On Nov 11, 2007 1:38 AM, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beyond that, I think I'll agree with Florent that we can use Elixir as
a default -- if, and only if -- there are no problems with mixing our
default elixir stuff with plain SA.
I strongly object on using an additional layer of
Em Wednesday 07 November 2007 20:55:14 Florent Aide escreveu:
And some clear docs then. Because even with good comments just above
it, the usage of __all__ and its *real* meaning and impact could be
deceptive to someone not used with the intricacies of python.
I'm still not convinced that
On Nov 11, 2007 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: chrisz
Date: Sun Nov 11 06:34:33 2007
New Revision: 3660
URL: http://trac.turbogears.org/changeset/3660
[...]
+* The tg-admin quickstart command has now an option --svn allowing
+ automatic creation of the project in the
Florent Aide wrote:
I vote for explicit imports even if we get too many things imported from ORMs
(be it SA or SO or Elixir). Masking that will defeat part of the idea of
making things clear to the user.
First steps are in r3662 (1.0 branch) and r3663 (1.1 branch)
I like that. Shall I try
Jorge Godoy schrieb:
Em Wednesday 07 November 2007 20:55:14 Florent Aide escreveu:
And some clear docs then. Because even with good comments just above
it, the usage of __all__ and its *real* meaning and impact could be
deceptive to someone not used with the intricacies of python.
I'm
On Nov 11, 2007 2:03 PM, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Maybe we should add a wiki page where we put a commented version of a
default model.py and then just add a link to that page in the model.py
of a quickstarted project? The same could be done for controllers.py.
The
Florent Aide wrote:
+* The tg-admin quickstart command has now an option --svn allowing
+ automatic creation of the project in the specified SVN repository.
This seems interesting :) Do you have some documentation/help on this
functionality? We should definitely write something in
On Nov 11, 2007 2:03 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like that. Shall I try to do the same for SQLObject and Elixir? The
good thing is that since this is only a tempate file, old applications
will not break.
Please do :p I'll move to some other bothering problems in the
On Nov 11, 2007 2:10 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, I can neither edit the page nor add comments.
We could arrange that :), let's ask Chris Arndt.
/flo
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Florent Aide schrieb:
On Nov 11, 2007 2:10 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, I can neither edit the page nor add comments.
We could arrange that :), let's ask Chris Arndt.
I just have to add your wiki name to the EditorGroup page. Should I?
Chris
Florent Aide wrote:
Christopher Arndt wrote:
Maybe we should add a wiki page where we put a commented version of a
default model.py and then just add a link to that page in the model.py
of a quickstarted project? The same could be done for controllers.py.
The problem would be to maintain
Hi all,
a few days ago Graham posted a really interesting mail about the
tgsetup script and its failures:
http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/5de762aa37455c7/d010b45cabae7cff?lnk=gstq=tgsetup#d010b45cabae7cff
same in tiny format: http://tinyurl.com/27b8ef
I do have
Hi all,
I am looking in the dependency list for TG 1.0.4b3... yes there will
be a b3 :) and I am wondering on TurboCheetah.
I see that Kevin bumped TC version to 1.0 more than a year ago, but
when I look in our requirements I see = 0.9.5 and then when I look on
our D/L page and the cheeseshop I
Florent Aide schrieb:
I don't have access to the TurboCheetah's project on the cheeseshop.
Does someone have access to it here?
That would be Kevin or Alberto.
Chris
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Florent Aide wrote:
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
I like that. Shall I try to do the same for SQLObject and Elixir? The
good thing is that since this is only a tempate file, old applications
will not break.
Please do :p I'll move to some other bothering problems in the release
/ install then
On Nov 11, 2007 3:48 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Florent Aide wrote:
I don't have access to the TurboCheetah's project on the cheeseshop.
Does someone have access to it here? If yes could we send the 1.0
release in the wild and up the requirement in TG's setup.py?
On Nov 11, 2007 3:18 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I noticed that the Elixir syntax currently used in model.py is already
half-deprecated:
http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/wiki/Migrate03to04#Syntax:attribute-basedvshas_fieldandwith_fields
I'd like to change that and
Florent Aide wrote:
Good thing. Is there any incompatibilities or upgrade instructions we
should give so people using TG 1.0.3.2 (or newer) with Elixir 0.3 can
upgrade to tg 1.0.4b3 with Elixir 0.4 ?
This document sums is up very well:
http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/wiki/Migrate03to04
-- Chris
Christopher Arndt wrote:
Florent Aide wrote:
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Unfortunately, I can neither edit the page nor add comments.
We could arrange that :), let's ask Chris Arndt.
I just have to add your wiki name to the EditorGroup page. Should I?
That would be helpful. The wiki name is
On Nov 11, 2007 4:44 PM, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Florent Aide wrote:
Good thing. Is there any incompatibilities or upgrade instructions we
should give so people using TG 1.0.3.2 (or newer) with Elixir 0.3 can
upgrade to tg 1.0.4b3 with Elixir 0.4 ?
This document
Christoph Zwerschke schrieb:
Christopher Arndt wrote:
Florent Aide wrote:
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Unfortunately, I can neither edit the page nor add comments.
We could arrange that :), let's ask Chris Arndt.
I just have to add your wiki name to the EditorGroup page. Should I?
That
Florent Aide wrote:
Hi all,
a few days ago Graham posted a really interesting mail about the
tgsetup script and its failures:
http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/5de762aa37455c7/d010b45cabae7cff?lnk=gstq=tgsetup#d010b45cabae7cff
same in tiny format:
Apropos Cheetah, I wonder whether we should replace Cheetah with Tempita
(http://pythonpaste.org/tempita/). It's pure Python, more lightweight
than Cheetah, integrates well with Paste and, as Ian Bicking noted, will
eventually be required by TG 2.0 anyway, since it's needed by weberror.
I
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 12:22 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote:
Florent Aide wrote:
Hi all,
a few days ago Graham posted a really interesting mail about the
tgsetup script and its failures:
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 13:44 -0800, Mark Ramm wrote:
I'm thinking Python 2.3 support could go away soon. My argument is
simple RHEL users were the ones stuck on python 2.3 and there's now an
updated RHEL. Beyond that Python 2.4 came out in 2004, so people
should have had time to support
Florent Aide wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking in the dependency list for TG 1.0.4b3... yes there will
be a b3 :) and I am wondering on TurboCheetah.
I see that Kevin bumped TC version to 1.0 more than a year ago, but
when I look in our requirements I see = 0.9.5 and then when I look on
our
Em Sunday 11 November 2007 21:49:03 Christoph Zwerschke escreveu:
So my suggestion is to throw all of this additional non-working stuff
away (it's still available in the SVN 0.9.5 tag if anybody wants to pick
this work up) and create a streamlined 1.0 version instead, that
contains only the
Mark Ramm wrote:
2.3 support also adds a lot of work for the release team in TG 1.x,
which is 100% waste of valuable developer time if people don't really
need 2.3 any more.
What are the thoughts from the rest of tg community?
I think we should move to 2.4 in TG 1.1 and to 2.5 in TG 2.0.
Christoph Zwerschke schrieb:
Christopher Arndt wrote:
When you edit the TgAdmin page, be sure to keep an eye on which
features are available in which version. For 1.1 only features, you
should probably copy 1.0/TgAdmin to 1.1/TgAdmin and edit that.
I'll try to go over the docs next week.
Christoph Zwerschke schrieb:
Mark Ramm wrote:
2.3 support also adds a lot of work for the release team in TG 1.x,
which is 100% waste of valuable developer time if people don't really
need 2.3 any more.
What are the thoughts from the rest of tg community?
+1 for dropping 2.3 support in TG
On Mon, 2007-12-11 at 01:40 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote:
Christoph Zwerschke schrieb:
Mark Ramm wrote:
2.3 support also adds a lot of work for the release team in TG 1.x,
which is 100% waste of valuable developer time if people don't really
need 2.3 any more.
What are the thoughts
Christopher Arndt wrote:
TG 1.0.x will go into maintenance mode soon anyway, from the look of
things, so it should be easy to keep 2.3 support there.
That were my thoughts, too.
But in TG 1.1 we should really drop Py 2.3. Not only because of the
missing decorator syntax, but because of many
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