This might be worth fixing in Trusty so that one can use ubuntu-bug from
the Live CD if there is another point release.
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-updates,
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Title:
-updates, -security missing from apt lists
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Ok, I'm also +1 on releasing the change I proposed. This shouldn't have
any effect on ubuntu-touch since with Martin's apport change landed we
can re-add the livecd-rootfs changes that were removing the apt lists
completely. This way ubuntu-touch would re-gain the lost disk space
while others can
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Title:
-updates, -security missing from apt lists
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Martin has made a change to apport in bug 1489410 that allows apport to
work from devices where the apt lists do not exist. However, this will
not help with the situation I've described in comment #29 (point release
Live CDs). So I think this is still worth fixing.
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I agree that we need a proper fix for the bug of requiring the apt lists
in the first place. Thanks for the bug report Pat! It's a separate issue
in overall, so no use discussing it here - in my opinion if we include
apt lists anyway, there's no real point in removing only some of them.
And as
Here is my two cents
Go ahead and land for Wily and I assume a Vivid SRU to unblock the issue
For phone images we want a new solution with a smaller initial footprint or
with the list generated dynamically in order to reclaim the @70MB+ of space
used in the update partition. This should then be
11:18 rbasak pmcgowan: could you comment on bug 1471903 please? ogra_
wanted you to have an opportunity to comment before we go ahead and
upload the proposed fix there to Wily, since we want the fix to end up
in the vivid-overlay PPA.
11:18 ubottu bug 1471903 in live-build (Ubuntu) -updates,
Fix for phone images reported as bug #1489410
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ogra asked on IRC to wait until the phone product team can comment on
Monday.
Here's how it sounds to me (my attempt at a summary):
0) apport-cli and user crash reporting is broken because the -security
and -update apt lists are missing.
1) It isn't ideal for apt lists to be shipped in the
note that i'm assuming you also want this in the vivid-overlay PPA for
the phones to fix the bug there too.
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Title:
-updates, -security missing
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.
A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/1471903
** Tags added: iso-testing
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Missing list files also affects the ability to use ubuntu-bug on Live
CDs for point releases (which have packages from -updates or -security).
See duplicate bug 1423382.
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Anyone willing to sponsor this for me? Once it's in we can SRU it to all
other required distros. I suppose the general consensus is that for the
time being this would be the right thing to do.
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note that we are not shipping *any* package lists today, it is 0 vs
whatever tens of MB we add by removing the patch, there is no slightly
bigger
also this patch isnt enough i think, IIRC there are other places in
livecd-rootfs where the package lists are forcefully removed to make sure we
dont
it was a wily chroot (I didnt have a vivid one at hand) but that should
only vary minimally.
note that we force deb-src for all entries (since up to now we could and
it eases development a lot, i guess if you really want to ship the pre-
generated lists, we'd have to reverse this decision (and
@Oliver
Yes we are shipping package lists today. Check the ubuntu-touch generated
rootfs - /var/lib/apt/lists has vivid packagelists and the stable-phone-overlay
packages lists. So we do ship those and we even ship the overlay ones. There
size will not change much if we include -security and
@lukasz
wow, that is seriously wrong, there was code that completely wiped them on
purpose, someone must have removed the livecd-rootfs patches the OEM team added
in the beginning.
this clearly cuts down the numbers that we used to compute the partition sizes.
back when we did that there were
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:05:32AM -, Oliver Grawert wrote:
...since you need to use a terminal or developer
mode to even execute it...
You just need to enable ssh, which is trivial. You do need a terminal to
do that, but no developer mode. I cannot run sudo apt-get
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:59:24AM -, Oliver Grawert wrote:
@robie
out of 10 million users, how many do you expect to use apport-cli ? 1000 ?
5000?
should the rest really suffer by having size limitations just for these few
while we can have better solutions like creating these files
I think the solution of removing the patch is still ok since as Brian
mentioned, -updates and -security enabled only increases the size
slightly. The overlay PPA in apt lists is not related to this bug as we
already have those in our read-only images. There was no patch that
would remove those, so
Checked on the phone: -security and -updates lists in summary weight
4.9MB right now. This shouldn't be too bad in overall.
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Title:
-updates,
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:05:32AM -, Oliver Grawert wrote:
note that we are not shipping *any* package lists today, it is 0 vs
whatever tens of MB we add by removing the patch, there is no slightly
bigger
also this patch isnt enough i think, IIRC there are other places in
livecd-rootfs
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:59:24AM -, Oliver Grawert wrote:
@lukasz
wow, that is seriously wrong, there was code that completely wiped them on
purpose, someone must have removed the livecd-rootfs patches the OEM team
added in the beginning.
this clearly cuts down the numbers that we
Did you mean a vivid chroot with -updates, -security and -proposed?
Regardless, should -proposed be included as those packages wouldn't be
installed on the devices. Additionally, did your sources.list file also
include deb-src lines? Removing that would reduce the size of the files
in
this is inside an armhf chroot on wily with -updates, -security and
-proposed enabled (note that is not including the overlay PPA indeed,
this would add another few MB):
root@localhost:/# du -hcs /var/lib/apt/lists/
81M /var/lib/apt/lists/
81M total
root@localhost:/# tar czf
It helps because we will never ask for core files from crashes from
packages for which the package origin is unknown. If the apt list is
outdated then the package field in the report will look like this:
Package: coreutils 8.23-3ubuntu1 [origin: unknown]
The code in daisy that asks for core
how doe it help to keep outdated readonly lists around apart from
wasting a lot of space ? this patch must stay, it is pretty useless to
have lists shipped in the readonly images on the phone that were only
generated at build time of the image and never get updated. how about we
make the dir
The debdiff.
** Attachment added: Remove the ubuntu-remove-non-release-lists.patch
completely
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1471903/+attachment/340/+files/remove_pkg_list_patch
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Status: In Progress = Invalid
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Title:
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Adam recommended actually removing the patch altogether, which I agree
would make sense as well. If, of course, no one disapproves by saying
we'll get too fat by including lists for updates, security and proposed
at once - which I suppose shouldn't be a problem.
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@Łukasz - Is somebody reviewing your debdiff?
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I prepared a patch to live-build that basically modified the patch to
not remove -security_ and -updates_ from the apt lists as a proposition.
I think this is a sane idea as, in theory, both security and updates
pockets should generally be pretty empty when we build images and never
actually have
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I think so to, but I'll try to find the rationale for that in history.
If there's no real rational reason for this happening, I'll propose
changing that to only removing *-proposed_*.
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** Also affects: live-build (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: live-build (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Łukasz Zemczak (sil2100)
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@Brian: I need to add the overlay entries to the sources.list. Since
those are visible in apt/lists, but not there. In the same time I'm also
trying to get -security and -updates added to apt/lists correctly.
I'm still learning my way around all this, but I see that in fact it's
live-build that's
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:59:36PM -, Łukasz Zemczak wrote:
@Brian: I need to add the overlay entries to the sources.list. Since
those are visible in apt/lists, but not there. In the same time I'm also
trying to get -security and -updates added to apt/lists correctly.
I'm still learning
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Makes sense, will be working on this shortly. We are also missing an
entry for the overlay-ppa in apt lists for our rc-proposed images.
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Could you elaborate on your last comment regarding the missing entry in
apt lists? Where specifically will you be adding the entry?
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Title:
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This also has the effect of identifying packages in Dependencies (in an
apport report) as being from an unknown origin, even though they are
from the Ubuntu archive. Here's a portion of Dependencies from a crash
report from Ubuntu 15.04:
libcryptsetup4 2:1.6.1-1ubuntu7
libcups2 2.0.2-1ubuntu3.1
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