Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Scott Kitterman wrote: And also best that these apps not require configuration prior to gaining access to the preference (e.g. the Evolution example given earlier). Requiring users to set up applications in order to not be bothered by them in the menu is not a usability win. +1 and

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread David Barth
Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to some other icon when there ARE NO

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
David Barth wrote: Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to some other icon when

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this use case does not justify the creation of one. We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The reason is for blacklisting applications. Originally

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread David Siegel
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:44AM , Ted Gould wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this use case does not justify the creation of one. We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread David Siegel
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:44AM , Ted Gould wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: There is no need for a Preferences for the Messaging Menu, and this use case does not justify the creation of one. We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ted Gould wrote: We have specified a preference dialog for the messaging menu. The reason is for blacklisting applications. Please unspecify said preference dialog ;-) Relevant apps installed by the user should put themselves in this menu. For default apps which are not desired by the

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:55:38 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth m...@canonical.com wrote: For default apps which are not desired by the user, the preference to take them out of the menu will be in the app. Best we pick those defaults well And also best that these apps not require configuration prior to

Re: [Ayatana] [Bug 410220] Re: Indicator applet Always shows icon

2009-08-24 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Aha! And this is the nature of the bug as I see it. I do not HAVE a message of any kind, but I still have the e-mail icon. Please switch to some other icon when there ARE NO MESSAGES, and I'll be