[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-06 Thread wontfix
> If it were up to me then the rule would be whether OpenGL is supported in the associated Mesa and kernel drivers Until recently, QEMU/QXL would have been without display drivers by your standard, including LTS releases that will be supported for quite some time still. Given the default targets

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-05 Thread Daniel van Vugt
> There is no rule being followed here in terms of sales or production that has anything to do with actual dates, to be clear. If it were up to me then the rule would be whether OpenGL is supported in the associated Mesa and kernel drivers, for modern desktop support. If you follow that rule then

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-05 Thread wontfix
The Mach chips in terms of server boards were sold well into the late 00's as a competitor to the Matrox(MGA) G200 chips in that space of which were sold until only a few years ago in fairly standard servers. The Matrox G550 came out in 2005 and their PCIe portfolio is still upgraded and sold to

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-05 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Actually most of those are from the 1990's, 25+ years ago. Up to 20 year old hardware is generally fine for Ubuntu providing it's not an Intel GPU. Intel GPUs unfortunately are relatively new and we can only support those up to about 12 years old. 'video-all' is a meta package so it is absolutely

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-05 Thread wontfix
I never said it should be removed, only not a required dependency. Input-all apparently doesn't require all input devices. Mach64, MGA, Savage, Neomagic, 3dfx, Trident, SiliconMotion, and ViA can range around that timeframe and are not required by all. -- You received this bug notification

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-04 Thread Daniel van Vugt
"video-all" means it should install all video drivers. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1956128 Title:

[Bug 1956128] Re: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati

2022-01-04 Thread Daniel van Vugt
And yes we do have Ubuntu users with 20 year old hardware. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1956128 Title: xserver-xorg-video-all requires xserver-xorg-video-ati To manage