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* src/update.c:
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to be started, the log rotation updates that one which means it's
the update resolves the described issue, setting as verified
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* src/update.c:
don't use the logs ctime information to decide if update-manager needs
to be started, the log rotation updates that one which means it's
never
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(not a security bug; it only impacts notification about non-security
updates.)
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** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu)
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Accepted update-notifier into xenial-proposed. The package will build
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notifier/3.168.1 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.
Please help us by testing this new package. See
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+ * Impact
+ update-manager is not auto-spawned to show you updates
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+ * Test case
+ on a xenial update don't start update-manager nor install/remove packages by
other ways for a week, update-manager should be autostarted at login
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+ * Regression potential
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This is more prevalent in 16.04 now that we are auto-installing security
updates and [GNOME|Ubuntu] Software is handling application updates.
Looks like the code is using the log rotation dates as an indication of
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if you turn off automatic installation of security updates, do you then
start being notified of security+non-security updates? = Yes, I'am
notified of security and non-security updates.
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Hello Matthew Paul Thomas. Thanks for your answer.
If I turn off automatic installation of security updates, I will be notified
immediatly of security updates, and other updates will be notified at the same
time (default behaviour of update manager). I don't know if it's possible to
turn off
This bug report was closed without explanation, branch link, or package
changelog, so I think that was a mistake.
ubuntu-tester, if you turn off automatic installation of security
updates, do you then start being notified of security+non-security
updates? If so, you have indeed identified a logic
Hello,
The status of this bug report is Fix released but I still have this
issue on Ubuntu 14.04 :
$ update-notifier --debug-updates
(update-notifier:9358): update-DEBUG: update_check()
(update-notifier:9358): update-DEBUG: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
returned 1 (security: 0)
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Is this update-notifier existing in Debian Lenny?!
Yes, it does: http://packages.debian.org/stable/gnome/update-notifier
However you have to setup the cron job manually as described on the above page.
I i.e. have set up 'cron-apt' on my NAS with Lenny and configured exim4
(default MTA) to send
To be honest, I have to correct one statement:
the Installer of the alternate-CD does not offer a true root-account by
default, but only when you select the expert mode with F6 - but that
is the main reason to use the alternate-CD. Nevertheless it's a Ubuntu-
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This is just a comment:
In Debian-Squeeze all works out of the box. Also separate root-account,
group admin does not exist at all, user running update-notifier does
not need to be (and is not by default) member of groups adm nor
sudo.
Conclusion:
Lucid's alternate-CD has been made a very frowsy
I just reinstalled 'update-manager-common' and 'update-manager' and
executed:
/usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available --force
16 Softwarepakete können aktualisiert werden.
0 Aktualisierungen sind Sicherheitsaktualisierungen.
This information is also
root cause found!
workaround found!
It is a permission problem when you have installed from alternate-CD!
Checking /usr/share/doc/update-notifier/README gave me the deciding
hint: gksu is required. It is installed of course, but:
With alternate-CD you normally get a true root-account, which is
It's not a real patch, rather a dirty workaround.
Pleas assign the bug to whom it concerns.
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Is this really correct:
ls -l /var/lib/apt/periodic
insgesamt 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-08-16 11:02 update-stamp
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-10-31 21:34 update-success-stamp
# cat /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily
20101122
So cron.daily has been run, and of course no updates applied.
Both
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And here the prove:
I just booted up Lucid (3 weeks not started) and did wait for 2 hours
- nothing happened.
I executed 'apt-get update', waiting another hour, then 'apt-get
upgrade' gave this output:
.
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert: ## translation: following packages
will be
Is this issue no longer followed up for Lucid?
I am considering to install cron-apt and configure postfix to send me
e-mail via my externmal mail-account when updates are availablel. This
is a proven way (for Debian) on my NAS. I really cannot accept the
uncertainty with secuity updates
*** security concern ***
I did now check on an up-to-date Lucid installation, which had no
updates (not booted) since 2 weeks. Definitely there are several
security updates pending (I did install them on my working PC with 'apt-
get update apt-get upgrade). These are the recent security updates
Same here with Lucid-amd64 and NBR.
Just a guess from me:
I have configured a true root-account and the 1st user is not listed in
/etc/sudoers (this is default when installing from alternate CD).
Probably update-manager does not get launched, because user does not
have proper permissions?
Quick note from me:
uname -a: Linux 2.6.35-22-server #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 22:02:33 UTC
2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Since the upgrade to 10.10, update-notifier has begun to work (I get
infrequent prompts to d/l updates as compared to nothing with 10.04).
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I personally have installed Lucid since 4 months on 2 machines and since
then NEVER seen any update notification or any pop-up. apt-get update
seems to be run regularly, but also if security updates are pending I
don't get any notification.
My personal solution is to run 'apt-get upgrade' from
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** Tags removed: issue
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I'm willing to try debugging this, but any ideas on what I should look
at? Here were some places I started with (based on the earlier posts in
this thread).
I'm using 10.04, and when I run update-manager manually, it lists a
whole bunch of updates - it just never pops up (nor do I see any tray
I'm also confused because of the update-notifier's behavior. I changed
the regular_auto_launch_interval to 0 (comment #53) and will see if it
changes the behavior to what I would expect by default. But at least
this option should be part of the GUI and not hidden somewhere in the
gconf-editor.
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I tried all the setups suggested but I still can't get any notification
of pending updates
* with auto-launch = no and regular_auto_launch_interval 0
auto.pl
8 normal updates, 6 security updates available
interval_days from gconf: 0
Autolaunch disabled because
Hmm. With security updates available, it ought to
show you the window... (maybe there's a 1 day interval
for those? Time to look at the code again.)
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I'm having the same problem on 2 installs of 10.04, and my 9.04 settings
match those on the 10.04 OS, but the 9.04 system produces notifications
daily if they exist.
How about a FIX as I'm getting tired of work arounds.
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dORSY,
I don't remember posting a work-around or a fix. I recall replying to
Adam Seitz's post because reading it gave me the impression that he
might benefit having access to additional configuration options that he
might not have known about; I then listed two options that I though he
CyrusCT,
I don't remember posting a work-around or a fix.
At least it made my notifier showing another package manager is working. I
have had no updates since the configuration options set, so I don't know if the
available updates will be shown.
And thank You again, to inform us about the
CyrusCT and dORSY,
The settings Cyrus gave me worked like a charm. I now get update
notifications on the tray icon as I did with my previous version of the
Ubuntu Desktop product. It notifies for any pending updates.
I do realize this not a fix. It is merely a work-around for a
problem that
Hello!
hit alt + f2 then type gconf-editor...
This is a _workaround_. It won't fix the initial problem.
We do not except this when we set the updates in our update-manager. It
_is_confusing_. It will search for updates every day, but we _do_not_ get the
notification of them. Then why to
I have been running my updates manually everyday because my update
notifier does not notify me. I am not a savvy Linux user. I am using
Ubuntu because it makes this kind of thing easier for me. I would expect
an updater to notify me of updates (daily as I have set it to)
regardless of whether I
Adam,
You may want to try using gconf-editor to change the settings for
update-notifier because it provides some additional options.
You can get there as follows:
hit alt + f2 then type gconf-editor and click [run].
then, on the left, navigate to /apps/update-notifier.
Now
Thanks! That should do it! :)
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It is affecting me too.
When I killall update-notifier then start a new one, the notification aera
blinks once, but no icon or anything appears. Hope this helps:
./auto.pl
4 normal updates, 0 security updates available
interval_days from gconf: 7
last_launch from gconf: 1270623944, Wed Apr 7
The line
Autolaunch disabled. There has already been an update within the
last 7 days (1270624168,ctime /var/log/apt/term.log)
means you did a manual update. This inhibits automatic updates for a week.
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1 week
The line
Autolaunch disabled. There has already been an update within the
last 7 days (1270624168,ctime /var/log/apt/term.log)
means you did a manual update. This inhibits automatic updates for a week
It's back now again in Lucid but then again I have over 100 sources.
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Are you sure your sources are enabled? Upgrading Ubuntu disables all
the third-party repos...
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Is this what you wanted to see?
i...@ian-ubuntu:~$ perl auto.pl
0 normal updates, 0 security updates available
interval_days from gconf: 7
last_launch from gconf: 1258397069, Mon Nov 16 18:44:29 2009
mtime from /var/log/dpkg.log: 1258222076 Sat Nov 14 18:07:56 2009
ctime from /var/log/dpkg.log:
Please ignore as the problem does appear to be fixed.
Apologies for error.
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I updated to Karmic from Jaunty but my update icon shows an error exclamation
makr and even after running update shows 17 days since I last updated.
The attachment shows what happened when I ran the two Termical entries
suggested at thwe top of the bug report.
Should I post this separately?
Can you run the perl script from comment #27 and attach its output?
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I am a relative novice so please forgive any misunderstanding.
I copied the patch file to terminal and obtained the attached output but
it looks like gibberish so I think I do not know how to run the patch
properly.
If I have done it incorrectly, please tell me how!
Regards
Ian
** Attachment
I realised that I tried to run the patch in #26 not the script in #27
but unfortunately same ignorance applies and I do not know how to run
the script properly.
advice for novice please!!
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should do it.
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Ubuntu Karmic Beta updated to update-notifier 0.90, but I'm still not
seeing the icon for available updates or for A package manager is
working.
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Dan,
It sounds like you are describing Window List 2.28.0. If that is the
case, then it would be update-manager 1:0.126 that appears in the Window
List after a week of neglecting packages.
Seperately, update-notifier 0.89 should place an icon in a different
place (Notification Area 2.28.0),
I'm running Karmic Beta and got the update to 0.89 today.
After updating to 0.89, I waited for the next set up updates (checking manually
with Synaptic).
This used to cause update-notifier to indicate that updates are available, but
still no icon showing.
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From my understanding, the lack of an icon is a feature, not a bug.
The user will see the update-notifier appear in the, um, dock or whatever it's
called.
That's bigger than an icon.
(BTW I think manual checks with synaptic will also reset the seven-day
clock...)
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Dan,
I know what a dock is in Mac OS, and there are several applications that
can simulate that for Ubuntu, none of which would be running on an out
of the box installation. Did you mean to indicate, as a group, the
notifications/pop-ups with white text on a black background that are
seen such
No, I mean the standard Gnome Panel on the bottom of the screen
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome-panel ), where running programs show
up. It's persistant, and I think sufficient. I seem to recall that
Jaunty does let me know very nicely if a system restart is needed.
Perhaps it's not the
I now have 0.88. I tried with faketime 10 days and then update-manager
pops up. Still no icon though. Then it crashes but it's probably
something else (alpha release).
I add the console output of a run with faketime in case anyone is
interested.
** Attachment added: update_notifier.txt
I've upgraded to karmic now. Still no icons that let's me know I have
available updates...
$ apt-cache policy update-notifier
update-notifier:
Installed: 0.87
Candidate: 0.87
Version table:
*** 0.87 0
500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100
I installed these Jaunty packages but they seem to crash.
th...@thomas-desktop:~$ update-notifier --debug-updates
(update-notifier:4091): update-DEBUG: update_check()
** (update-notifier:4091): DEBUG: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check returned 5
(security: 0)
(update-notifier:4091):
Thanks a lot for figuring out this problem with logrotate. I fixed it in
karmic and uploaded a jaunty fix to my PPA.
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I see from /etc/logrotate.d/{apt,dpkg} that the logs are rotated monthly,
so the log rotation bug only prevents updates one week out of four.
Still worth fixing.
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Here's a little perl script that tries to match exactly update-notifiers logic
(from the one used in Karmic, I think,
http://update-notifier.sourcearchive.com/documentation/0.78/update_8c-source.html
)
It prints out why update manager's not going to be launched.
I'll try to improve that to
Running that perl script showed that update notifier is
probably getting confused by log rotation!
It's telling me that it won't run update manager
because /var/log/dpkg.log is too new... even when
the darn file is only new because the log was rotated and is zero size.
I'm attaching a (bad)
May be a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/299360
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I'd like to have a script I can send to people complaining of autoupdate
failure to gather the information needed to diagnose the problem.
Here's a first draft.
Along with generic update-notifier and update-manager information,
it checks for the two problems I've seen personally:
wrong permissions
Please ignore my comment about the wasted day. I think update-manager
already waits properly.
The /etc/cron.daily/apt permissions problem is the real issue, I think.
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I'm seeing this, too. The system in question was upgraded from an
earlier version of ubuntu to 9.04.
Update Manager says Your system is up to date. The package
information was last updated 25 days ago. (!)
$ ls -l /var/lib/apt/periodic
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-04-22 19:53
I did
sudo chmod 755 /etc/cron.daily/apt
sudo rm /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily
rebooted, and logged in. Five minutes later,
cron.daily ran. Five minutes after that, update
manager popped up in the task bar and offered
a huge pile of updates... but after it finished,
it still said The
Hmm. /etc/cron.daily/apt will sleep for up to 1800 seconds (30 minutes),
so it looks like there's a one-day lag built into the system.
On the first day, /etc/cron.daily/apt updates the list of packages;
on the next day, update-manager uses the updated list.
Maybe we could get rid of that wasted
I had two local problems: Machine #1 had jaunty-updates and jaunty-
security unchecked in Software Sources, Machine #2 had for some reason
file perm 644 on /etc/cron.daily/apt (should be 755).
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I have this on two Jaunty machines. One does apt-get update but doesn't
show any updates, the other doesn't do anything. Both are set to daily /
download in background.
Two different bugs?
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I think you're right Thomas because in my case, apt-get update is run
every day, it is just the update-notifier icon that doesn't appear
anymore in the systray
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My system has the same behaviour of it was described by the guys.
(update-notifier:11822): update-DEBUG: update_check()
** (update-notifier:11822): DEBUG: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check returned
0 (security: 0)
** (update-notifier:11822): DEBUG: crashreport_check
...and the notifications
Before I do any test, I would be sure to understand the logic behind the
automatic notification: my settings say check for updates: daily and
notify the availability of new updates; what I understand is that the
system should make a 'apt-get update' every day (and it seems to work)
and if there at
@Mario
The system will make a apt-get update every day. If there is a security
update it will auto-open
update-manager on login. If there is no security update it will do nothing. If
no updates have been
applied for 7 days (or more) it will auto-open update-manager if updates are
pending.
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Wait, so after 7 days, it actually opens the update-manager itself, and
not just shows a notification icon in the panel, even if I'm already
logged in, or just if I log out and back in again? How does this play
with embedded systems? In my case, I have multiple Ubuntu boxes running
MythTV -- I'd
David, no, the window does not appear frontmost if anything else is
open, and that's not relevant to this bug report anyway. If you're using
VNC to apply updates manually you should set Update Manager to not check
automatically.
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Thank you for the clarification: if this is the intended behavior I'm
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Thanks,
Mario
Michael Vogt wrote:
@Mario
The system will make a apt-get update every day. If there is a security
update it will auto-open
The text in software-properties is misleading, that is obviously bad. If you
think the auto launching is not working, you can test it with (in a terminal):
$ NO_FAKE_STAT=1 faketime '10 days' update-notifier
(you will need the faketime package for this to work).
You need to reset the launch
Output of update-notifier --debug-updates
osi...@osiris:~$ update-notifier --debug-updates
(update-notifier:21316): update-DEBUG: update_check()
** (update-notifier:21316): DEBUG: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check returned
160 (security: 0)
(update-notifier:21316): update-DEBUG:
After upgrading to Jaunty, update notifier icon is never shown in the systray.
ps -A shows that the update-notifier is running.
The auto update check is run every day.
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It's the same for me. Since I've installed a fresh Jaunty Beta (6-7 days
ago) I've never seen the update notification icon in the sys-tray. The
settings say that it should check every day. A couple of times, after
3-4 days, I've checked the update status and I've found hundred of MBs
of packages
Since Add/Remove is currently incapable of installing updates, and
therefore using Add/Remove doesn't mean you've decided to defer updates,
it would be nice to exclude use of Add/Remove from resetting the 7-day
timer.
Since installing or uninstalling applications is not usually a frequent
task,
So you seem to be saying that I installed something from Add/Remove and
that reset the 7 day clock, and therefore I didn't get any notification
about updates. Is that right?
If so, I think there is more to this than that. I very well could be
wrong, but I don't *think* I installed anything.
Thanks for reply. I agree with that, while the old system with the
notification item was not ideal it was at least simple :)
The new way has some magic in it, its hard to know if its not working at
all or if something reset the timer. Unfortunately its too late to fix
#351484 because that
Thanks for your bugreport.
Could you please open a terminal and run:
$ ps ax|grep update-notifier
and then
$ killall update-notifier ; update-notifier --debug-updates
and attach the output of the commands?
** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = High
** Changed in:
Unfortunately this morning I forced an update (still hadn't seen any
automatic notification). But for completeness...
j...@randolph:~$ ps ax | grep update-not
3427 ?S 0:00 update-notifier --startup-delay=60
j...@randolph:~$ killall update-notifier ; update-notifier --debug-updates
** Attachment added: term.log.1.gz
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24967727/term.log.1.gz
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Thanks for the logs, I had a closer look at them now.
The log have dpkg runs at:
Log started: 2009-03-09 09:40:45
Log started: 2009-03-11 12:18:38
Log started: 2009-03-11 12:21:16
Log started: 2009-03-11 12:22:02
Log started: 2009-03-14 11:24:26
Log started: 2009-03-16 14:48:30
Log started:
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