[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-08 Thread Ulrich Hobelmann
@Luke, you're probably right, if even a single rm can freeze the system. I guess some data is always being moved around... When the bug is fixed, I'll see if I still get freezes. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-07 Thread Ulrich Hobelmann
This problem definitely IS NOT LIMITED to deletion, as most comments seem to indicate. First I only had it sometimes when emptying my trash (with a few roughly 1GB files), but after a reboot the trash was empty, so it seems that the freeze occurred after syncing the disk / completing the

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-07 Thread DanielV
You are correct. I have this problem when my newsreader program MOVES data from the temporary folder to the download folder. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread Ioannis
I think it also happens when resizing files. For instance I get lockups when running a VM and the disk image changes in size. I don't know why this is marked as 'importance = medium', since it renders the system useless. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread Derek
Perhaps the VM is growing the image by using temp files? I noticed lockup on checking out a clean subversion tree, which should only have involved file creation. Oh well, changing kernels is a decent workaround. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread bcrook
@loannis Probably because ext4 is optional file system. I believe it is noted in Release Notes for Jaunty that ext4 has been calling problems...it's not like people are forced to use it. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread Ioannis
@Derek it probably does create some temporary files in there process, deleting them shortly after. @bcrook good point. That's the price of living on the edge... I'm a bit stuck here. Karmic has not yet decided what to do with the 'restricted' modules (I have an Nvidia gfx), thus I'm left with

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread Carey Underwood
loannis, just install a 2.6.30 kernel. I've been running an rc of 2.6.30 on jaunty for months now with nvidia, works fine. DKMS will take care of the restricted modules as necessary. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-06-02 Thread Ioannis
yes, thanks Carey In my case, I had to apply a patch to the default nvidia 96.43.10 source. There is a patch for the 180.44 driver that you can find here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=131597 I've attached a version made for the 96.43.10 module (actually, I didn't try out the

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-31 Thread stek79
FWIW, on different PCs (desktop and laptop ) where I installed Jaunty + ext4 I'm having these hangs, I can trigger them reliably with the hang.py script... -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-30 Thread Saïvann Carignan
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Karmic) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-30 Thread iamringo
So this is probably not terribly helpful, but I'd like to add that like the person in a duplicate bug (#34312), I also experience lockups seemingly at random (I'll sit down at my computer which has been idle for awhile and find everything frozen and the caps lock key flashing). I'm running Jaunty

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-30 Thread Rocko
@iamringo: I got other frequent random lockups also with the stock kernels (both 2.6.28-11 and -12), possibly related to ext4 (I suspect the mlocate update was causing some). But I've not had a single one in four weeks using the 2.6.30 vanilla kernels and they've been very stable. IMO it's

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-30 Thread iamringo
@Rocko: just switched, and everything seems fine. I can run hang.py w/o a problem, and I've got a hunch there won't be any random freezes anymore. Given this bug report, I've been meaning to switch kernels, but only just got around to itThanks! -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-27 Thread unggnu
@Theodore Ts'o Just run bonnie++. It works for me all the time. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-27 Thread Carey Underwood
I can't duplicate this under karmic's 2.6.30-generic (-4, -5 or -6), I don't think karmic suffers from this issue. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-26 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Sorry for not checking in sooner, I've been swamped with upstream issues with ext4, and this is pretty clearly an Ubuntu specific bug. Maybe later this weekend I'll have time to try to figure out which ones of the Ubuntu-backported patches is responsible for the problem. However, I wanted to

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-26 Thread Jordan
I cannot reproduce the hang with a karmic kernel ( 2.6.30-6-generic ) on the same machine that can easily reproduce it with a Jaunty kernel ( 2.6.28-11-generic ). -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-26 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore Ts'o : No 2.6.30-6-generic kernel does not have this bug, this is only in jaunty. BTW, did you look my last comment, I was giving you the information you needed concerning which commits cause this bug. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-14 Thread getaceres
It's not related to gvfs because I'm having it in KDE too. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-13 Thread PsychedEric
Maybe I am wrong : so take it just as a suggestion, Maybe the bug is in gvfs or Maybe it is a conflict between gvfs and ext4 -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-08 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore Ts'o : As I'm not a expert with git, my previous results were wrong because I tested the master branch of git://github.com/tytso/ext4.git instead of the ubuntu-330824-test branch (shame on me). So I cloned your current git repository, checkout to branch ubuntu-330824-test, then checkout

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-08 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore Ts'o : I found that there is not 10 but 9 ubuntu SAUCE commits in your branch. commit 18fde579ee7e5895a802e9e04a38c26f4c0ed351 is the one I identified being the bad one earlier. For each 8 others, I built the kernel with the specific SAUCE patch reverted and tested if the bug was

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-07 Thread unggnu
I can confirm this. The easiest way to reproduce it is to run bonnie++ without options on an ext4 device. It freezes the system every time for me on a laptop and in a virtual machine. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-05 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Saïvann, Thanks for your willingness to work on this. However the good news is that I'm ready to take a lot more time on this. If it requires me to git bisect again the whole jaunty kernel and to apply commit dbf8b1c4 each time I test one commit, I'm ready to do it. If you can only guide me

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-05 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore Ts'o : That's excellent, I'm going to start bisecting today. Thanks! -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Aurius Bendikas
Also installed http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel- ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc4/. No freezes so far. At last I can work with my workstation. @Derek - THANK YOU for the post! -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread pritam ghanghas
Just increasing the counter of people affected. I have faced system freeze 4 times since I upgraded my file system to ext4. luckily my / fs is not on ext4. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread _dan_
This issue is *not* fixed in current jaunty. Deleting files will not freeze your machine at once or so often anymore. But it still happens once a day approximately 1-3 seconds after the deleting is done, system just freezes. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 01:32:13PM -, _dan_ wrote: This issue is *not* fixed in current jaunty. No, it is not fixed in Jaunty, as the status of the bug indicates. In Progress means that someone is working on the bug, but it is not yet fixed. Fortunately, it looks like we now have a very

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Pauli Virtanen
@Tim Gardner on 2009-04-30: @Derek - that patch is already in Jaunty. static void ext4_mb_add_n_trim(struct ext4_allocation_context *ac) ... list_for_each_entry_rcu(tmp_pa, lg-lg_prealloc_list[order], pa_inode_list) {

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Carey Underwood
** Description changed: + [ + Please read *all* previous comments before posting. + + Mainline kernels are known to not experience this bug, although in + general are not supported (i.e., using one is a workaround, but if they + break other things you're generally out of luck). + + Additional

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Tim Gardner
@Ted - Pauli's observation is correct. I was comparing Jaunty against 2.6.28.9 fs/ext4/mballoc.c. They are indeed the same wrt the code in ext4_mb_add_n_trim(). However, Linus' tree has commit e7c9e3e99adf6c49c5d593a51375916acc039d1e which was Cc sta...@kernel.org, and corrects the spin_unlock()

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Tim Gardner
Test kernels in http:/kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/2.6.28-13.44-lp330824 contain stable updates through 2.6.28.10 as well as the aforementioned missing commit e7c9e3e99adf6c49c5d593a51375916acc039d1e from Linus' tree. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
@Tim: I would be delighted if commit e7c9e3e9 fixes this bug. However, this fix was added after 2.6.29 was released (it was pushed to Linus between during the 2.6.29..2.6.29-rc1 merge window), and Ubuntu users have reported that using the 2.6.29 stock kernel was enough to avoid the rm -rf hang

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Saïvann Carignan
The bug can be reproduced with Tim Gardner test kernels http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/2.6.28-13.44-lp330824 -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Carey Underwood
@Tim, Theo: 2.6.28-13.44 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/2.6.28-13.44-lp330824 hung partway through boot with BUG: soft locking - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [rmdir:] -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Saïvann, Thank you very much for doing the bisect and confirming Carey's results. The problem with this is that the commit that you figured as causing the problem, dbf8b1c4, is identical to commit 82eb4869, which appeared in 2.6.28.7, and commit 920313a7, which appeared in 2.6.29-rc1, and so was

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Nick B.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Confirming the 2.6.28-13.44 kernel from Tim Gardner still has the problem. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Eric Shattow
Confirm that 2.6.28-11.42 had the problem. I was able to reproduce the issue 5 or more times by issuing 'rm -fr dirname' on an 80gb directory hierarchy of files up to 5gb each. The system soft locked just like the reported bug symptoms. Booting 2.6.30-020630rc4 resolves the issue for me and 'rm

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-03 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore : I built and tested your branch : git://github.com/tytso/ext4.git and the bad news is : no crash. I was able to delete my whole filesystem and the problem was not reproducible when it always takes 2 seconds for the bug to appear. However the good news is that I'm ready to take a lot

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-02 Thread Saïvann Carignan
According to last Theodore Ts'o comment, I am bisecting ubuntu-jaunty git branch and the result so far are very positive. If everything goes well, I will be able to reveal exactly which commit caused the bug in a few. 65 commit left to test. 4 good commits identified, 2 bad commits identified. The

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-02 Thread Saïvann Carignan
My git bisect is finished and revealed that commit dbf8b1c4e8122e705447b69aea9ee6ef3a9caa30 is the faulty one, confirming Carey Underwood previous results. Bisect log attached and commit diff attached. Trying to revert that whole patch in current jaunty kernel makes it FTBFS so I could not test

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-02 Thread Saïvann Carignan
** Attachment added: dbf8b1c4e8122e705447b69aea9ee6ef3a9caa30 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26269859/dbf8b1c4e8122e705447b69aea9ee6ef3a9caa30 -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-01 Thread Derek
I've switched to: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc4/ (and previously rc3) So far, so good, on both machines using ext4, despite still plenty of rm -rf. here's hoping... -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-05-01 Thread Geoff123
I also just triggered a crash using the hang.py script from this forum. I just just switched to ext4 and had to try. I have two observations someone might find useful. 1) Running as normal user. Ran hang.py and it locked up on the 5th round. I had to push the reset button. Note that

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-30 Thread Christian Kirbach
I think I am bitten by this, too, on AMD64, with a root fs converted from ext3 to ext4 using tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/DEV linux-image-2. 2.6.28-11.42 I have not found a way yet to trigger, rm -rf on ten thousand files once did not. On an irregular basis I can see any app

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-30 Thread Phil-S
Just found this report after a number of forced reboots, Chiming in with another verification. Running Stock Jaunty: 2.6.28-11-generic (bui...@palmer) (gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 Have a 3TB 4-drive software RAID-5 array with EXT4.

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-30 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Phil, The only suggestion I can make at this point is to use a mainline kernel. This seems to be some kind of interaction between Ubuntu Sauce patches and the ext4 code. People have reported success with stock 2.6.28, stock 2.6.29 and a bleeding-edge 2.6.30-rcX kernels. There have been attempts

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-30 Thread Derek
A bit more info on my circumstance. 1) I triggered the lockup at one point by running Evolution - no idea what it was doing in the background 2) I was trying to figure out why subversion was giving me an assertion on a particular samba mounted file:// repo. (this has been going on for a while,

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-29 Thread Gytis Raciukaitis
I can always get a lock with Back-In-Time (http://backintime.le- web.org/), which uses rsync. If try to to backup my home dir (ext4 formatted) to another drive (ext4 formated) during the initial snapshot generation it locks up everytime. I'm using jaunty with 2.6.28-11-generic. -- Soft lockups

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-29 Thread Jean-Philippe Fleury
I have this bug too after I've updated from Ubuntu 8.10 to Ubuntu 9.04. Here are more info: - I have relatively small filesystems (30 GB and 80 GB), converted by hand to ext4 - My kernel version is Linux 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux - I have an

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-29 Thread Derek
Hey guys. Just wondering. This recent ext4 fix looks hopeful (typo correction). http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/19495/ Found while been browsing for potential fixes in ext4. Does anyone know if it is in a Jaunty backport? -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-29 Thread Tim Gardner
@Derek - that patch is already in Jaunty. static void ext4_mb_add_n_trim(struct ext4_allocation_context *ac) ... list_for_each_entry_rcu(tmp_pa, lg-lg_prealloc_list[order], pa_inode_list) { spin_lock(tmp_pa-pa_lock);

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-28 Thread Derek
Repeatedly triggered trying an rm -rf of a subversion tree. Intel driver. I guess I'll subscribe and await developments. A workaround for me was to do following: find ~/svn/trunk -type f | while read f;do rm -f $f;sleep .1;done find ~/svn/trunk -depth -type d | while read d;do rmdir $d;sleep

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-28 Thread moli
this bug works with final jaunty 2.6.28-11-generic on an amd athlon, installed hardy which was updated by hand to intrepid which updated to jaunty, with no gnome nor x server. ext3 filesystem converted to ext4 by hand, 250gb pata hdd one partition, no swap. i can reproduce this bug any time with

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-28 Thread moli
to be accurate replace 'file' to 'directory', sorry. i would like to delete more than 13 files because i copied all my data within the hdd to use extents -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Rocko
I got a kernel panic just now (ie the PC froze completely) and managed to capture a whole bunch of general protection faults and the panic with netconsole. The PC actually froze when I opened a new tab in Firefox rather than when I went to delete a number of files, but there are a number of ext4

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Rocko, Thanks for your kernel panic log. This doesn't prove anything, but 14 seconds before the oops involving ext4_delete_inode, there was a recursive fault in the X server, which was apparently running the Nvidia proproietary driver. So I hate to ask this but (a) how many other people who

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Andrius Štikonas
I don't use proprietary software on my system, so Nvidia driver shouldn't cause this lockup. Maybe it can trigger it like rm -rf but not cause it. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread yaztromo
I can trigger the bug without X running, my card is also an ATI running the driver provided by Xorg -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Saïvann Carignan
I reproduced this bug on 3 computers, running nvidia, intel (proprietary) and ati (OpenSource) cards. I also reproduced this bug in the recovery-mode without X started, so definitively not related to Xorg. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Nick B.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use the Nvidia binary driver however I've been able to reproduce this from a console without X even running. I logged in from a console, shut down X, then ran hang.py and it froze after about 3 rounds, that's when I saw the soft lockup on cpu0

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-25 Thread Carey Underwood
Can reliably trigger this on nvidia, nv and vesa. Theo, did you get my e2image attached above? -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu Karmic) Importance: Medium Assignee: Tim Gardner (timg-tpi) Status: In Progress -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-23 Thread Rocko
I reproduced this bug (kernel panic, total freeze) this morning by doing *two* simultaneous rm -rf commands on folders created by copying /bin /lib /boot /etc /lib64 /root /srv /usr /opt /sbin /var into two backup folders on another ext4 partition. I had netconsole running on another computer,

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-20 Thread Carey Underwood
Alessandro, please make a point of reading all the comments on a bug before adding your own. :) -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-19 Thread Alessandro Rinaldi
It happened really often to me with 2.6.28.x kernel, and now it doesn't happen at all (tried everything to reproduce, but I couldn't) with a 2.6.29-1 kernel, and also the 2.6.29 kernel is ok. So we should just find the right patch that fixed it and apply to the current kernel. -- Soft lockups

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-18 Thread Carey Underwood
@Theo That was easy :p I've got a 2.5GB ext4 image which reproduced the issue when mounted on /mnt/test. Attached is the e2image output produced immediately before deleting the files. The hang itself occurred part way into writing the files during the next cycle (as it usually does). **

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-18 Thread Andrius Štikonas
I plugged my hard drive to another computer with 6GB RAM (instead of 640MB) and was not able to reproduce this bug at all neither with my usual methods nor with hang.py. I can always easilly reproduce the bug on 640MB machine in a few seconds. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
As an idea; for people who can reproduce it easily, preferably one of you who have been doing this on a relatively small (20-40GB filesystem), maybe you would be willing to do the following? (a) Load up the filesystem with the test set of files that, when deleted, will product the hang. (b)

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-17 Thread Carey Underwood
@Theo, I originally experienced the crash on an external drive (i.e., not the root fs). I'm going to try to reproduce it on a small loop image. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-17 Thread Justin Myers
So it's still being worked on then? Not to be critical, but isn't this a bug that's been known for months? -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-17 Thread Carey Underwood
So it's still being worked on then? Not to be critical, but isn't this a bug that's been known for months? Yes, the status is still In progress. Note that the mainline kernel's don't seem to be exhibiting this issue (or at least orders of magnitude less often), so installing a 2.6.29 kernel

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Langasek
Documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes #Lock-ups when deleting files from ext4 filesystems: In some cases, deleting files from an ext4 filesystem is reported to cause soft lock-ups in the kernel. Investigation of this problem is ongoing, and it is expected that a fix

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-16 Thread Justin Myers
Steve Langasek 18 hours ago ubuntu-release-notes status:New → Fix Released That's funny, because it was just about 18 hours ago now that this bug made itself apparent to me. I actually had ubuntu freeze when i tried a disk cleaning utility (it didn't occur to me that it froze because

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-16 Thread Sarah Hobbs
That would be because ubuntu-release-notes is not Ubuntu. It *just* refers to the release notes. As Steve said, they are located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Lock-ups. This issue has been documented in the release notes, and thus, the fix for the release notes has

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 23:35 +, Carey Underwood wrote: The existence of this bug should be noted in the release notes under known issues as well as in the feature summary for Ext4 filesystem support. So basically, the fact that ext4 simply does not work in Ubuntu Jaunty should be in the

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 11:46 +, Carey Underwood wrote: Because it's still being investigated, and 9.04 isn't actually released yet. There's a perfectly good chance that the culprit is nailed down and fixed before release, and if it can't, then simply removing it from the final release

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Carey Underwood
Because it's still being investigated, and 9.04 isn't actually released yet. There's a perfectly good chance that the culprit is nailed down and fixed before release, and if it can't, then simply removing it from the final release notes and installer would suffice. -- Soft lockups (freezes)

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
I'll note that part of the problem is that it doesn't seem to be trivially reproducible even on Ubuntu Jaunty. I was having lunch with a number of Ubuntu kernel developers at the Linux Foundation Collaboration summit, and I talked to them specifically about this bug --- a number of them indicated

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Theodore Ts'o : I noticed that this bug is more likely to happen on partitions that does not have many space left, in case that this give you some hint. I have a 30 Gb partition which has only 3 Gb left. The bug can be reproduced immediately each time on that partition. I have a 700 Gb partition

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
@Saivann, Thanks, that's a really good tip. I'll see if I can reproduce on a mostly full filesystem. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
One other question --- for the people that have managed to reproduce, do you know if there was any files getting created or otherwise blocks getting allocated on the filesystem under test, or is an rm -rf of some hierarchy in the filesystem sufficient on its own to cause the system to hang? --

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 13:42 +, Theodore Ts'o wrote: I'll note that part of the problem is that it doesn't seem to be trivially reproducible even on Ubuntu Jaunty. It seems to reproduce here when two processes are removing files/trees from the same filesystem. And as another comment

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Nick B.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saïvann Carignan wrote: Theodore Ts'o : I noticed that this bug is more likely to happen on partitions that does not have many space left, in case that this give you some hint. I have a 30 Gb partition which has only 3 Gb left. The bug can be

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread yaztromo
@Theodore - At every hang I was only deleting files, no other activity was happening. A simple rm -rf on lot of small files or some big files would do the trick. I have two systems here running Jaunty, the slowest (Athlon 1000Mhz) can reproduce the bug very easily. Yet I have to try multiple

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread yaztromo
Also to add, I can't confirm Saïvann Carignan's experience that it happens on mostly full filesystems, since I have 150gb free on a 500gb partition and can reproduce easily. I feel personally that this is massive showstopper for ext4 and shouldn't be an option in the final release of jaunty. I

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Tim Gardner
@Ted - Saivann may have a point about a nearly full file system. Perhaps one of the reasons I've not experienced any issues is that all of my ext4 file systems are quite large (1.8T in one case) with relatively low space utilization ( 5%). I continue to use ext4 on a kernel build server (4 spindle

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
@yaztromo, Well, the slowest machine I have is an netbook with an Atom N270 1.6GHz processor with 1.5gigs of memory (Hmm, I wonder if amount of memory has any significance; are people who can reproduce easily doing so with an especially large or small amounts of memory?) and a 5400 rpm drive.

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread David Bowles
Just wanted to register myself as another user experiencing this bug and give some details on the conditions under which I have been able to reproduce it as they do not exactly correlate with some of the comments above. Latest kernel in repository - 2.6.28.11.14 4.5TB ext4 partition on top of a

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 17:46 +, Theodore Ts'o wrote: are people who can reproduce easily doing so with an especially large or small amounts of memory? MemTotal: 2851296 kB MemFree:164428 kB Buffers:469320 kB Cached: 609504 kB SwapCached: 1780 kB Active:

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Leon Nardella
@Theodore Ts'o I can consistently reproduce this bug on my Acer Aspire One AOA150, which also has an Atom N270 plus 1GB of RAM and a 120GB SATA HD. It happens even on a clean install of Jaunty, as well as on a fully updated install, with more than 100GB of HD free. I can reliably trigger this

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Nick B.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theodore Ts'o wrote: @yaztromo, Well, the slowest machine I have is an netbook with an Atom N270 1.6GHz processor with 1.5gigs of memory (Hmm, I wonder if amount of memory has any significance; are people who can reproduce easily doing so with an

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread David Bowles
@Theodore I can reproduce the bug on a 1.6Ghz Via with 2GB of memory. The partition is on a 4 drive SATA II 7200rpm RAID 5 array. This box is running at a console level only. I do not have Gnome or any other applications, even Apache or MySQL installed. When the problem occurs for me, I have no

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Saïvann Carignan
I also confirm the small memory hypothesis. It's easier to reproduce the bug on two computers which have respectively ~700Mb and 1024Mb of Ram, but much more difficult to reproduce with my other computer that has 2048 Mb (and large amount of free space). Might or might not be related. -- Soft

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Andrius Štikonas
I have 640 MB ant svn up, on KDE repository core modules is enough to lockup. So lockup happens quite easily. -- Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330824 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Wade Menard
Just to throw a wrench in, I have 8 GB of RAM and my volume is currently 52% full at 287 GB/583 GB. It's interesting that from my count we have two people that haven't reproduced it yet with the ~lp348836 kernel and two that have. Certainly something else going on here. Still going strong with

[Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
For those who are following along, the latest Ubuntu kernel (with a custom config which I can include if anyone is interested) is blowing up in early boot, in what looks like SATA/SCSI stack on my Lenovo S10. Standard stock 2.6.28, 2.6.29 and 2.6.30-rc2 works just fine on the Lenovo S10, using

Re: [Bug 330824] Re: Soft lockups (freezes) when deleting files from ext4 partitions on 2.6.28

2009-04-15 Thread Carey Underwood
2.5GB of memory, fairly high disk used (~85%), I can reproduce nearly at will. The bisect I performed above may have only found a patch that makes things significantly worse: when running a kernel from the 'good' side of the bisect I still get occasional lockups (on the order of 2-4 days),

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