Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin Williams
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Chet Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Kevin Williams wrote: Let's compare to a Wordpress blog run on Apache using mod_php. The PHP code does not serves all requests. Apache serves up the static content (css, javascript, graphics,

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-17 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Kevin Williams wrote: At the time Mongrel came around, no one, and I mean no one, would touch the mod_ruby code. Webrick was slow and FastCGI was very buggy at best. Zed Shaw stepped up with a strictly-spec-compliant and fast web server for Ruby. There was much

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 17, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Chet Farmer wrote: My complaints really began with this very point; recall one of my original points was the poor state of documentation concerning the idiosyncratic installation requirements of Typo. If it were more clear why I should consider installing

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-17 Thread de Villamil Frédéric
Le 17 juil. 08 à 22:30, Scott Likens a écrit : On Jul 17, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Chet Farmer wrote: My complaints really began with this very point; recall one of my original points was the poor state of documentation concerning the idiosyncratic installation requirements of Typo. If it were

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
Look. I like Typo. I'm still trying to use it. But mails like this just tick me off. They provide no help to speak of while insisting there is no problem. Also, proofreading is a good idea. On Jul 15, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Scott Likens wrote: To whomever it may concern, I reckon that

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
Chet, Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? I suppose someone can whip up some instructions on how to make the config.ru for Passenger if need be. Typo is imo extremely easy to deploy and get up in running in under 5 minutes. If your having a problem

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Likens wrote: Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP stack tool to Typo's and you'll see the huge

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:43 AM, Chet Farmer wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:04 AM, Scott Likens wrote: Which portion of the documentation needs to be revised? FastCGI? Mongrel? Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Scott Likens wrote: Honestly, all of it. I know that's a broad answer, but it's the truth. Compare the installation experience of a LAMP stack tool to Typo's and you'll see the huge gap. In particular, deeper descriptions of why Mongrel needs to be involved,

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread JZ
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whomever it may concern, I notice the common thread here. How to deploy typo? There is many ways to deploy typo, the most common is 1) FastCGI. We all know, it sucks. 2) Mongrel/Webrick Nginx with proxy load

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Chet Farmer wrote: We are comparing an Apple to a Pear, LAMP is not the same as LAMR or a Ruby on Rails install. Please stop comparing it, you are doing nothing useful by doing that. Are you really saying you can't compare a Ruby app with a LAMP app? That's

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Scott Likens
On Jul 16, 2008, at 5:09 PM, JZ wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whomever it may concern, I notice the common thread here. How to deploy typo? There is many ways to deploy typo, the most common is 1) FastCGI. We all know, it sucks. It

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Williams
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Scott Likens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If thin supported Streaming (Not Media, but the Mongrel Extension) it would be something I would have no issue using. I've mentioned that to the author of Thin and we'll see how that goes. Thin depends on the

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Williams
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Chet Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why on earth would you need to run a second web server? That seems like a really bad idea, frankly, hence my annoyance that the most obvious question (which boils down to WTF?, essentially) isn't addressed. Let's compare

Re: [typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-16 Thread Chet Farmer
On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Scott Likens wrote: Are you really saying you can't compare a Ruby app with a LAMP app? That's ridiculous. How else can someone decide between Typo and MT and WP and etc? No, you're just wrong. It makes PERFECT sense to compare the experience of setting up

[typo] Deploying Ruby on Rails Applications (was: Re: Can't update feeds?)

2008-07-15 Thread Scott Likens
To whomever it may concern, I notice the common thread here. How to deploy typo? There is many ways to deploy typo, the most common is 1) FastCGI. (It's also the most murky confusing documentation imo, I don't blame this on typo, I blame this on FastCGI Documentation and the people who