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I can confirm that this has indeed been fixed in Maverick.
However, I believe the contrast difference is too low.
It is not very noticeable.
The effect is too subtle.
It could be made more obvious/clearer.
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* New upstream version:
- This release is based on 2.30.1
- Expand and collapse folders with +/- in list view
- Rename .desktop files also change their
Can it be fixed for ubuntu 10.04.1 release?
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Can it be fixed for ubuntu 10.04.1 release?
No, it's a new feature and quite some new code and doesn't apply easily
to the lucid version
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This has now been fixed upstream and will be available in the next
Ubuntu release.
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Two years later and we're at Ubuntu 10.04 and this is still an usability
issue.
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Removing from paper cuts. Cody has shown that this is not trivial (it's
a feature).
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Replacing this paper cut within its milestone because it has stagnated.
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Has this idea, perhaps, stagnated?
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I really like Chriki™'s idea , of using the scissors, and the copy
emblem. its a nice touch
@Chriki™ : Pls do a better mockup[for cut and for copy], and post it
here, it is nice idea, and it would be a shame to scarp the idea , just
because people didnt get the idea properly.
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@Chriki™: oh.. another suggestion ,the cut files need to be dimmed since
they will be moved but the copy files dont have to be dimmed, but just
have a copy emblem
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There is one advantage about my idea that I perhaps failed to make
clear enough in my original comment: with different emblems the idea
provides for both cut and copy actions (which is not shown in my
mockup). Also, there are probably already provisions in Nautilus for
handling such emblems; at
When making these decisions, keep in mind that cut files are not
supposed to be there anymore. The dimmed representation is merely a
trace of where the file used to be, not the file itself. I recommend we
do not have a mouseover effect for cut file representations.
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I love the scissor idea, maybe it could be used in combination with the
dimmed effect. I think the mouseover effect is necessary because you
can open the file, move it around, until you paste the file in another
place and least but not last you could simple change idea.
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I do not love the scissor idea, diming files is a good idea to begin, I
think everyone agree with it, but the sissor idea is very heavy for me
and i do not really like it, simpler things are better...
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manzur wrote:
I do not love the scissor idea, diming files is a good idea to begin, I
think everyone agree with it, but the sissor idea is very heavy for me
and i do not really like it, simpler things are better...
I'd recommend making the files semi-transparent, dimming would suggest
Cody Russel wrote:
I find the cut icons very confusing. They exist on different corners of
the icons, and they exist on both dimmed icons and non-dimmed
icons.
Sorry about that. As said, I had just taken David’s mockup. The small
emblems are on different corners to try out different
I find the cut icons very confusing. They exist on different corners of
the icons, and they exist on both dimmed icons and non-dimmed icons.
The only question I have about David's mockup is how prelight/mouseover
affects a dimmed icon. Right now when you mouseover an icon it lightens
up a bit,
Sorry for the mistake in my previous post: I meant David’s mockup, of
course, when writing about the base of my new mockup …
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Another idea could be to add further emblems to the icons of copied/cut
files. In the simplest case this could be the stock icons for copy/cut
(usually a pair of documents/a pair of scissors). I’ve quickly created
another mockup showing this (based on Daniel‘s above – sorry for
hijacking the
I think the mockup looks good.
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While some notification or a panel may be a nice addition, neither of them
fixes the original problem. If files are cut in Nautilus, the visual indication
is needed _exactly there_ because of 2 reasons:
* You may not even see the panel change or notification because it is on the
opposite end of
the change there is probably not trivial and not really a
hundredpapercut change
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Dimming does not seem like an optimal solution - the icons will look as
if they've simply been selected, rather than cut. I think they should
become semi-transparent instead.
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Moved back so Cody can address next week (and week after).
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Mat, please see my mockup and provide feedback if it should be changed.
I don't think the items looks selected.
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seanh, I really like your ideas. Initially we could simply have a
notification that says something like 10 files copied to clipboard or
10 files cut to clipboard. Later, a compiz animation of the ghost
icons that have been cut/copied could fly to a clipboard in the
notification area. The copy and
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:42:32PM -, Richard Ayotte wrote:
seanh, I really like your ideas. Initially we could simply have a
notification that says something like 10 files copied to clipboard or
10 files cut to clipboard. Later, a compiz animation of the ghost
icons that have been
Dimming the icon is better than nothing but I think the problem goes a
little deeper. What do you do if the user copies, rather than cuts,
something? Dim that as well? The dimming doesn't seem to make as much
sense for copying.
I think this thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
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Here's a straightforward mockup of dimmed icons.
* Dimming effect is achieved by setting lightness to 100% on icons and/or
labels.
* Documents folder has dimmed icon, normal label and emblem.
* Templates folder has dimmed icon and emblem, normal label.
* Ubuntu One folder has dimmed icon,
Has anyone recently tried the patch from the Gnome bug?
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2005-June/msg00018.html
It likely won't apply cleanly now, but anyone taking on this issue might
be able to use it as a starting point.
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I do agree this is a needed fix. Very good example of a papercut bug.
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Is this change going to be made for release in 10.04. If it is, could
you also add a feedback when files are copied.
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I agree, this is a usability issue which is in need of a fix. There is
no indication that specific files have been cut from a folder. Upstream
do not see this as an important issue but for people switching from
Windows it is a major issue as the UI could appear unresponsive as it
does not give
2009 this hasn't been fixed
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Thank you for your bug report. That's alright known upstream, you can
read about it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47948
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Thanks, I did not know.
But this has been known on GNOME bugzilla since 2001-03-30.
That is 7 years, they're hopeless. They never fix it. :(
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