgartner


Dear Chad,
I live
outside the truman.edu "world" in any sense. I received your
email concerning the fact that you have solved most of the Mailman
configuration problems, except for the poser you posed.
Your email
reached me with an "appendage" -- not an attachment, but
rather, appended text-in-a-printed-box: "This message has been
'sanitized'.  This means that potentially dangerous content has
been rewritten or removed. The following log describes which actions were
taken." 
The
log, of course, makes no particular sense to me.
Since the
Mailman program and I-don't-know-what-else in the truman.edu domain
appears in question, I don't know how to send you back your message,
intact, so you can see how it came through to me. So I've tried the
tactic of sending this email both to your personal address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
and to the [tslug] listserv. 
If I can
support, or assist, you in any other way, please let me know. My contact
information should appear at the bottom of this email, as a
"signature". If it doesn't, you could email me or call me at
627-2519.
Andy


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