Re: svn commit: r394667 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca: containers/container.java/src/test/java/org/apache/tuscany/container/java/mock/ core/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/core/context/ core/src/m

2006-04-17 Thread Jim Marino
I think we may need something like this again when we support nested configuration...what do you think? On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: jboynes Date: Mon Apr 17 06:37:49 2006 New Revision: 394667 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=394667view=rev Log:

Re: New Celtix binding in the sandbox

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: Jim, I think this is a really good start but before they get moved up I'd like to see some unit test coverage. Agreed. Normally, I wouldn't have even submitted a patch without some tests in place. That really bothers me. But I was

system services

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Marino
I noticed in system.module we are using qualified names for system services based on the full name of the implementation class. I'd prefer if we continue to use the dot notation, but shorten the names, e.g.: org.apache.tuscany.core.loader.WSDLDefinitionRegistry to

Re: system services

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Marino
I was thinking we would reserve system for Tuscany things. This would be unique. Jim On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I noticed in system.module we are using qualified names for system services based on the full name of the implementation class. I'd

Re: Support for asynchronous non-blocking calls available in the sandbox

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Marino
great. I'll take a look today and tomorrow. I'm also interested in helping so let me know what you would like done. Jim On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: I checked a first implementation of support for async non-blocking calls in the sandbox. Directory

Re: Coding guidelines

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Marino
Sure - it's already in the sandbox under jim/docs/ exception_handling.html. These were agreed to at the outset of the project (along with the IDE templates) and drafted by Sebastien, Jeremy, myself based on some guidelines donated by Mike Rowley. Jim On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:25 AM, haleh

Re: WS interop/intergation/functional testing

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Generally I like this approach - I do have a couple of small comments inline. On 4/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Create a new folder under testing called 'interop' . Interop may not be the best name, feel free to suggest

including celtix in refactor work and checkstyle

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Marino
Just a friendly reminder to those working on the core or model to please include celtix in their refactorings. I accidentally forgot to check in my refactors (sandbox is separate) and run the checkstyle tests from celtix/binding.celtix resulting in Dan having a broken demo :-( Also,

Re: Support for asynchronous non-blocking calls available in the sandbox

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Marino
+1 to move it Jim On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: I checked a first implementation of support for async non-blocking calls in the sandbox. Directory sandbox/sebastien/java/sca/async contains the runtime code, sandbox/sebastien/java/samples/ helloworldasync

Re: WS interop/intergation/functional testing

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
On Apr 25, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Generally I like this approach - I do have a couple of small comments inline. On 4/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Create a new folder under

Re: Checkstyle enforcement proposal...

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
The only one I think we may not want is the TYPECAST. That said, I'm not fussy about line length as long as it is consistent, not too long, not too short. One thing I would like to change is throwing errors for when parameter names hide member variables since I think this is o.k. Dan, do

Re: EntryPoint name must match wired-to Service name?

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
Could you post a stack trace? Thanks, Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Scott Kurz wrote: I'm observing an issue (running April 17th SVN contents) and I'm not sure if this is a bug or a limitation with the current Tuscany implementation or if this is working according to the 0.9 spec (in

Re: EntryPoint name must match wired-to Service name?

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
Nevermind, ' I just saw the JIRA. Thanks. Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Jim Marino wrote: Could you post a stack trace? Thanks, Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Scott Kurz wrote: I'm observing an issue (running April 17th SVN contents) and I'm not sure if this is a bug

Re: Checkstyle enforcement proposal...

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
So if we do not have the space restriction, checks for parameter names, and run this only pre-commit, would you be o.k. with it? I would like to have this in since it is a nice check and should not be burdensome assuming people set the proper template in their IDE. On Apr 26, 2006, at

Re: Checkstyle enforcement proposal...

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
. I'm also proposing this for after JavaOne and many of the more important items. Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: So if we do not have the space restriction, checks for parameter names, and run this only pre-commit, would you be o.k. with it? I would

Re: Moving the Celtix binding to the bindings/ directory, was: including celtix in refactor work and checkstyle

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Marino
+1 Dan submitted a patch with testcases so I think it should go into the build process with that patch applied. Thanks Dan! Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: Just a friendly reminder to those working on the core or model to please include

Re: Checkstyle enforcement proposal...

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Marino
Yep, absolutely that makes sense. Jim On Apr 26, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I agree poor test coverage is more important but this shouldn't be a big deal - I'll even do it for all of the packages myself. I think this is one of those incremental

Re: Use of references with multiplicity *..n?

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Marino
They should be working for Java types. Could you open a Jira and post the two component classes (particularly the interfaces) you are trying to wire together along with the SCDL? I'll try and take a look this weekend. Jim On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: Not sure

Re: Support for asynchronous non-blocking calls available in the sandbox

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Ignacio, I'm planning to work on conversational support following JavaOne if you (or others are interested). This will involve a refactoring of the scope containers slightly to accommodate a persistent store. Let me know if you are interested in working on this together. Jim On

Re: Support for asynchronous non-blocking calls available in the sandbox

2006-04-29 Thread Jim Marino
Cool. I have some work on a BigBank async sample done as part of the specification collaboration that I need to clear but once I do, we can discuss that as part of this topic. The scope containers may need to be refactored slightly (we can discuss) as well as I believe there may need to

[RESULT]Re: Karma for Dan

2006-05-02 Thread Jim Marino
Result of the vote for Dan Kulp as committer on Apache Tuscany: +1 jmarino,jboynes,antelder,dims,jsdelfino,rineholt No -1s Dan welcome to the Apache Tuscany community! We'll start the process of getting you karma. Jim On Apr 29, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jim Marino wrote: I'd like to propose

release naming scheme

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, I've noticed in JIRA we are naming our release .91. Is that just a JIRA thing (i.e. make it easier to organize stuff for us) or is it assumed that we would call the JavaOne binary a .91 release? I think we should discuss what we want to call the binary, so I'll throw my opinion in

inclusion of samples in the Java SCA build process

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Marino
I noticed with the recent changes to move samples under /java/sca they are not built as part of the main developer build. I agree the samples should be moved there but not that they be built as part of the main developer build. I'm not sure whether this was a byproduct of the move but

Fwd: inclusion of samples in the Java SCA build process

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Marino
Small clarification the first sentence should be: I noticed with the recent changes to move samples under /java/sca they are now built as part of the main developer build. Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 5, 2006 1:14:52 PM PDT To: tuscany-dev

Re: Groovy Container

2006-05-07 Thread Jim Marino
Yes by all means. Could you post it to JIRA? Thanks! Jim On May 7, 2006, at 12:14 PM, meeraj kunnumpurath wrote: Hi, I have written a Groovy container for Tuscany. Is it worth submitting? Kind regards Meeraj -- ___ Search for businesses by

Celtix 1.0

2006-05-08 Thread Jim Marino
Congrats Dan! http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=40320

Re: Maven artifactID for all samples to sample-xxxxx

2006-05-10 Thread Jim Marino
This is the same in IntelliJ too so I think it is a good thing to do. +1 On May 10, 2006, at 6:32 AM, cr22rc2 wrote: I'd like to propose for all samples be it the yet undecided name for what BB is and the other technology samples to prepend to the maven artifactid sample-. I hate to be

Re: [VOTE] Publish Tuscany M1 release

2006-05-18 Thread Jim Marino
+1 On May 18, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Hi! I created source and binary distributions of the latest Tuscany Milestone 1 release candidate level (SVN revision r407596) and placed them in my home directory: http://people.apache.org/~jsdelfino/test-incubating-M1/tuscany-

Re: [jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-415) Add a Spring container to Tuscany so that Spring beans can be used as an implementation for SCA components

2006-05-22 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Raymond, I took a look at the implementation and have a few observations: - It appears that a Spring application context is created for each method on a bean. Was this intentional, since I would have thought that a Spring application context would be created per composite? In other

Re: [jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-415) Add a Spring container to Tuscany so that Spring beans can be used as an implementation for SCA components

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Marino
Groovy now. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-415) Add a Spring container to Tuscany so that Spring beans can be used as an implementation

Re: svn commit: r409076 - in /incubator/tuscany/sandbox/jboynes/sca/containers/container.spring: ./ src/ src/main/ src/main/java/ src/main/java/org/ src/main/java/org/apache/ src/main/java/org/apache/

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Raymond, Comments inline... On May 24, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, Jim/Jeremy. I don't see XXXImplementationLoader (except SystemImplementationLoader) any more in the sandbox code. Are they just not implmented or do we now have a new model to populate the

Spring integration chat transcript

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Marino
jmarino: so Raymond, I checked in some skeletal code last night [11:15am] rfeng: yes, I did a brief reading [11:16am] jmarino: k good .did you also have a chance to take a look at the Groovy extension? [11:16am] rfeng: so the basic idea is to model a set of spring beans as a composite?

Re: svn commit: r409076 - in /incubator/tuscany/sandbox/jboynes/sca/containers/container.spring: ./ src/ src/main/ src/main/java/ src/main/java/org/ src/main/java/org/apache/ src/main/java/org/apache/

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Marino
On May 24, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On 5/24/06, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for the explanations. I can help to port/develop the implementation/componentType loaders. As the first step, I'm trying JavaImplementationLoader and

Re: Getting list of components in a module

2006-05-26 Thread Jim Marino
for JavaScript. ...ant On 5/24/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain why you need the list of components? For managed code (i.e. in a component) the spec defines a way to get the metadata associated with a module. Jim On May 24, 2006, at 1:30 AM, ant elder wrote: I've

Re: Question about the annotation processor framework

2006-05-27 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Raymond, Jeremy is in the process of moving the annotation processing framework from trunk to sandbox/core2, which involves some refactors to the processing rules it implements to better accommodate unannotated Pojos (this was an issue with M1). Jim On May 26, 2006, at 9:38 AM,

Re: Annotation processing changes

2006-05-29 Thread Jim Marino
On May 29, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: In M1 we do not have a consistent approach on how the component type information is derived for a component implemented by a Java class. This, combined with some poor wording in the spec itself (inconsistencies, fragmentation), led to a number

Re: Getting list of components in a module

2006-05-31 Thread Jim Marino
preferred approach or alternative suggestions? My preferred approach is to design a management API incrementally Thanks, ...ant On 5/26/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea sorry got called into other things yesterday. We definitely don't want to cast like that since

Re: support on WebLogic and WebSphere?

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Marino
Hi John, Tuscany M1 should be able to run in any Servlet container. We have done a deep integration with Tomcat for an out-of-the-box experience. Moving forward, we plan to support additional platforms. If you really want to deploy to WebLogic or Websphere, the easiest mechanism would

Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-05 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, There has been some mention offline of Jeremy and I providing an overview of changes to the SCA specifications and related recursive core architecture work going on in the sandbox, perhaps Wednesday. I'm happy to do this, however, I'm a bit concerned that since this has not been

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-05 Thread Jim Marino
Yes this would be appreciated. Can you make sure it's in a common graphic format - I'm too cheap to shell out the $$ for a UML tool ;-) Jim On Jun 5, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, I have created some basic slides and UML diagrams when I looked into the

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-06 Thread Jim Marino
have anything in the way of explanatory material that you could circulate on the list/wiki before the presentation, I think that would be very useful.. certainly I could use a little more context to help with my own browsing. thanks, k On 6/5/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-06 Thread Jim Marino
proposals we could discuss with them. Ideas? Jim On Jun 6, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: By the way can someone explain what the term Recursive Core Architecture means? Paul On 6/6/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as if we have the choice of Thursday or Friday this week

Re: UML diagrams and a draft PDF document for the sandbox core are uploaded to Tuscany Wiki

2006-06-06 Thread Jim Marino
Thanks Raymond for taking this on. I have made to refactors today so could you regenerate (I hope you didn't have to do the model by hand)? The two basic changes I did are: 1. Rename ScopeContext to ScopeContainer since it contains component implementation instances 2. Internalized

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Marino
and membership regulations around the spec group? Is there a web page you can point me at that outlines those? Paul On 6/7/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question... In the spec group, one of the major changes we are currently undertaking is a move to a recursive model where components

Re: UML diagrams and a draft PDF document for the sandbox core are uploaded to Tuscany Wiki

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Marino
Great - thanks a bunch! On Jun 7, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, Jim. The UML diagrams on the wiki page (http://wiki.apache.org/ws/ Tuscany/TuscanyJava/SandboxCore) are now updated to reflect your changes. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jim Marino

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Marino
of the collaboration agreement designed for this purpose. Simon Jim Marino wrote: Good question... In the spec group, one of the major changes we are currently undertaking is a move to a recursive model where components can either be leaf-types (atomic) or composite, in which case they may

Re: Recursive core architectural overview

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Paul Fremantle wrote: Jim Its a great question. I think the answer is that they stick to published specs, which is what I was expecting Tuscany to do given the closed nature of the spec group. I'll ask around to find out. Geronimo has

Friday SCA spec and recursive core update

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Marino
Separating this into a new thread since the other one has a new ongoing topic... Some of the people are going to have trouble staying past 9.30PST for the call to cover the new spec changes and core design. So, we are going to have the meeting run from 7.30PST-9.30PST. I will circulate

Re: SVN Properties

2006-06-08 Thread Jim Marino
I think Jeremy is being charitable in taking some of the blame; it was mostly my (new) machine. Thanks for fixing. Jim On Jun 8, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I did a big checkin Saturday to fix problems with SVN properties that were incorrectly set due to incorrect configurations

Slide format for Today's call

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Marino
Sorry I will post in a more accessible format ASAP. Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Slides for Today's call [PDF Format]

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 9, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Jim Marino wrote: tuscany.architecture.v4.ppt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Slides for Today's call [PDF Format]

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Marino
Sorry - trouble this am my time :-) Now Attached. Jim On Jun 9, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Jim Marino wrote: On Jun 9, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Jim Marino wrote: tuscany.architecture.v4.ppt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation

2006-06-09 Thread Jim Marino
Hi, Thanks everyone who attended today's call. The slides have been checked into SVN at: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/sandbox/jboynes/sca/doc We would appreciate any comments, questions, feedback, and suggestions on the session, and more importantly, the sandbox code at:

Re: Checkstyle sandbox commit review/thoughts....

2006-06-10 Thread Jim Marino
Yea thanks for pointing this out. I stuck things there since I was having a bit of trouble getting checkstyle picked up by the lower projects and figured I wait for your help to sort it out :) One thing is a relaxed some of the checks (e.g. line length to 120, parameter names are allowed

Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation

2006-06-10 Thread Jim Marino
I also forgot one big area that needs work: Management. This is a topic that is starting to come up in the spec group and it would be great if we could propose some ideas to them. Jim On Jun 9, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Jim Marino wrote: Hi, Thanks everyone who attended today's call. The slides

Re: Checkstyle sandbox commit review/thoughts....

2006-06-10 Thread Jim Marino
FYI Dan I switched awhile back from Eclipse (I was a long-time user) to IntelliJ and I love it. It takes a bit getting used to the key mappings but the refactoring capabilities are just awesome. I'm also amazed at the things it can catch from analyzing code. And even better, JetBrains

Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation

2006-06-12 Thread Jim Marino
in these areas. Cheers, Joel Hawkins -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:08 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation I also forgot one big area that needs work: Management

Re: Bootstrapping Tuscany runtime and locating a service with sandbox code

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Rashmi, Jeremy will be able to answer your question regarding bootstrapping. For how to locate services, the spec API is evolving to accommodate the new recursive API. I have some thoughts I have been working on in the sandbox under jboynes/spec/sca but they are very early which will

Re: bulding a sandbox / branch

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Marino
The easiest solution to this is to check the sandbox code out and build it using the correct poms. Jim On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Scott Kurz wrote: How does one build sandbox code, for example Jeremy's sandbox (which he's moving to a branch) ? I tried extracting the sandbox and

Re: bulding a sandbox / branch

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Marino
wrote: OK.. doing a find-replace on the sandbox's poms seems to work... just making sure that was correct... thanks On 6/13/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The easiest solution to this is to check the sandbox code out and build it using the correct poms. Jim On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:29

Re: Building twice?

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Marino
I've been seeing the same thing for a while and was also going to ask about it but never got around to it On Jun 13, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I noticed that the build for the code in the sandbox builds each module twice - not sure when this started but it didn't use to. Is

Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation

2006-06-18 Thread Jim Marino
- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:38 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Hi Joel, Great. Do you have some specific areas you are interested in working on w.r.t to Tuscany? I started

Re: Sample Implementation and Binding extensions

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Marino
Which code base are you intending to use: the M1 which implements the old .9 spec or the sandbox one which implements support for the new recursive model, or both? In terms of how to specifically improve the extensibility story, my opinions have been embodied in the sandbox code and

move of container.java to core2

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Marino
In trying to eliminate reliance on core2 by container.java in the sandbox and have it only rely on the extensibility SPI, it occurred to me that this would mandate moving a lot of implementation classes from core2 into SPI. I believe having container.java as a separate project rely on

Re: move of container.java to core2

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Marino
POJO container is the least worst option. -- Jeremy Jim Marino wrote: In trying to eliminate reliance on core2 by container.java in the sandbox and have it only rely on the extensibility SPI, it occurred to me that this would mandate moving a lot of implementation classes from core2 into SPI

Re: move of container.java to core2

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Marino
yea sounds good except I'll abbreviate implementation to impl so the package names are reasonable. Jim On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jim Marino wrote: I'm leaning towards combining them because separating commonalities out into a third project is basically creating

Re: move of container.java to core2

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: In trying to eliminate reliance on core2 by container.java in the sandbox and have it only rely on the extensibility SPI, it occurred to me that this would mandate moving a lot of implementation classes from

Re: Sample Implementation and Binding extensions

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
with the version of ASM it is using. I don't have the Tuscany thread right now but if you do a search, it involves deleting a version of ASM from you maven repo. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll look. Jim On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote

Re: Tuscany SPI interfaces

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
In the new core2 API, component factory is no longer needed. AtomicComponent contains the invocation chains and and is responsible for creating invokers. Related to having WSDL or Java interface types, one of the things we also did was separate proxy creation from the wire so now you can

Re: Any recursive composition sample?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 21, 2006, at 4:48 AM, cr22rc wrote: I'd like to help out on this and also the SPI analysis work you spoke of. Per the samples I had some thoughts that instead of just jumping straight to them is to add some more for baby steps in bring up. For example I'd like to see as starters

Re: Any recursive composition sample?

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
a point that this is too much for one sample, but generally these three technologies look in the minds of people to be sort of separate and I still like the idea of a sample that shows them all coming together. Jim Marino wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 4:48 AM, cr22rc wrote: I'd like

Re: Tuscany SPI interfaces

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Marino
2:08 AM Subject: Re: Tuscany SPI interfaces Jim Marino wrote: I think you missed something. With core2, most people will extend from the helper abstract classes in the SPI extension package (this was also the case with the previous core). For example: I didn't miss this class, as I said

Re: move of container.java to core2

2006-06-22 Thread Jim Marino
evils, the other approach being a lot of duplicate code. Jim On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Jun 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: In trying to eliminate reliance on core2 by container.java

Fwd: svn commit: r416930 - in /incubator/tuscany/sandbox/jboynes/spec/sca/src/main/java/org/osoa/sca: ./ annotations/

2006-06-24 Thread Jim Marino
FYI I've started migrating sandbox code to use the new recursive SCA API. This API has been accepted with a bunch of changes including Jeremy's constructor injection proposal. The intent is the Tuscany SCA API jar will be donated to/used by the spec group. A quick overview of what has

Eager Init sample r416952

2006-06-24 Thread Jim Marino
I've add a simple temporary class that to the eagerinit sample - LifecycleDemonstration - that demonstrates component lifecycle management, eager initialization, and destruction. As soon as we get the SCDL loading connected to the builders, this class can go away and we will be able to

Re: Eager Init sample r416952

2006-06-25 Thread Jim Marino
I'm going to tweak the composite startup code so that we don't need to leak the scope container to the deployer's client. I hope to get that done on the next leg :-) -- Jeremy On 6/24/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've add a simple temporary class that to the eagerinit sample

Re: [PATCH] Upgrade container.spring in Jeremy's sandbox to Spring 2.0-M5 level

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Marino
Ken was working on this. Ken? Since he may be traveling, if we don't hear back, I'll apply it tomorrow. Jim On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:38 PM, Raymond Feng wrote: A gentle reminder: Is anyone looking into the patch? I just tried it with Spring 2.0 RC1 and here's a new one updated to 2.0 RC1

Re: Eager Init sample r416952

2006-06-26 Thread Jim Marino
process. We could expand it further but I think that we'll basically end up duplicating the code that would be in the Launcher. Rick, weren't you looking at that? How is it going? -- Jeremy On 6/26/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically the runtime has two hierarchical trees, one

Re: Creating multiple / smaller SPI projects

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 26, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On 6/26/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a few thoughts and questions on our SPI story. I'd like to start a discussion on these items and get your thoughts. Cool. My first thought is that what you're describing

Re: SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Marino
objects, which will generate lots of questions. Looking forward to the journey. Cheers, Joel -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:58 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core

Re: Making invokers/interceptors actual components

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 26, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: I'm looking at the Invoker/interceptor contribution mechanism and I'd like to propose to make them actual components. Currently an interceptor is not a component, it's an object added to an invocation chain by a Builder component.

Re: Any recursive composition sample?

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Marino
Thanks for volunteering! The Spring container that Ken is working on will demonstrate how composites function. However, just to be accurate, we do not have *any* samples in core2 yet - it's not just a question about recursion. If people want to develop them and help out that would be

Re: Tuscany SPI interfaces

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Marino
issued by the runtime All of these methods deal directly with a component and are very easy to implement. I don't see the need to Balkanize the API. Which of these methods do you think can be broken out? Jim On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:08 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino

Re: Status of databinding module in sandbox and DataMediation

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Raymond, I think this would be really good to get it into the sandbox. Can you point me to the latest patch and we'll get it in ASAP? Jim On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, Do you think if my prototype can be used as a seed to flush out a good data mediation

Re: Status of databinding module in sandbox and DataMediation

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Marino
I was thinking it would be a system service since it appears to be applicable to a wide variety of things in the runtime. Having it as a system service also allows it to be managed and autowired to other extension points (e.g. services, bindings, components that may want to use it). If

Re: Status of databinding module in sandbox and DataMediation

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Marino
implementations 5) Split the project into multiple ones: one for the framework and each per data binding 6) Add more data bindings Any feedback will be welcome. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10

Re: Status of databinding module in sandbox and DataMediation

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Marino
type to the component implementations 5) Split the project into multiple ones: one for the framework and each per data binding 6) Add more data bindings Any feedback will be welcome. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent

Re: Support for callbacks

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: I'd like to start working on providing support for callbacks, assuming the sandbox is a good place to do this. Great. In case you haven't seen it, we have some architecture slides in the sandbox under jboynes/sca/doc in

Re: Support for callbacks

2006-06-30 Thread Jim Marino
On Jun 29, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Support for callbacks On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: I'd

core2 checkin reminder

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
Just a reminder (since it was buried in a previous email thread)...When doing checkins on the sandbox core2 implementation, please run: $ mvn -Psourcecheck This will execute PMD and Checkstyle as part of the build. Thanks, Jim

Re: Using scenarios, was: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 1, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: 1. Use scenarios to drive the M2 work Start a community discussion on the end to end scenarios that we want to support in M2. I'm thinking about concrete end to end scenarios that define the end user

Re: PMD problem?, was: core2 checkin reminder

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
I'd say change PMD. On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On 6/30/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder (since it was buried in a previous email thread)...When doing checkins on the sandbox core2 implementation, please run: $ mvn -Psourcecheck This will execute

Re: Support for callbacks

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Ignacio, Let's try IRC, perhaps Monday's chat? Other comments inline... On Jun 30, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: Apologies Jeremy, didn't mean to exclude people, just trying to expedite the discussion. The first basic issue I see is how to incorporate callbacks as defined

Re: PMD problem?, was: core2 checkin reminder

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
Yea sorry, comment out the rule. Jim On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On 7/1/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say change PMD. Do you mean comment out the rule or fix the bug? The latter is a better solution but I'm hoping you mean the first :-) -- Jeremy

Re: SPI modularity

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 1, 2006, at 2:42 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: - Modularity, building our runtime in a more modular way, with more but simpler modules, clean SPI modules with only interfaces, and decoupling the core and the Java component implementation type / container. -

Re: Which codebase?, was: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Oh look, there's an elephant in the sandbox. On 6/30/06, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Stage the assembly of our M2 runtime. I propose that we start a fresh stream for M2 and build the runtime through baby steps, in

Re: SPI modularity

2006-07-02 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 1, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On 7/1/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe a good portion of that 300K is related to the Geronimo WorkManager dependencies. Since WorkManager can be implemented as a thin facade over the JDK 5 concurrency libraries, we should look

Java SCA scenarios wiki page

2006-07-02 Thread Jim Marino
I've added a skeleton wiki page for scenarios people are working on or are interested in for the Java SCA runtime at : http://wiki.apache.org/ws/Tuscany/TuscanyJava/Scenarios?action=show Most of the content are placeholders so it would be great if those interested started to add more

Re: Using scenarios, was: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-02 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 2, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Clemens Utschig - Utschig (Oracle) wrote: Comments linline ... Jim Marino wrote: On Jul 2, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Simon Nash wrote: My comments are inline below. Simon Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: 1. Use scenarios to drive the M2 work

Re: Using scenarios, was: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-02 Thread Jim Marino
More comments inline... On Jul 2, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Simon Nash wrote: My comments are inline below. Simon Jeremy Boynes wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: 1. Use scenarios to drive the M2 work Start a community discussion on the end to end scenarios that we want to support in M2.

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