[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-10 Thread Jorge Godoy
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[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to evaluate TurboGears for use within a personal project and was wondering which version to use best at this point. The evaluation focuses initially on the persistence system and would look somehow like this: How is the schema-evolution support (which

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 9/7/06, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is the schema-evolution support (which exist within sqlobject) provided within turbogears? AFAIK, it's not. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Jonathan LaCour
Karl Guertin wrote: Ilias Lazaridis:: How is the schema-evolution support (which exist within sqlobject) provided within turbogears? AFAIK, it's not. Short Answer: What Karl said. Long Answer: That being said, TurboGears does provide support for the SQLAlchemy SQL toolkit / ORM. If you

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Alberto Valverde
On Sep 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Jonathan LaCour wrote: That being said, TurboGears does provide support for the SQLAlchemy SQL toolkit / ORM. If you use SQLAlchemy rather than SQLObject, you can use the migrate package (http://erosson.com/migrate) for doing schema evolution and migration.

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 9/7/06, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow!! Can't wait to try it! (Why on earth hasn't this been publicized before on this list?? ;) ) I could have sworn that Kevin has mentioned it a couple times on his blog and I thought Jonathan had mentioned it at least once on this list.

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Alberto Valverde
On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Karl Guertin wrote: On 9/7/06, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow!! Can't wait to try it! (Why on earth hasn't this been publicized before on this list?? ;) ) I could have sworn that Kevin has mentioned it a couple times on his blog and I thought

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jonathan LaCour wrote: Karl Guertin wrote: Ilias Lazaridis:: How is the schema-evolution support (which exist within sqlobject) provided within turbogears? AFAIK, it's not. Short Answer: What Karl said. Long Answer: That being said, TurboGears does provide support for the

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jonathan LaCour wrote: Karl Guertin wrote: Ilias Lazaridis:: How is the schema-evolution support (which exist within sqlobject) provided within turbogears? AFAIK, it's not. Short Answer: What Karl said. Long Answer: That being said, TurboGears does provide support for the

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System 2, SQLAlchemy

2006-09-07 Thread Jonathan LaCour
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Which version should I install in order the evaluate TurboGears/SQLAlchemy? The Database Explorer (CatWalk) should be operative in this version. (I can use svn installations, e.g. latest development source, branches etc., too) I believe that you should be able to

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System 2, SQLAlchemy

2006-09-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jonathan LaCour wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Which version should I install in order the evaluate TurboGears/SQLAlchemy? The Database Explorer (CatWalk) should be operative in this version. (I can use svn installations, e.g. latest development source, branches etc., too) I

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Kevin Dangoor wrote: On Sep 4, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jorge Godoy wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to use the latest development version, if it is stable enouth. I'm working with the head of 1.0 branch. Including production servers. It is stable enough

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-06 Thread Karl Guertin
On 9/6/06, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: easy_install TurboGears retrieved version 0.8.9 easy_install -f http://www.turbogears.org/preview/download/index.html --script-dir /usr/local/bin TurboGears Installs the current version (0.9a9). The docs for this version are at:

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Kevin Dangoor wrote: On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Cliff Wells wrote: I expect it's only a matter of time until he's claiming he's been retained by Blazing Things, LLC to audit TurboGears despite the open animosity the project lead Kevin Dangoor showed toward him wink. Watch out Kevin,

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Karl Guertin wrote: On 9/6/06, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: easy_install TurboGears retrieved version 0.8.9 easy_install -f http://www.turbogears.org/preview/download/index.html --script-dir /usr/local/bin TurboGears This hint comes to the right moment, thank's a lot. I

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Cliff Wells wrote: On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 22:55 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Ilias emailed me after running up against trouble on the Django list. I have looked at that wikipedia page. Ilias had some valid points on his wiki regarding Django. I don't mind productive criticism. I also

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Patrick K. O'Brien
Cliff Wells wrote: On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 22:55 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Ilias emailed me after running up against trouble on the Django list. I have looked at that wikipedia page. Ilias had some valid points on his wiki regarding Django. I don't mind productive criticism. I also

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Cliff Wells
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 06:43 -0700, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or Ilias is a blatant liar. While I would rather stay out of this

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Cliff Wells wrote: I expect it's only a matter of time until he's claiming he's been retained by Blazing Things, LLC to audit TurboGears despite the open animosity the project lead Kevin Dangoor showed toward him wink. Watch out Kevin, next thing you know,

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:00 AM, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] - (fascinating 'analysis') http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Please#PleasebePoliteandCivilized I would like to see the meta discussion end here unless something comes up to change that. With a 1.0b1 release imminent, we have more

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Patrick K. O'Brien wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: ... So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or Ilias is a blatant liar. While I would rather stay out of this discussion as much as possible, I

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Cliff Wells wrote: On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 06:43 -0700, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or Ilias is a blatant liar. While I would

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Jorge Godoy
Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to use the latest development version, if it is stable enouth. I'm working with the head of 1.0 branch. Including production servers. It is stable enough for me. The trunk had some ups and downs, I'm not there anymore. I recommend the

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-04 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Sep 4, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Jorge Godoy wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to use the latest development version, if it is stable enouth. I'm working with the head of 1.0 branch. Including production servers. It is stable enough for me. The trunk had some

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-03 Thread Julio Oña
Dogs are barking Sancho, signal that we advanced (Ladran los perros Sancho, señal de que avanzamos) Don Quijote de La Mancha - Cervantez.Sorry for the poorly googlelate of a famous quoting. On 9/2/06, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michele Cella wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Sep 2, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Michele Cella wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to evaluate TurboGears for use within a personal project and was wondering which version to use best at this point. The evaluation focuses initially on the persistence system and would look somehow like

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-03 Thread Cliff Wells
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 22:55 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Ilias emailed me after running up against trouble on the Django list. I have looked at that wikipedia page. Ilias had some valid points on his wiki regarding Django. I don't mind productive criticism. I also made it clear that I

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-02 Thread Michele Cella
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to evaluate TurboGears for use within a personal project and was wondering which version to use best at this point. The evaluation focuses initially on the persistence system and would look somehow like this:

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-02 Thread Sylvain Hellegouarch
Michele Cella a écrit : Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to evaluate TurboGears for use within a personal project and was wondering which version to use best at this point. The evaluation focuses initially on the persistence system and would look somehow like this:

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-02 Thread Adam Jones
Michele Cella wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to evaluate TurboGears for use within a personal project and was wondering which version to use best at this point. The evaluation focuses initially on the persistence system and would look somehow like this:

[TurboGears] Re: EVALUATION - TurboGears Persistency System

2006-09-02 Thread Cliff Wells
On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Adam Jones wrote: So should we feel good about being popular enough to be worth trolling, or bad about having to deal with that in the community now? I am so conflicted. I feel good that we have members who are so attentive ;-) Regards, Cliff