[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-10-01 Thread Colin Watson
This is fixed in Intrepid; there's now a server seed containing ubuntu- serverguide, and it's installed by default. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-09-10 Thread Matthew East
Closing the ubuntu-docs task, as this bug needs to be fixed in ubuntu- meta. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-09-10 Thread Matthew East
Closing the ubuntu-docs task, as this bug needs to be fixed in ubuntu- meta. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-09-01 Thread Matthew East
Reopening this bug, as per Steve's comment at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu- docs/+bug/45944/comments/36 it should be possible to seed ubuntu- serverguide for intrepid now that there is a server seed. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-09-01 Thread Matthew East
Reopening this bug, as per Steve's comment at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu- docs/+bug/45944/comments/36 it should be possible to seed ubuntu- serverguide for intrepid now that there is a server seed. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-18 Thread Adam Sommer
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there's discussion of having a base server seed for other reasons (c.f. recent discussion of w3m on the ubuntu-devel list), in which case it's probably worth getting the Ubuntu Server Guide seeded there?

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-18 Thread Nick Barcet
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:49:31 - Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there's discussion of having a base server seed for other reasons (c.f. recent discussion of w3m on the ubuntu-devel list), in which case it's probably worth getting the Ubuntu Server Guide seeded there? That

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-18 Thread Nick Barcet
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:49:31 - Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there's discussion of having a base server seed for other reasons (c.f. recent discussion of w3m on the ubuntu-devel list), in which case it's probably worth getting the Ubuntu Server Guide seeded there? That

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-18 Thread Adam Sommer
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there's discussion of having a base server seed for other reasons (c.f. recent discussion of w3m on the ubuntu-devel list), in which case it's probably worth getting the Ubuntu Server Guide seeded there?

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Langasek
It seems there's discussion of having a base server seed for other reasons (c.f. recent discussion of w3m on the ubuntu-devel list), in which case it's probably worth getting the Ubuntu Server Guide seeded there? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-16 Thread Jonathan Jesse
We can mark as fix release correct for the Ubuntu doc side of things? THanks, Jonathan -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber. --

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-06-16 Thread Jonathan Jesse
We can mark as fix release correct for the Ubuntu doc side of things? THanks, Jonathan -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. --

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-05-08 Thread Mads Peter Rommedahl
Pushing for a conclusion...? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-05-08 Thread Mads Peter Rommedahl
Pushing for a conclusion...? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
The patch for 159371 has been uploaded, so I believe this bug should now be considered resolved (or at least as resolved as it's going to get for hardy). ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-27 Thread Martijn Heemels
That seems reasonable enough. Since we apparently can't distinguish the server version from the desktop version this general message is a reasonable pointer to the relevant docs. This does not resolve the issue of the guide not being available to people experiencing problems with their network

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Langasek
Another option would be to add details on how to install the local package and view it in the motd. I'd rather opt for this option. That seems to be bug #159371, then. Does the patch at the end of that bug address this issue to everyone's satisfaction? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Steve Langasek (vorlon) -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. --

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Langasek
Another option would be to add details on how to install the local package and view it in the motd. I'd rather opt for this option. That seems to be bug #159371, then. Does the patch at the end of that bug address this issue to everyone's satisfaction? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-26 Thread Mathias Gug
Works for me. -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-03-02 Thread Matthew East
** Tags added: serverguide -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-22 Thread Matthew East
Hi, On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Adam Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, For me the deciding factor is, will the documentation on the web site be updated on launch day? From experience it will take at least some time, although we might be better organised than previous releases,

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-22 Thread Mathias Gug
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 08:10:13AM -, Matthew East wrote: If it will take some time before the site is updated than I think the package should be installed by default and the motd updated with instructions on viewing the local docs. Another option would be to add details on how to

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Matthew East
I may be a bit slow, but what is the Ubuntu Server Edition? I see there is a separate cd for -server on releases.ubuntu.com - there is no way to control what packages are in that? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Mads Peter Rommedahl
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition is Ubuntu Server Edition -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Matthew East
Hi, On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Mads Peter Rommedahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition is Ubuntu Server Edition Yes, I was aware of that! That's not quite what I meant by my question - please read it in context with previous comments. --

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Matthew East
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of now, the ubuntu-server cd is setup to install the packages from the ubuntu-standard seed. So the server install can be viewed as a subset of the desktop install. Packages that are shipped by the server cd are defined

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Mathias Gug
As of now, the ubuntu-server cd is setup to install the packages from the ubuntu-standard seed. So the server install can be viewed as a subset of the desktop install. Packages that are shipped by the server cd are defined with the server-ship seed. So there are packages on the server cd that are

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-21 Thread Adam Sommer
Hello, For me the deciding factor is, will the documentation on the web site be updated on launch day? If it will take some time before the site is updated than I think the package should be installed by default and the motd updated with instructions on viewing the local docs. Personally I look

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew East
Triaging and milestoning ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium Status: New = Confirmed Target: None = ubuntu-8.04 -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-20 Thread Mathias Gug
There isn't any ubuntu-server seed. Installing the serverguide package by default would require the creation of an specific seed, just to install one package. It would also go against the principle to install a minimal set of packages for ubuntu-server. The serverguide package is not required on

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-16 Thread Matthew East
I'll add ubuntu-meta to the bug tasks, as that package provides the seeds as far as I know. -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. --

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2008-02-16 Thread Matthew East
Is ubuntu-serverguide seeded yet in the standard ubuntu-server install? ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-07 Thread Mathias Gug
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:13:34PM -, Nicolas Valcárcel wrote: add by hand the packages they want, and IMHO i will be very disappointed of ubuntu if the minimal installation includes such things as lynx or w3m. The ubuntu-standard seed has the w3m text browser. Thus the default install of

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Mathias Gug
Reopening. For gutsy, the ubuntu-serverguide is on the server cd but not installed by default. We'd probably need to modify the server cd seed. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Triaged -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Matthew East
Was it removed for a reason? -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Mathias Gug
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 07:37:19PM -, Matthew East wrote: Was it removed for a reason? I don't know. I'm not sure that the server guide was added to the default installation. It was added to the server cd in February

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
Interesting. It isn't clear to me that there is a single tasksel option that is shared by all server installs. The ubuntu-seeds STRUCTURE file has the server-ship seed (for what gets on the cd I guess) and then stuff like lamp-server and dns-server for specific tasks. I guess we could use a

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Nicolas Valcárcel
If we want to follow links, info is the correct way i think -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
ubuntu-serverguide should probably also depend on a textual browser, like w3m or lynx, rather than firefox. lynx seems to offer more obvious help than w3m, though it is optional while w3m is standard, so I'm curious about that. And I don't know which does a better job with multiple languages.

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
Hmmm. Yeah. Server admins may be nervous about network clients like lynx and w3m on their machines. Info doesn't (yet? :-) seem to have those risks, and has nice help at the top of the screen, and an index of local help topics. It can also dump info to plain text, and it is really small. And

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Nicolas Valcárcel
If it's included by default it MUST be in plain text format, because most of the server-admins prefer to use minimal installations and then add by hand the packages they want, and IMHO i will be very disappointed of ubuntu if the minimal installation includes such things as lynx or w3m. --

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-11-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
On the other hand, it isn't clear how well the texinfo format and info command handle multiple languages and translations. -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45944 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-02-28 Thread Matthew East
The ubuntu-serverguide package is now in the repositories and has been seeded for server installations for Feisty. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers https://launchpad.net/bugs/45944 -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 45944] Re: Ubuntu Server Guide Not Installed On Servers

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew East
Subscribing ubuntu-server team - what do you think guys? If we supply you with the Ubuntu Server Guide[1] in html form, are you able to whip up a package to ship it by default with servers? [1] Current draft at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)