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hehehe...well i am no stranger to this bug tracker :) i have a few
patches (i think around 5+) in the ubuntu system although probably not
in the latest versions any more. in most cases my debdiff leads to the
final patch.
I try to help every now and then. first off, it does not make
Thanks for answer. I wonder why you're helping us without having direct benefit.
I decided to install your package (not that your authentication convinced me,
but since it's year my 5+1 is not working in great Ubuntu, I'm in mood to
kill). I am afraid, I will not help you with support, because I
:
I do benefit, as actually I fixed the bug for myself as well. ;)
Truthfully other people found the SIMD bug and I just packaged the fix.
Sorry, I'm not sure what to do about your other problem.
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xtknight, you did a lot of work here. thanks. but, who are you? are you
pulseaudio developer? i really do not understand why we all write here almost
one year and yet still we have only fuzzy answers.
shouldn't we write to some pulseaudio forums?
yet i did not try xtknight's repo, i'm little
I can confirm that xtknight's patch does indeed fix the problem for me.
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Problem is much worse again with the newest updates (could have been the
kernel update). I had gotten mine working relatively well as long as I
didn't adjust the front/back or sub settings, now if I adjust the
volume at all the screech comes in and is horrible.
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Jerther: thank you for your work. You have made instructions from a
user's perspective at least, something I didn't have the patience to do.
I know my script was trash since the beginning, just had no patience to
continue the project.
We knew the problem all along, but as I suspected, people
* THE CRACKLING FIX (works for 2/2 people!) *
(Jerther went through the pains to figure the clean-room installation out)
Following the steps exactly, no omissions (last one will reboot your
computer).
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xt-knight/ppa
sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade
I shut the machine down yesterday night. So I turned it on today to do
your tests. Everything was as usual: can't play anything and PA was
still in 5.1 mode. So I tried it in stereo mode. As expected, sound was
okay. Then I switched it back to 5.1 and... you're not gonna believe it:
it worked!
Jerther:
Okay, so you said, without my patch you get full working 5.1 with
crackling, but with my patch you get only left channel with no
crackling, is that correct? I know my patch works with at least two
channels and I suspect it should work with any number, so let's see
what's going on.
Jerther:
Okay, I think there are problems with me installing lirc pulseaudio
packages with lirc not installed, or other things like avahi. I guess I
did not catch this because I had the packages installed. However,
trying it in a clean chroot revealed the issues.
It seems like all that needs
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@xtknight
Just to clear things up, with a clean install of ubuntu, stereo sound is
perfect. however, in 5.1 mode, I hear high pitched rattling sound, just
like this bug reports.
When I install your patch using your script or your PPA in my
source.list, stereo stays fine, but 5.1 gets worst. See
Jerther:
Okay, yup, I have the same exact bug. And yes this fixes it for me with
no side effects. I've been using 5.1 mode for a week or more, in games
that use alsa emulation mode, gstreamer apps, and pretty much
everything, with nary a problem. And there is no buzzing.
Yea as for your
Jerther:
Hmm it's possible your CPU just cannot handle the speed of sound
without the SIMD in there :-) Doubtful though. I don't think sound
volume controls should take 100% CPU. If they do, something's seriously
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Jerther:
Doh, sorry for posting many times. But, I want you to try (with your
current setup) to go back to stereo mode in the control panel and see if
it works once again, after having switched to 5.1. All with my patch in
there. So make sure it is consistently reproducible it is *5.1 mode
@xtKnight
I did a clean install (for the 10th time) 10.04 AMD64
First thing I did was to run your script. The following line appeared
last:
E: main.c: ANDY_FIX: buggy SIMD optimizations disabled.
in your script, you tell to hit ctrl+c. so did I, and the same line
appeared again. then I set the
Jerther:
Very sorry, I don't think this is a direct result of my patch, but
perhaps a side effect of its installation. Are you sure that you cannot
start PulseAudio manually? Also you can re-enable the autostart by
typing the following, as long as you don't have any other options in
that file
@xtknight
your fix didn't work for me.
here's what happends:
W: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
E: main.c: ANDY_FIX: buggy SIMD optimizations disabled.
E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was
actually nothing to write!
E: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this
@Stefan Goldmann
I did what you said in both your post here and in the post you made on another
forum, which are basically the same thing.
I'm sorry to tell that It doesn't work for me. Although, when I move some
sliders in PA applet, nothing moves in alsamixer, which is what we want.
But
You don't need to bypass pulseaudio or rip your entire system apart.
How about just commenting out the block where it says getenv..NO_SIMD...
keyword NO_SIMD
src/daemon/pulseaudio/main.c ln ~877
// fixes cracking/rattling/buzzing sounds with 5.1
/*if (!getenv(PULSE_NO_SIMD)) {
Typo, src/daemon/main.c I mean.
I posted a patch on my PPA. If people are having a problem other than
SIMD, IMO they should post another bug report as it's not the same
problem. Not that I think the problem *I'm* having is king, but then
another report should be made for this one. I don't
@Nate: I'm sorry for that.
No, at the moment I have no idea, but if you like, we can try to
investigate.
What Ubuntu version do you have? (I use 10.04)
What sound card? (I have SB Live Value)
Can you attach?
1. The output of aplay -L and aplay -l (this is a lower case L)
2. A pulseaudio log
Hi folks.
Thanks for all the comments, especially #127 (Daniel) and #143 (Pebas).
As Daniel mentioned in #127, the problem is based in the way newer PA
versions are merging the PA channel volume settings into the physical
channel volume settings. Furthermore, it seems to be unclear, whether
this
@Stefan Goldmann: When I tried this PA became unreponsive, two of my cpu
threads were at 100% and no sound. Reverting the changes brought back
sound. Any ideas? Tried both surround40, surround51 and other
surround**'s.
Wish this bug had a bit more attention.
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Spelling typo: unreponsive - unresponsive
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@Daniel T Chen: If there's a bug in the SIMD code why not just force
PULSE_NO_SIMD, or revert to previous SIMD code, whatever it was before
the issue started (for the Ubuntu package), until the SIMD code is fixed
by PulseAudio?
At least, clearly this is what seemed to be the problem for me. As
What Pebas suggests I guess makes it so the SIMD code isn't hit in the
wrong way as to cause a bug. I would try my hand at it, but it's very
hard to find a bug in someone's code by limiting it down when you have
no experience with the PulseAudio code base or with the x86 variant of
assembly. Is
@Jean-François Fortin Tam
sorry but we're talking about a major bug dragging itself since a consistent
amount of months and two different releases, that no one care of, and see
effort put in lower boot time under 10 seconds as a priority over the correct
functioning of the software.
I think
@Desh Danz: please refrain from comments like this. You are rude and not
helpful. Speaking as a user who's affected by this bug too.
@Jerther: I have perfectly fine surround sound... If I leave all the
speaker sliders to their default values (100% in pavucontrol, or
centered in
Here is a dump from Alsa Information Script. This provided as advice from the
#pulseaudio support channel in irc.freenode.net.
wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh bash
./alsa-info.sh
Output available here:
eh ehhh... as I said, that's just ridiculous...
when I wrote this some time ago someone did even blame my post as flame and
so...
Now that a new release is out I can't but confirm my original
impression: this bug is frankly ridiculous because ridiculous is having
it even in the new release after
@Desh Danz
Thanks for the tip. Although I disagree about KDE being more evolute than
GNOME which is just a plain opinion, I shall give Kubuntu a try for sure
because I'm TIRED of waiting. I bought a brand new system a year ago for a HTPC
and couldn't get 5.1 sound from it yet. I was excited to
Yes I have 5.1 running through mine. The noise starts up if I play
around with the subwoofer tab a bit but if I leave that alone I have
nice sounding 5.1
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The workaround described by Pebas seems to work for me as well. 5.1
works and I don't hear any strange noises. Only thing is that Banshee
now fails to play some songs and hogs the CPU... However, Amarok seems
to work fine so I can't tell whether this is really related to the
workaround. I've
This appears to remove the high pitch rattling for me, but it seems that it
bypasses PA not solve the internal problem. I am still for a solution that
allows PA to stay in place and work effectively thanks Pebas for your help
on this
Darrin
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, JayK jak...@gmail.com
I finally get rid of this annoying sound problem!
After testing a LOT of different configurations, this is what it worked for me:
1) Set profile to Analog Surround 5.1 Output + Analog Stereo Input
2) Replace volume = merge with volume = ignore in *ALL* elements (including
masters sections) of
Graham Clenaghan
excellent, do you wanna suggest, we have to wait another half year to hear 5+1
sound in ubuntu?
sounds good to me:(
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This sucks so bad. I moved to arch on my main machine because of this bug.
(it doesn't push the rubbish that is pulse on you like ubuntu does).
Arch without pulse + 5.1 works perfectly right out of the box. I didn't have
to do a thing. No buzz, no stutter.
Pulseaudio is stupid, just get rid of
that's true. i've just installed new ubuntu 10 and problem still remains.
interesting...
i would get rid of pulseaudio, but I've found out that gnome is so connected
with pulseaudio, that it is impossible for me to use only alsa. since I'm
connected with ubuntu, there is no hope... anybody
Just change distro or something, this is insane.
Why are we focusing on bloody boot speed when we can't get audio working
even marginally decently? I don't get it.
On 2 May 2010 06:51, c...@post.sk wrote:
that's true. i've just installed new ubuntu 10 and problem still remains.
Daniel, thanks for everything.
Is there anything else we can do to help get this moved forward?
Additional hardware profiles? I just did a fresh install of 10.04LTS 64
(with xfi audio). My sound started off muted. Unmuted and switched to
5.1 + mono in and had the same result.
Switching to 2ch
This still happens on Lucid for me, though not as bad as it used to be
on 5.1 (still not worth having the extra speaker over the working 4.0).
If you switch to 4.1 its just as bad.
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@Daniel T. Chen (comment #127, which was quite insightful): have you
discussed with upstream pulseaudio about this? We seem to know the
cause, and we know that it used to work fine in the past, so surely
there must be a solution the pulseaudio project could come up with?
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Problem is still there in lucid with latest updates on
Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
disable-lfe-remixing = yes
isn't help.
What I can try else?
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I think I may have made some progress toward a working config that
significantly reduces this issue in Lucid beta 2 (installed w/ alternate amd64
CD). I have the Intel HDAudio (ICH10) onboard audio chip (:~$ lspci | grep
Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD
Sorry, I meant to include this URL to the forum thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9140938#post9140938
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(lowering importance due to reports of workaround on *some* hardware,
and 5.1 is not the default output configuration)
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Importance: High = Medium
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Okay, it's pretty clear what's happening now. The volumes are being
merged thanks to the configuration in /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-
mixer/paths/analog-output-speaker.conf and /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-
mixer/paths/analog-output.conf, so a slight adjustment using gnome-
media's mixer applet
My pleasure! If you need further help, just ask.
By the way, My hardware is a Sound Blaster Live 5.1 (SB0220) which is
some kind of DELL OEM stuff. It's pretty common and the two I have here
have been donated to me. You can have one on eBay for about 10$USD,
shipped to your mailbox.
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Mine is fixed! I upgraded to Lucid again last week and just did a test
run, set my USB sound card to 5.1, cranked the volume all the way up and
no screeching at allI'm happy to say the least
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I have SB Live 5.1. I use Lucid with latest updates. Adding this line:
enable-lfe-remixing = yes
to /etc/pulse/daemon.conf seems to have fixed the problem for me.
Thanks!
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Pulseaudio is just rubbish. Everything just works without it. They should
just remove it from the stock installation, surround sound would work as it
should if they did that.
On 23 March 2010 10:51, Jerther jert...@herzeleid.net wrote:
** Attachment added: Daniel T Chen, here are the files you
** Attachment removed: gnome volume control
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40317182/gvc.ogv
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It would be nice to have this fixed in lucid…
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I wonder why i m reading about alsa, amixer here. This is a bug report about a
pulseaudio bug and to turn off pulseaudio is no way to solve the problem. It is
just a way to make the system usable again. I would like to help somehow, I m
not a programmer, just a user. If you need some files or
** Attachment added: Daniel T Chen, here are the files you requested, properly
named and with attached description. Hope this helps!!!
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41663133/amixer%20before%20and%20after.zip
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All this situation is, at the least, a bit demotivating... months have
passed by and the bug is still here...
Today I've downloaded the first public beta of Lucid Lynx and after live
booting the cd I've been welcomed at the desktop, with my delight, by
exactly the same issue: setting my sound
Daniel, here are the requested output files of amixer in various
scenarios. I hope this helps more than the flamebaits/trolls.
** Attachment added: amixer before and after.tar
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41549319/amixer%20before%20and%20after.tar
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I was able to stop the ringing in my 5.1 setup by running alsamixer in terminal
and pushing the volume on all channels to 100.
As soon as I fiddle with any volume controls in the Sound preferences window,
the ringing starts again. I control volume on my speakers now and it does not
ring at all.
There appear to be lots of different mixer configurations involved. For
those of you who have had success with slightly adjusting the mixer
controls using alsamixer, please attach *clearly labeled* files for
these two conditions:
1. amixer from after adjusting controls so that the distortion is
Note also that amixer and alsamixer are separate utilities. I'm asking
specifically for 'amixer' output.
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I'm sorry what file(s) do you need exactly? could you also tell the path
to them?
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Jerther, e.g.,
amixer before.txt
amixer after.txt
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I wasn't really able to test it, because g-v-c behaves quit unexpected.
I have attached a Video where you can see what happens.
pulseaudio:
Installed: 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu11
Candidate: 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu11
Version table:
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Please ensure that you can reproduce the symptom under the following
conditions:
1. You're using at least pulseaudio
1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu11;
2. You aren't using flat-volumes (by default you aren't).
Next things to confirm if symptom is reproducible under (1) and (2):
Sorry should have added: I have lost all sound once the desktop is
displayed. The ubu theme sound does not play. However the sound that
plays for log in (squeek tick sound?) does play. So sound is working at
some point.
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Yeah, lucid has made the problem even worse if anything.
On 17 February 2010 03:26, Gus g...@lgze.com wrote:
I have lost all sound now. I'm unsure what happened. It seemed to happen
between reboots so it's possible a patch caused it. I'm debating between
doing a full install of 10.04 alpha 3
I thought I had this licked... but now it's returned.
Worse, the workaround above (export PULSE_NO_SIMD=1 and remove the
~/.pulse folder) now only reduces the problem, which now seems to worsen
over time.
In addition, things that previously caused the problem to abate, like
setting the levels in
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried playing with Lucid Lynx to see if
this bug has been fixed?
I'm tempted to get a new HD for backups and jump in on the Alpha testing
a little earlier this time. ; )
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Yeah I tried Lucid a couple times. The problem was still there and it's
actually gotten worse for me as I no longer even have options for 4.1 or
above (5.1) with my USB sound card, before at least I could just turn it
down to avoid the screetching, now those options are gone
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I have lost all sound now. I'm unsure what happened. It seemed to happen
between reboots so it's possible a patch caused it. I'm debating between
doing a full install of 10.04 alpha 3 in a few days or installing 9.10
in my alt boot partition and then slowly adding patches up to current.
I suspect
Well I take it all back!
I was in the middle of a game of Glest when the sytem crashed and I was not
able to boot into the new kernel even after trying booting off the Ubuntu CD
and doing a Gparted check. I had to boot into 2.6.31 and remove 2.6.32 via
Synaptic. Dang. That was really nice
At least you bring some hope with kernel 2.6.32
thanks for the info, I feel less desperate now ;)
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To: jert...@herzeleid.net
Subject: [Bug 445849] Re: Highpitched Rattling like Sound with 5.1 Surround
Configuration
Well its working now after I updated the Kernel to 2.6.32-020632-generic.
By following this human's tutorial with one twist.
http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/780-upgrade-your-kernel-the-safe-way-in-ubuntu-linuxmint
After I rebooted twice my system hung and would not go on. Despite much
I've got the same problem. Mysterious sounds when changing volume. I'm using
5.1 analog output on Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family). Rear channel
doesn't work too.
I've tried to install some old PCI Creative sound card (SB0460 I guess), and as
someone has already described, noise
UPD: Well, I mean hissing in 5.1. 4.1 works almost fine, but both without rear
speakers.
I have to say almost, because in addition to rear speakers, if I pull balance
slider more then 1/2 from the middle possition then there is this hissing noise
again.
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I have this with a creative xfi on 9.10 64bit. Killing the the .pulse
dir resets the issue and I'm back to normal. However changing volume
seems to be causing it for me. Including setting the volume to max (via
the desktop slider).
I run at 5.1output with mono input. Previously to work around,
Yes, maybe you can move sound to all 5.1 but it won't be surround.
I am really concerned about by 5.1 Creative channels, costs me some money and 3
months no surround using Ubuntu. Maybe should rename this bug to 5.1 for
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Cliff, this is 5.1 bug. AFAIK optic connection is not possilbe at 5.1
(only stereo). Correct me, if I'm wrong.
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Yes, its only possible to use 5.1 via analog connections at this time.
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wrote 2 hours ago: #98
Cliff, this is 5.1 bug. AFAIK optic connection is not possilbe at 5.1
(only stereo). Correct me, if I'm wrong.
I always have my sound card connected to my stereo via Fiber optic.
I thought that and Spdif connections are the only way to get 5.1?
But
Not sure what happened but now I have no sound until I go into sound
Preferences and change from Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output + Analog
Stereo Input to something else then back. If I leave it on Analog Stereo
Output I get sound on startup but lots of popping. Its going out my
digital fiber optic
I have done the following things but all of them doesn't resolve the problem
fully:
- options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N is commented out
in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-conf
- pulseaudio-dev PPA didn't help so i reverted back to the original pulseaudio
packages with apt
I experience the same problem.
Sound Blaster 5.1 SB0220
Works fine in stereo mode
I found a simple fix, but it won't stay if I reboot:
- Install gnome-alsamixer (not sure about the name)
- Barely slide the PCM slider in gnome-alsamixer
here's my complete story
I reported this bug in October but mine got merged with this bug. I had
initialy said it was the gnome volume control and not pulseaudio.
The fact that the noise was tied to the precise position on the volume
slider, and the fact that the slider goes all the way to 150%(!)
(reminds me of spinal
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out on the weekend.
Cheers!
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I tried the suggestions from Murz, but this only fixes my subwoofer, the
noisy highpitched sounds come again when i move the soundslider a little
bit up and down.
my current workaround is using gnome-alsamixer to move every slider to
100% except the master slider, this slider can be used to
I did a test installation of Karmic on another partition and added the
Ubuntu Audio Dev team PPA to get a update to pulseaudio 0.9.21. I was
curious if the problem is fixed in a newer version.
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa
sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
I added
Adding
disable-lfe-remixing = no
fixes problem for me too on Karmic pulseaudio
0.9.21-0ubuntu3~~karmic~ubuntuaudiodev1 alsa-base 1.0.20+dfsg-1ubuntu5
Before this I didn't hear anything from my subwoofer (LFE), like in 5.0
configuration. When I change pulseaudio to anything else (2.0) and back
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Murz wrote:
Adding
disable-lfe-remixing = no
fixes problem for me too on Karmic pulseaudio
Unfortunately this approach can't be used by default (i.e., we can't
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I hope so. There was a major bug with the display of Mythtv in Jaunty that was
never fixed.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/mesa/+bug/341898
As a result, my HTPC hasn't been fully functional since Intrepid. I'm
starting to wonder if the six month release cycle is becoming a
6 months is way short. It annoys me because by the time the planning and
summits and stuff are over they have less than 4 months until everything
must stop development and prepare for launch. It makes things really
inefficient. I mean really, is one year really that long? Or even a rolling
release
I hate to whine, but is anyone actually looking into this or has it been
abandoned?
I'm currently running Jaunty and Karmic and I'd like to wipe one of them
to free up the hard drive.
Cheers!
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Highpitched Rattling like Sound with 5.1 Surround Configuration on Karmic Koala
I think that it being confirmed and high means it's being looked into, I
don't think we can expect developers to give weekly updates. My guess is
a lot of time is being put into this issue
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Highpitched Rattling like Sound with 5.1 Surround Configuration on Karmic Koala
I hope so. We have such a crappy sound stack.
2010/1/2 Jmadero jmad...@usa.com
I think that it being confirmed and high means it's being looked into, I
don't think we can expect developers to give weekly updates. My guess is
a lot of time is being put into this issue
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Highpitched
I presume this symptom is reproducible with 0.9.20 from the
ubuntu-audio-dev PPA (or by using Lucid)?
Sorry for taking so long.
I installed pulseaudio 0.9.21-0ubuntu3~~karmic~ubuntuaudiodev1 ( deps)
from the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA. No change, still hissing.
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Highpitched Rattling like Sound
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